"Notability " in Wikipedia tems

lol wtf is this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambient_pop

Ambient pop employs the lock-groove melodies of Krautrock as an influence

Huh?

i sometimes want to cry about the quality of music articles on wikipedia

I'm mad about this today, thinking about why almost none of the musicians who are 'big' in my world have wiki pages, and after a friend's band (who regularly tours internationally, have had music in tv shows like Fargo, and have been around for 25 years) got their wiki taken down for not having enough or appropriate notability citations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles

Given the state of arts coverage these days, it's increasingly hard to come by reviews (especially concert reviews) that aren't related to promo somehow. Especially for independent artists not on "one of the more important indie labels". And a lot of legit coverage is behind paywalls nowadays.

Given the amount of minutiae on wikipedia, their criteria for music seems weirdly stringent. It could be this great resource for cataloging independent music, better than Discogs or social media, but instead it's a giant gap for the most part. Also seems lame in comparison to every single tv show, movie, and actor automatically being notable by comparison.

this topic is of great interest to me

also,

https://www.salon.com/2013/05/17/revenge_ego_and_the_corruption_of_wikipedia/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_one_cares_about_your_garage_band

SCATHINg

Lol. I know I posted about this just upthread, but it's still annoying -- "going on a real tour" and "making money" are becoming less and less common. And apparently being on big-ish indie labels and getting actual reviews isn't necessarily enough to warrant a wiki page (thinking about say producers that have put records out on Hyperdub and get reviewed in Resident Advisor, or whatever).

In a time when album credits aren't available many places it would be nice if wikipedia was more accessible for music.

Wikipedia notability vs. Twitter Verified notability - FITE!

Wikipedia bullies! Poor street musician "no one cares about"
- people who hear him care!

I was pleased to learn of https://deletionpedia.org/en/Main_Page

Who decides what culture is important! Who!? SHow me the credentials that govern this! Show me the shining badges of these culture cops!