PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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Isn't he constantly touring around the country? As I've mentioned before he's a weathervane but the idea that he hasn't spoken to Momentum activists across the country doesn't strike me as accurate.

Matt DC, Friday, 26 July 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

Tactical voting at its finest pic.twitter.com/gYJDmdcNSU

— RopesToInfinity (@RopesToInfinity) July 26, 2019

gyac, Friday, 26 July 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

The amount of shite OJ gets itt, while mainstream commentators skate by pumping this poison out, never ceases to amaze me.

There is no more racially divisive force in UK politics than Corbynism. It is more dangerous now than the NF or the BNP or the EDL.

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) July 26, 2019



I see @DPJHodges is trending because of this tweet. Why? Because the anti-Semitic defenders of Jeremy Corbyn are all piling on. The truth is that the NF, BNP & EDL never came within a million miles of power, while Corbyn could be our next Prime Minister. That’s why it matters. https://t.co/2zd1m9MjDP

— Julia Hartley-Brewer (@JuliaHB1) July 26, 2019

gyac, Friday, 26 July 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

Like, fuck’s sake, why is this clown still employed? He’s clearly useful to someone.

The Corbynites want Asian people to be too afraid to enter the cabinet room. What's your view on that.

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) July 26, 2019

gyac, Friday, 26 July 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

Every so often I remember that Dan Hodges designed a Falklands War-themed board game for one player that takes four hours to play and I just feel such overwhelming happiness.

Matt DC, Friday, 26 July 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

the usefulness of hodges is to signal to daily mail readers that the "former left" are now staunchly with the right: it's affirmation of a well established constituency prejudice (as the JHB response demonstrates)

mark s, Friday, 26 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

a red rag always useful too

ogmor, Friday, 26 July 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

re AS and OJ: the sense of drift is i think as much as anything bcz (stubbornly! and perhaps correctly!)* lab comms still has has a low opjnion of the value and efficacy of first response (and is somewhat ideologically leery of it). which means over the long haul that labour's semi-freelance mainstream first responders, feeling they've been left to drift (they have!) and with their time not filled by the leadership handing on messages to process and deliver, begin to interpret their own specific unmooredness as a general unmooredness

*i still think there is a price to be paid for this now very firmly hewn-to line, that time and energy spent winning the day is time wasted, and this is part of that price. they are sensing drift bcz they are drifting, and they are drifting bcz they are not being steered…

mark s, Friday, 26 July 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

"Isn't he constantly touring around the country?"

From my reading of Ogmor's posts Momentum is onwards, I don't get the feeling of conflict. So if OJ is travelling around the country why am I not seeing more of a mixed picture? Also it does seem to be a focus on young activists and the base isn't just that one demographic? xps

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 July 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link

xp See, I wasn't sure what your previous post meant - to clarify, it's that she has a responsibility to represent what is going on in the Corbyn base with accuracy, and that you have determined that she's not?

― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 26 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

She has written before this on the need to back another vote. Then she goes out to the protest, sees a lack of enthusiasm and goes from there. Then Owen writes this a few hours later. Has she talked to activists in other regions? Labour leave isn't in London.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

Is there much of a Labour Leave/Momentum crossover? Is there a reason why morale would be high among Labour Leave given the current Brexit position? Is morale within the Labour left higher in the North of England right now? Serious questions.

Looking at this they should be more concerned about Scotland right now: http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground/targets/labour

And looking at this the Midlands is the real concern for them, defensively: http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground/targets/conservative

How popular is a Boris government likely to be in Midlands marginals, particularly those with big Asian populations?

Matt DC, Friday, 26 July 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link

At least we are moving away from London Wednesday night now.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 July 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

@TonyParsonsUK
5h5 hours ago
In the Seventies, we made our own fun. One summer, we found a piece of rope. It was bloody great.

Didn't embed because the tweet includes an old photo of him in his pants you're welcome

nashwan, Friday, 26 July 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

(gyac this is how you do it)

nashwan, Friday, 26 July 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

thought this was an interesting thread

1/ I've done this before but on a day like today it's worth remembering the striking difference in the way the EU and UK see the backstop. From the Brussels furnace, based on convos with officials/diplomats, the EU perspective (not advocating either way just reporting as ever).

— Nick Gutteridge (@nick_gutteridge) July 25, 2019

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

Have the chants started in Parliament yet to send Boris Johnson back to the "crime infested shithole" he came from? (i.e., Manhattan's Upper East Side)

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) July 26, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

poll

ITV News exclusive: @Jacob_Rees_Mogg issues new style guide to his staff demanding male MPs are called Esq, the use of imperial measurements and which words are banned (but not 'not fit for purpose'), reports @PaulBrandITV https://t.co/0LNgWW9Bxj pic.twitter.com/re6fQmqyz2

— ITV News (@itvnews) July 26, 2019

im led by donky (||||||||), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

two spaces after a full-stop. didn't think this cunt could get any worse

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

all top-hats must be at least 40% saturated with mercury compounds

calzino, Friday, 26 July 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

Fascinating stress-test going on about what parts of Cameron’s approach were and weren’t necessary here. https://t.co/dEURsBorom

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) July 26, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

"no comma after and"

who was doing this anyway?

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link

that's the oxford comma. i assume he's reluctant to call it by its name because he thinks it reflects poorly on oxford.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

my impression is that although momentum is attractive to lexiters, bennites, ppl w/ grudges against their CLPs, and various older ppl that like to bloviate in meetings while calling ppl comrade, they are not generally at the centre of things and momentum have done a good job at organising locally and broadening their base. I have been surprised by how many of those old left ppl are generally abt tho, I think they're often underestimated.

I think a lot of labour leavers are not that hardcore, mb even a majority are soft lexiters who don't like the EU or remainer discourse but don't as an overwhelming priority, even if they might think it's an obviously opportune moment to leave & be annoyed on democratic grounds etc.

but yes it's very difficult for labour when the constituencies that will decide the election include a lot of scottish ones and some of the most strongly leave english ones

ogmor, Friday, 26 July 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link

xp. oxford comma is before and!

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

is it like “and, as if that weren’t bad enough,”

2019OK plus bennu (wins), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

double space after full stops? mogg is a savage

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

xp. aah. that sounds right

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

I’ll wait for the gold top hats among us to confirm

2019OK plus bennu (wins), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link

I was hoping we weren't going to give this tedious piece of Rees-Mogg personal brand building the oxygen it doesn't deserve.

Matt DC, Friday, 26 July 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

you must be new to ilx

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link

for matt:

pic.twitter.com/XpnCrNYj67

— Ed Jefferson (@edjeff) July 26, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link

Andrew Gilligan appointed as transport advisor. Partisan attack dog journalism pays off.

ShariVari, Friday, 26 July 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

Some big boots for the boy to fill there:p

calzino, Friday, 26 July 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

I was thinking he was stepping into Grayling's job, but no it seems.

calzino, Friday, 26 July 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

I bet JRM doesn't know the word "esquire" is one of the few words of Basque origin in the English language. The fucking newish money ignorant prick, hope he dies soon!

calzino, Friday, 26 July 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

would've thought that would be latin etymology

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

The learned fellow I got this off was quite surprised as well.

calzino, Friday, 26 July 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

gold-topped dril comma or, gtfo

mark s, Friday, 26 July 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link

the correct response to "double space after fullstops" is BIGGER THAN BEFORE

mark s, Friday, 26 July 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

Since when is ‘fullstops’ a compound word? Floreat Etona, Jacob.

suzy, Friday, 26 July 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/243337?fbclid=IwAR2Flmh0wE_Z1N4RelPfWgiMJa8Rqson3hQgwXTwqDNttm-GQ11PPyblzQo

it probably won't make a shit of difference, but it might be worth signing this Jodey Whiting inquest petition. She commit suicide 15 days after her benefits were stopped because during a pneumonia spell in hospital a letter for a capability assessment was sent to her that she was never aware of. The petition is only being backed by Mind. Most the other toothless disability charities (including NAS calmly posting as they usually do) are congratulating the conservative government for apologising for her death and giving her mum 10 grand and are not backing an inquest into this repulsive travesty. Most of these charities proudly wear golden top-hats btw

calzino, Friday, 26 July 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link

thought this was an interesting thread

Nick Gutteridge
@nick_gutteridge
1/ I've done this before but on a day like today it's worth remembering the striking difference in the way the EU and UK see the backstop. From the Brussels furnace, based on convos with officials/diplomats, the EU perspective (not advocating either way just reporting as ever).

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― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:23 (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

informative but I'm presuming that he felt that stating "safeguards the GFA" would have been redundant

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 July 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link

Suzy is right -- 'full stop' should be written as two separate words.

the pinefox, Saturday, 27 July 2019 08:23 (four years ago) link

"fools' stop" if it's followed by two spaces

conrad, Saturday, 27 July 2019 08:54 (four years ago) link

when you are a posh tryhard grammar pedant it doesn't matter if you are wrong. Just like it doesn't matter that because of class deference you can merrily paint castles in the sky like how foodbanks are very positive + uplifing examples of state paternalism and Great Britain has always been 100% food self-sufficient because of our great farmers and genius advances in agriscience .. and nobody tells you to stfu and quit shit-talking or even interrupts you.

calzino, Saturday, 27 July 2019 09:01 (four years ago) link

Foodbanks or food banks, what say you, Mr. Rees-Mogg?

Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 July 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link

Meanwhile Cummings apptly intends Brexit even if election is happening. No Deal was much too soft, let’s No Deal while we’re in purdah and don’t have a government

Am told by a senior No10 source, idea of an election before 31/10 for a ‘mandate’ was “eliminated” by Dominic Cummings in his first meeting this spads and key official last night

More...

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— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) July 27, 2019

stet, Saturday, 27 July 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link

I can't remember the option to have an unelected right wing dictatorship on the EU referendum ballot.

calzino, Saturday, 27 July 2019 10:57 (four years ago) link

> idea of an election before 31/10 for a ‘mandate’ was “eliminated” by Dominic Cummings

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-calls-election-times-she-said-there-would-be-no-snap-election-a7688471.html

koogs, Saturday, 27 July 2019 11:15 (four years ago) link

Xp "Leave the European Union"

Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 27 July 2019 11:16 (four years ago) link


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