i couldnt finish this fucking article. its basically a hagiography of their inherent goodness. fuck this nazi apologia.
― Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Thursday, 25 July 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
"They're non-violent, they're good people. Never got in trouble or anything."what the fuck
― maura, Thursday, 25 July 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
(thinking face emoji)
― Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, 25 July 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link
jesus that's awful.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link
They were totally normal nice people until video games turned them into serial killers.
― beard papa, Friday, 26 July 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
it’s only the first 3 times they murdered someone
― Vape Store (crüt), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
$250 million Sandmann lawsuit against Washington Post dismissed by federal judge50 million Sandmann lawsuit against Washington Post dismissed by federal judge
Dismissed with prejudice, so he can't re-file.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 26 July 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link
oh man
BitMitigate is owned by another company, Epik, a firm based outside Redmond, Wash., that bought the service earlier this year. Epik, a hosting and domain-name firm that gained notoriety after backing the far-right site Gab, has loudly criticized what it calls “digital censorship” and “organized efforts to de-platform and incapacitate practitioners of lawful free speech.”
Epik chief Rob Monster wrote Monday that the company had not solicited 8chan’s business but was now helping manage some of the site’s technical needs and was further evaluating whether to offer it other services, including a defense against cyberattacks."We enter into a slippery slope when we start to limit speech that makes us uncomfortable,” Monster wrote.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 August 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link
the guy keeping 8chan online is named ROB MONSTER
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 August 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link
Good news is that at least temporarily it also fucked BitMitigate, who got shut down by the people they were using for servers.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 5 August 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link
If I married that dude we would both be named Rob Monster-Hunt
― rob, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 00:45 (four years ago) link
I wonder what country Andrew Anglin has fled tohttps://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/457270-neo-nazi-website-operator-ordered-to-pay-725k-in-harassment
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
I've read somewhere that he's probably still in the US.
― adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 07:03 (four years ago) link
that seems like a risky thing to have your lawyer lie about in court
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link
Black writer in Seattle who writes about racism being targeted with false reports intended to get cops to kill her and/or her family.
I just got a phone call from the King County Sheriff's Office saying that there was a report of gunshots at my home.My older son is there alone. I called him and woke him up. There were no gunshots.These hateful white supremacists are trying to get my family killed.— Ijeoma Oluo (@IjeomaOluo) August 14, 2019
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
posting this excellent summary of the Portland rally yesterday, I am so proud of that city and my state.
"Today’s white nationalist rally in Portland, Oregon was a complete rout.
The largely non-Portland (white nationalist) crowd was mostly abandoned by its leadership the night before. People arrived with no places to sleep and calls to cell phones went unreturned. This morning found hate group members without places to eat, water and access to restrooms. An increasing number of businesses (like the one pictured) were denying service.
The promised five hour hate rally lasted about 45 minutes; participants were forced to rally underneath a bridge and then had to beg police to escort them out (a very long walk) over (yet) another bridge. Rally leaders then quickly took to their cars to allegedly attend a BBQ that just happened to not be in Portland.
Other remnants of the rally were forced to walk around downtown Portland for nearly two hours as they searched for their cars. I heard at least two Portlanders give them wrong directions. Tired, thirst and walked out; people started to drift away in droves, leaving a dejected looking Joey Gibson (leader of Patriot Prayer) with an increasingly smaller and smaller crowd around him. Not getting the physical confrontation he sought and contemplating his growing civil and criminal legal woes, Joey was very subdued today.
After analysis?
The social pressure and evolving diverse and incredibly fun tactics of PopMob; the seriousness of the Portland Police; and the number of city, civic and business leaders mobilized seems to have taken serious steam out of the white nationalist/alt right protest.
It’s clear from the speeches and comments today that White nationalist/alt right leaders are wary of the increasing civil suits led by the Oregon Justice Resource Center and criminal liabilities they are facing from disrupting communities.
Really proud of Portland today. Super impressed, from the leadership in the streets to city hall. Folks will be back to political positioning and eating each other alive tomorrow, but hope everyone gives each other a small nod of respect tonight
You are an amazing community Portand and you showed up this month and it mattered. Community and leadership made this happen and you showed up with a lot of both. Goodnight from the Rose City. #OurCityOurHome"
― sleeve, Monday, 19 August 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link
also a bunch of them parked in a Fred Meyer (Kroger) store lot and got towed, lol
― sleeve, Monday, 19 August 2019 02:55 (four years ago) link
<raises hand>
Are the demographics of the pacific north west conspicuously 'whiter' than elsewhere in the US and is that likely part of reason for the fascist obsession with Portland?
― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link
"<raises hand>
Er, fuck, I mean, not like *that*
― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
xp yes to the first, not sure about the second, I think it has to do more with Portland's "radical hotbed" reputation that makes it an inviting target. but the demographics definitely play a role. I mean, they once wanted to kick all the Catholics out of Oregon (along with every other non-WASP group of course).
― sleeve, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link
"they" being Oregon legislature, a long time ago
it's kinda funny one of my best friends moved up to portland a couple of years ago and we were exchanging texts saturday night about how these dorks would never try something on this scale in nyc or philly or chicago etc
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
this is from the Intercept, so grain of salt, but it makes the case that yes, Portland's demographics appeal to white supremacist orgs for recruiting purposes: https://theintercept.com/2019/08/16/portland-far-right-rally/
― rob, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link
I would assume the point of going to Portland is that they want the story to be "leftist terrorists punched us" so they have to go where there's a large population of single young men with left politics and hope somebody takes the bait.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
these dorks would never try something on this scale in nyc or philly or chicago etc
They did it in DC a month ago! I think they'll go wherever they think they can gin up a fight and get on Fox News and thence to Trump's twitter feed. That's the goal.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link
ah that's right! was it this big a deal though? i was thinking it was kind of poorly attended but might be misremembering.
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link
they want the story to be "leftist terrorists punched us"
they'll go wherever they think they can gin up a fight and get on Fox News and thence to Trump's twitter feed
both otm
― sleeve, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link
the straight pride parade in boston is coming up :/
― maura, Monday, 19 August 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
do these people know about Gay Shame parades? There should def be a Straight Shame parade...
― Οὖτις, Monday, 19 August 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link
pride was here a couple weeks ago and i had just stopped drinking for a bit and wasn't quite ready to go out and be around other people partying, so i didn't go to a thing my gf and her friends were going to and stayed home and vaped weed and watched tarantino films. when i saw a couple of my buddies the next day and told them what i was doing the night before they said that was my "straight pride" night
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 August 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link
relevant podcast episode
http://idontspeakgerman.libsyn.com/episode-27-a-history-of-white-nationalism-in-the-pacific-northwest
― adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 06:57 (four years ago) link
enjoy living in prison w yr aryan brotherhood buddies:https://www.yahoo.com/news/neo-nazi-james-fields-life-181119153.html
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
victim impact statements are probably bad not good but I'm also glad someone got to call him scum from the stand
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link
dude probably wishes he were a cop when he ran those people over right now tho
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:04 (four years ago) link
why do you think victim impact statements are bad?
― ☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:09 (four years ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/05/21/the-rise-of-the-victims-rights-movement
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link
The Bryan Stevenson book 'Just Mercy' has a section on victims' rights. They've led to a disparity of sentencing between races and classes. I haven't read the NYer article yet but it seems to go into that.
― adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
see also: mandatory minimum sentencing, largely pushed by these groups iirc
― sleeve, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link
Kind of related - mistrial was declared last week in the case of the alt-right shitheads who shot a protester outside a Milo appearance in Seattle, apparently a minority on the jury were of similar mind to the defendants. However a big factor was that the victim refused to testify due to not believing in a punitive justice system, afaik he just wanted to meet with the defendants but I don’t think they agreed.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link
I bought a copy of Hasbro's mean-spirited and woefully ill-informed "MONOPOLY: SOCIALISM" board game so you don't have to - a thread 1/ pic.twitter.com/YhZWDjkAnj— Nick Kapur (@nick_kapur) August 21, 2019
― gyac, Thursday, 22 August 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link
https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/08/26/27039560/undercover-in-patriot-prayer-insights-from-a-vancouver-democrat-whos-been-working-against-the-far-right-group-from-the-inside
This is great. If you haven't watched the video it's fucking surreal.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 26 August 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
that Monopoly thing is even more ironic considering the game was originally designed to satirize landlords & capitalism, then was stolen by someone else and turned into a highly profitable board game, none of which made its way to the original creator. capitalism at its finest.
― frogbs, Monday, 26 August 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
That Portland Mercury article is actually getting results: Andy Ngo has apparently been disowned by phrenologist site Quillette, where he was on the masthead until a couple of hours ago.
Andy Ngo just removed Quillette from his bio...... the same day it was revealed that Ngo and the violent far-right group Patriot Prayer had an "understanding" that he would protect them and they'd protect him.(h/t @Avi_Bueno) pic.twitter.com/WDJRST8EYJ— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) August 27, 2019
All traces of far-right provoceateur Andy Ngo have been wiped from the far-right phrenology website, Quillette. He doesn’t even have Quillette in his bio anymore. Rumor has it that Andy was fired for paling around with the white nationalist group Patriot Prayer. pic.twitter.com/lo1yC34WfA— Nathan Bernard (@nathanTbernard) August 27, 2019
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link
Glorious
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:26 (four years ago) link
Monopoly is also much like capitalism in that it sucks
― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link
great news
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 03:49 (four years ago) link
Do the phrenologists think patriot prayer are too extreme or not extreme enough? Not enough head bearings or head beating getting the lumps to appear in the wrong places?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link
Quillette's editor is claiming that he actually dropped out of service because of his oh-so-traumatic brain injury, but she would.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 08:04 (four years ago) link
she was the one that published the fake DSA takedown piece a couple of weeks ago right?
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link
he only did about 15 live interviews after that brain injury, let the man rest
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link