PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

re AS and OJ: the sense of drift is i think as much as anything bcz (stubbornly! and perhaps correctly!)* lab comms still has has a low opjnion of the value and efficacy of first response (and is somewhat ideologically leery of it). which means over the long haul that labour's semi-freelance mainstream first responders, feeling they've been left to drift (they have!) and with their time not filled by the leadership handing on messages to process and deliver, begin to interpret their own specific unmooredness as a general unmooredness

*i still think there is a price to be paid for this now very firmly hewn-to line, that time and energy spent winning the day is time wasted, and this is part of that price. they are sensing drift bcz they are drifting, and they are drifting bcz they are not being steered…

"Isn't he constantly touring around the country?"

From my reading of Ogmor's posts Momentum is onwards, I don't get the feeling of conflict. So if OJ is travelling around the country why am I not seeing more of a mixed picture? Also it does seem to be a focus on young activists and the base isn't just that one demographic? xps

xp See, I wasn't sure what your previous post meant - to clarify, it's that she has a responsibility to represent what is going on in the Corbyn base with accuracy, and that you have determined that she's not?

― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 26 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

She has written before this on the need to back another vote. Then she goes out to the protest, sees a lack of enthusiasm and goes from there. Then Owen writes this a few hours later. Has she talked to activists in other regions? Labour leave isn't in London.

Is there much of a Labour Leave/Momentum crossover? Is there a reason why morale would be high among Labour Leave given the current Brexit position? Is morale within the Labour left higher in the North of England right now? Serious questions.

Looking at this they should be more concerned about Scotland right now: http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground/targets/labour

And looking at this the Midlands is the real concern for them, defensively: http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground/targets/conservative

How popular is a Boris government likely to be in Midlands marginals, particularly those with big Asian populations?

At least we are moving away from London Wednesday night now.

@TonyParsonsUK
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In the Seventies, we made our own fun. One summer, we found a piece of rope. It was bloody great.

Didn't embed because the tweet includes an old photo of him in his pants you're welcome

(gyac this is how you do it)

thought this was an interesting thread

1/ I've done this before but on a day like today it's worth remembering the striking difference in the way the EU and UK see the backstop. From the Brussels furnace, based on convos with officials/diplomats, the EU perspective (not advocating either way just reporting as ever).

— Nick Gutteridge (@nick_gutteridge) July 25, 2019

Have the chants started in Parliament yet to send Boris Johnson back to the "crime infested shithole" he came from? (i.e., Manhattan's Upper East Side)

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) July 26, 2019

poll

ITV News exclusive: @Jacob_Rees_Mogg issues new style guide to his staff demanding male MPs are called Esq, the use of imperial measurements and which words are banned (but not 'not fit for purpose'), reports @PaulBrandITV https://t.co/0LNgWW9Bxj pic.twitter.com/re6fQmqyz2

— ITV News (@itvnews) July 26, 2019

two spaces after a full-stop. didn't think this cunt could get any worse

all top-hats must be at least 40% saturated with mercury compounds

Fascinating stress-test going on about what parts of Cameron’s approach were and weren’t necessary here. https://t.co/dEURsBorom

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) July 26, 2019

"no comma after and"

who was doing this anyway?

that's the oxford comma. i assume he's reluctant to call it by its name because he thinks it reflects poorly on oxford.

my impression is that although momentum is attractive to lexiters, bennites, ppl w/ grudges against their CLPs, and various older ppl that like to bloviate in meetings while calling ppl comrade, they are not generally at the centre of things and momentum have done a good job at organising locally and broadening their base. I have been surprised by how many of those old left ppl are generally abt tho, I think they're often underestimated.

I think a lot of labour leavers are not that hardcore, mb even a majority are soft lexiters who don't like the EU or remainer discourse but don't as an overwhelming priority, even if they might think it's an obviously opportune moment to leave & be annoyed on democratic grounds etc.

but yes it's very difficult for labour when the constituencies that will decide the election include a lot of scottish ones and some of the most strongly leave english ones

xp. oxford comma is before and!

is it like “and, as if that weren’t bad enough,”

double space after full stops? mogg is a savage

xp. aah. that sounds right

I’ll wait for the gold top hats among us to confirm

I was hoping we weren't going to give this tedious piece of Rees-Mogg personal brand building the oxygen it doesn't deserve.

you must be new to ilx

for matt:

pic.twitter.com/XpnCrNYj67

— Ed Jefferson (@edjeff) July 26, 2019

Andrew Gilligan appointed as transport advisor. Partisan attack dog journalism pays off.

Some big boots for the boy to fill there:p

I was thinking he was stepping into Grayling's job, but no it seems.

I bet JRM doesn't know the word "esquire" is one of the few words of Basque origin in the English language. The fucking newish money ignorant prick, hope he dies soon!

would've thought that would be latin etymology

The learned fellow I got this off was quite surprised as well.

gold-topped dril comma or, gtfo

the correct response to "double space after fullstops" is BIGGER THAN BEFORE

Since when is ‘fullstops’ a compound word? Floreat Etona, Jacob.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/243337?fbclid=IwAR2Flmh0wE_Z1N4RelPfWgiMJa8Rqson3hQgwXTwqDNttm-GQ11PPyblzQo

it probably won't make a shit of difference, but it might be worth signing this Jodey Whiting inquest petition. She commit suicide 15 days after her benefits were stopped because during a pneumonia spell in hospital a letter for a capability assessment was sent to her that she was never aware of. The petition is only being backed by Mind. Most the other toothless disability charities (including NAS calmly posting as they usually do) are congratulating the conservative government for apologising for her death and giving her mum 10 grand and are not backing an inquest into this repulsive travesty. Most of these charities proudly wear golden top-hats btw

thought this was an interesting thread

Nick Gutteridge
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1/ I've done this before but on a day like today it's worth remembering the striking difference in the way the EU and UK see the backstop. From the Brussels furnace, based on convos with officials/diplomats, the EU perspective (not advocating either way just reporting as ever).

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― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:23 (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

informative but I'm presuming that he felt that stating "safeguards the GFA" would have been redundant

Suzy is right -- 'full stop' should be written as two separate words.

"fools' stop" if it's followed by two spaces

when you are a posh tryhard grammar pedant it doesn't matter if you are wrong. Just like it doesn't matter that because of class deference you can merrily paint castles in the sky like how foodbanks are very positive + uplifing examples of state paternalism and Great Britain has always been 100% food self-sufficient because of our great farmers and genius advances in agriscience .. and nobody tells you to stfu and quit shit-talking or even interrupts you.

Foodbanks or food banks, what say you, Mr. Rees-Mogg?

Meanwhile Cummings apptly intends Brexit even if election is happening. No Deal was much too soft, let’s No Deal while we’re in purdah and don’t have a government

Am told by a senior No10 source, idea of an election before 31/10 for a ‘mandate’ was “eliminated” by Dominic Cummings in his first meeting this spads and key official last night

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— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) July 27, 2019

I can't remember the option to have an unelected right wing dictatorship on the EU referendum ballot.

> idea of an election before 31/10 for a ‘mandate’ was “eliminated” by Dominic Cummings

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-calls-election-times-she-said-there-would-be-no-snap-election-a7688471.html

Xp "Leave the European Union"

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/3B97/production/_105055251_051413932-1.jpg

chatting with a friend last night whose job has brought him into contact with some of these malignant cretins:

Sajid Javid: “Really not very nice. Also left himself logged into his twitter account on my laptop”
Nick Timothy: “Horrible man. Literally no one liked him. Even not very nice people didn’t like him.”

Who'd have thought it?

Wow your friend wasted one hell of an opportunity with the Saj.

I was listening to AQ last night and noticed Geoffrey Cox has a completely ridiculous voice. If you were going to do a pisstake of a classic arrogant tory blowhard you'd do deep booming pompous foghorn like how he speaks. Like every line he speaks is a contemptuous admonishment to some pleb, which is probably how he sees most people tbf.

i know! he did recognise that. but we were more just incredulous at the complacent stupidity - i mean who doesn’t log themselves out of social media on even public computers let alone someone else’s, and as a politician?! come on.

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What are 'spads'? CHECK your work!