My copy of the Tonta hardcover arrived. The material is drawn from a few issues of New Stories (#5-6); but it sure looks good printed all big and stuff.
― the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 00:42 (six months ago) link
this really had me thinking about beto's b-movie bookshttps://hyperallergic.com/511754/la-flor-mariano-llinas/
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 2 August 2019 15:15 (six months ago) link
The Tonta book is good, I recommend it as a one-off, especially for folks who haven't been following the series closely (it stands on its own, and Jaime's "main" characters don't even appear, so you won't be stressed about continuity/catch-up). The story has a lightness and wit that have been absent in the recent tales of the Locas crew.
That said, there is some timeline weirdness here (which devoted readers will notice) -- a flashback at the end retroactively & roughly nails down the age of a few characters, making them "too young" to have been the adults they were when they first appeared in the early 2000s. This funkiness is clearly a byproduct of telling an ongoing story in small installments over many years; I'm sure Jaime could avoid it if he cared, but artistic license rightly takes precedent.
― 60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Friday, 9 August 2019 20:20 (six months ago) link
yeah, I was really impressed at how well the Tonta book held together as a single story. the one thing that didn't play was the trial taking place in a few seconds' reading, instead of being spaced out amidst other stories, but oh well.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 9 August 2019 20:25 (six months ago) link
I agree the ending is kind of abrupt.
Btw, I realized you can fudge the timeline if you pretend the story takes place several years before publication -- it can't be set any earlier than 2008, as one plot point involves a Twilight movie in theaters. But I think it was probably supposed to be set in 2012, when Jaime started writing it, and when the last of those movies came out... and that late date is def. incompatible with Vivian's age. I know this doesn't matter at all.
― 60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Friday, 9 August 2019 20:31 (six months ago) link
Getting super forensic (sorry) -- the only Twilight movie released in the summertime (the story's setting) was Part 3, in 2010... I'm gonna satisfy myself by calculating that puts the flashback around 1996, which is just far back enough for Viv to have been a (very) young adult when Maggie & Ray meet her in 2001. I don't know how this timing works with Angel's post-Ti Girls storyline (her move to Texas, then back to CA), but I'm not gonna worry about it.
― 60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Friday, 9 August 2019 21:03 (six months ago) link
My books are all in another hemisphere so I can't read back & check, but are you just judging by Vivian? could it be that she was a bratty 19-year-old with a body that clouds men's minds in her first appearances, and is a bratty 31-year-old with etc etc in Tonta?
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 9 August 2019 21:12 (six months ago) link
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 9 August 2019 21:13 (six months ago) link
haha, yeah -- I mean she *could* have been 19 back then, but it seemed like she had been on the scene a little longer than that, based on her personal history (she had dated that comic-book guy Vartan at some point in the past, etc.). But at this point, we've winnowed it down to where I'm just splitting hairs over a few years.
― 60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Friday, 9 August 2019 21:17 (six months ago) link
Apparently this is an hour-long video interview w/Jaime; I may try to listen while I work later today:https://www.comicsbeat.com/graphic-novel-club-jaime-hernandez-explores-the-cultural-inspirations-behind-tonta/
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:09 (four months ago) link
Sweet! Gonna watch sinecright now.
I really enjoyed this recent interview with Ed Piskor about Jaime's early days.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:24 (four months ago) link