PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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You are presuming these people actually have ethics, they'd justify by saying they had to prevent a marxist getting into no 10.

calzino, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:52 (four years ago) link

Jettisoning strongly held principles has never stopped them before. I can imagine the scenario, post-Brexit, for the good of the country, we can be a moderating force etc, the same shite they came out with before.

How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link

xxp, referring to this (original tweet now deleted)

https://www.socialistparty.org.uk/pic/medium/23/23957.jpg

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link

Yes, Corbyn and McDonnell are the real enemy.

How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link

Charlie is a long time dead.

How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link

what principles and incentives would come into play if the lib dems were offered a second ref to go into coalition w the tories

ogmor, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link

no principles, just massive negative incentives

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link

if they saw that despite the most heinous shit they cld still get back into govt then i'm not clear what the incentives wld be

ogmor, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:03 (four years ago) link

being a junior partner in a coalition is supposed to be a stepping stone to actually winning, they have found out that it's actually a step off a cliff, they have had their faces rubbed in this point quite effectively

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:07 (four years ago) link

still better to have one foot in the game rather than being a nothing party again? these are pols, they love playing the game even if it does betray their own voters or could be damaging for their party.

calzino, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link

if they get into coalition again then the cliff clearly is not so important. the combination of the desperation that comes with knowing they are a generation or more off winning a GE and their becoming almost a single issue party makes them p dangerous

ogmor, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link

come back Charlie, all is forgiven. I swear I take back anything unkind I ever said about him 10 years ago, he seems like a giant next to these minnows.

calzino, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:15 (four years ago) link

but yes, the majority of the plastic waste in the oceans is generated by the fishing industry.

A pedant writes: I believe it's actually the largest percentage of plastic waste (46%). The other 54% is those blue plastic bags that market traders try and foist on you. Those fuckers take 1000 years to rot (and the plastic bags even longer, boom!).

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link

still better to have one foot in the game rather than being a nothing party again?

but from what I can tell right now the only reason any fucker would vote LibDem right now is to stop brexit, or at least I can't imagine many voting LibDem and being ok with that not happening - not saying the party wouldn't be short sighted enough to go for it anyway but it feels super stupid on a tactical level, principles needn't come into it

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link

it seems a very bad move for the one-issue stop brexit party to not rule out a coalition with the hard right no deal brexit party. fuck knows what goes on their minds.

xp
What is needed is a huge trebuchet with the power to catapult all our plastic garbage (+ zombie market traders + libdems) into space. or just ban the plastic ffs!

calzino, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:46 (four years ago) link

the hated Eurocrats of the EU were making progress on that very issue, of course

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link

my experience of the plastic bags thing is that people now just treat the thicker bags-for-life as disposible (and, half the time, don't pay the 10p for them)

also, i've noticed sainsburys security staff now wear body cameras.

koogs, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link

Apparently Shaved Garfield's profile needs reboosting again a week into a Johnson government how curious

On @BBCr4today tomorrow extended interview with #SteveBannon - recorded at border wall in New Mexico - we discuss the wall, @BorisJohnson, @realDonaldTrump language on race, 2020. pic.twitter.com/O1Inl9pfkm

— Jon Sopel (@BBCJonSopel) July 30, 2019

nashwan, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link

The ban on plastic straws has had no effect whatsoever except for victimising disabled people and giving various decision-makers the incorrect satisfaction that they are doing something to help the environment.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:51 (four years ago) link

motherfucking OTM!

calzino, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:52 (four years ago) link

i mean you say that like it's not the entire point xp

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:54 (four years ago) link

I'd love to know how many of these smug green pols walk it like they talk it. i bet they've clocked up some air miles between themselves. There is something that really flares me up about gestural policies that are not making the slightest dint on the problem and often they cost the most to the poorest or the disabled, who generally aren't in the frequent flyers club.

calzino, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 11:02 (four years ago) link

I mean flying + plastic pollution are 2 separate issues, but i think the straw ban needs to be lifted for disabled people.

calzino, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

like with NDB prepping there will disabled ppl stockpiling plastic straws in the largest quantities they can afford till 2020. and it isn't because they don't gaf the environment.

calzino, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link

relax, the free market will find a suitable solution

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 11:14 (four years ago) link

go for it, you deliveroo using freedom fighters!

calzino, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link

Going into coalition with a Johnson government would destroy the LibDems' electorally for such a long time it would be impossible to imagine them coming back in any significant way. You'd think they be smart enough to rule it out on grounds of self-preservation if nothing else.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 11:23 (four years ago) link

"the combination of the desperation that comes with knowing they are a generation or more off winning a GE and their becoming almost a single issue party makes them p dangerous"

ogmor otm

calzino, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 11:27 (four years ago) link

thE PArTy oF FisCAl ReSPoNsiBiLiTy

The huge cost of a no-deal Brexit was laid bare on Wednesday as the government announced plans to set aside an extra £2.1bn for preparations including stockpiling of medicines, an extra 500 border officials and a public awareness campaign about disruption.

Boris Johnson is ramping up the funding for a no-deal Brexit on 31 October though he claims that reaching a deal with the EU is his preference.

The move, announced by Sajid Javid, the chancellor, is designed to show Brussels that the UK is ready and willing to countenance leaving without a deal in three months’ time.

Javid will provide a new immediate cash boost of £1.1bn and make a further £1bn available if necessary, taking the total allocation of spending this year alone up to £6.3bn.

From that cash injection about £344m will go to border operations; another 500 officers will be added to the 500 already promised this year. The aim is to improve processing of passport applications, increase training for customs staff to help businesses with declarations, and improve readiness for transport disruption around Kent ports.

Another £434m will go towards ensuring continuity of vital medicines and medical products, covering freight capacity, warehousing and stockpiling, while £108m will be spent on helping businesses understand the challenges they face.

Around £138m is allocated to a new public awareness campaign involving advertising, consular help for Brits living abroad and support for local areas, including Northern Ireland.

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 August 2019 08:35 (four years ago) link

coolcool how's Trident going

nashwan, Thursday, 1 August 2019 08:40 (four years ago) link

spaffffffffffffffff

im led by donky (||||||||), Thursday, 1 August 2019 08:40 (four years ago) link

the magic money tree is fucking great, if only there was some way to spend that money on raising people out of poverty or building affordable homes or providing free public transport or fighting climate change or

professor steve gogurt (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 August 2019 08:41 (four years ago) link

it's ok, odds are a million to one against.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 August 2019 08:53 (four years ago) link

"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one," he said.
"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one - but still they come!"

professor steve gogurt (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 August 2019 08:55 (four years ago) link

I mean if you're in the European pharmaceutical sector I guess this is a bonanza but otherwise fuuuuuuuuck.

Is this straight out of the Thatcher Miner's Strike playbook? Stockpile everything in the hope that most people don't feel any effects of what's happening? I mean it's not going to work because it's about a million times more complex than ensuring you have loads of coal.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 August 2019 09:06 (four years ago) link

normal brain: just destroying all this good lamb will be bad when the need for foodbanks is accelerating
galaxy brain: repurpose the jubilee hilltops beacon system to bring the nation together in a one-off barbecue lamb kebab feast!
cosmic brain: then proceed to wickerman-style ppl-kebab barbecue to propitiate the climate gods and pare down the gold top hats…

mark s, Thursday, 1 August 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link

"Yorkshireday" is a Richard Curtis film about a man who wakes up after an accident and realises he is the only person in the world who remembers Shed Seven.

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) August 1, 2019

obviously this doesn't exactly give him a back catalogue equivalent to the Beatles, but he thinks laterally and makes a respectable career as a journalist touring unpleasant towns and talking to the locals about racism.

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) August 1, 2019

mark s, Thursday, 1 August 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link

i'm on record as being fully in the tank for post-brexit cannibalism so i'm on board with this 100% xp

professor steve gogurt (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 August 2019 09:52 (four years ago) link

xp lmao, that's perfect

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 August 2019 09:56 (four years ago) link

to celebrate Yorkshire Day I've been burning some garden waste and sneaking loads of toxic polymers, plastics and polystyrene in there and flooding my neighbours with carcinogenic black smoke. Happy fuck off die day from me!

calzino, Thursday, 1 August 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link

imago...otm?

― gyac, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Revisit this please.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 August 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link

The move, announced by Sajid Javid, the chancellor, is designed to show Brussels that the UK is ready and willing to countenance leaving without a deal in three months’ time.

Javid: we’re spending £2.1 billion on an advertising campaign to show Europe how hard we’ve decided to punch ourself in the balls if they keep being polite to us

Europe: ...well, at least you’re not wasting this time.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 1 August 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link

xp

it's sorted. tactically voting for the LibDems is not otm

calzino, Thursday, 1 August 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link

👍

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 August 2019 10:20 (four years ago) link

It's a "boost", a "turbo charge", it's "getting things done". It may be bollocks (it is) but our craven press love having their copy written for them.

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 1 August 2019 10:22 (four years ago) link

ministers trailing an early october emergency ND budget ? where’s that thread about cummings strategy on getting parl to vote down a budget as a show of no confidence before parlaying that into a election ?

im led by donky (||||||||), Thursday, 1 August 2019 10:40 (four years ago) link

a meme template in the making

Party Chairman @JamesCleverly with the ⏰

✍ We will deliver Brexit by October 31st.

Back @BorisJohnson's pledge here: https://t.co/ZkcKvLONpm pic.twitter.com/aFF4Kfcav3

— Conservatives (@Conservatives) July 31, 2019

professor steve gogurt (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 August 2019 11:47 (four years ago) link

Well there's no way that's going to get embarrassing.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link

Luv 2 see daily countdowns to my 39th birthday, cheers Brexit

help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link


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