PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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Yup, totally an election cabinet. The chancer is doing exactly that.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

Someone explain the election cabinet thing pls? Cos this looks like the dregs.

gyac, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

A cabinet likely to lose Johnson a VONC at the first opportunity iirc.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

I don’t pretend to have the Huge Brain required for this strategy, but it was Javid that made me think: he’s the guy you put in if you want to talk tough about business while actually spaffing election sweeteners all over the shop. Especially if you don’t want actual fiscal policy and all sorts of “we have to save our cash for the incoming apocalypse” quibbles being raised.

And Patel is who you want to talk absurdly and pointlessly tough on law and order, and it won’t hurt if it’s her posturing against Khan as a proxy for Labour in the London seats.

Raab ... I got nothing but since when have Tory voters cared about engaging with foreign?

stet, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

19:25
Stephen Barclay remains as Brexit secretary

Stephen Barclay is staying as Brexit secretary, Number 10 has announced


Lol he literally dgaf about this job

gyac, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

who?

Mr Jolyon Posts Next Door (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

sorry i mean "who hell he?" not "who ldgaf?"

Mr Jolyon Posts Next Door (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link


Gove appointed chancellor of Duchy of Lancaster

Michael Gove, the environment secretary, has been made chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster. That means he will be based in the Cabinet Office.

On paper that does not seem like much of a job. The formal demands of the job are minimal (like appointing vicars in Lancashire). But the title is normally given to a minister given some kind of “fixer” role. David Lidington, Theresa May’s de facto deputy, was chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster. Oliver Letwin also held the post.

Over the weekend the Boris Johnson camp briefed that Gove would be getting a promotion. This job could be a promotion, but that will depend on what Johnson asks Gove to “fix”, and how much authority he is given.

The person doing this job also often doubles us as “minister for the Today programme” - ie the government’s go-to media performer. This is something Gove would do very well.

gyac, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

Lolz Truss to International Trade, banter game strong

gyac, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link

all the "sorry to see x go" talk made me think some Tories had actually crossed the floor, but hell no, that would be too much to expect after all the talk abt Never Boris

(might some go now the cabinet's been announced? or after a weekend to think about it and discuss it with family? or should I stop deluding myself that such a thing might ever happen?)

Truss and Raab for exploratory cheese and pork markets reconnaissance trip to Calais obv

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

or should I stop deluding myself that such a thing might ever happen?

This strikes me as the UK equivalent of American liberals pining for 'good' conservative Republicans, so yeah.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

i looked at those jon worth flow diagrams for the first time in ages and it seems delusional

https://jonworth.eu/brexit-what-next/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

Makes me nostalgic for those long-ago times of certainty. Like every time round the actual result is something batshit-unexpected and thus nowhere to be seen on the pointless flow.

stet, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

the biggest challenge of all... 👀

2/4 I've been a cabinet minister for every hour my 3 gorgeous children have been alive. So whilst it may seem strange for someone who just tried to become PM (& is a terrible cliche) I have decided now is the time for the biggest challenge of all - to be a GOOD DAD!

— Jeremy Hunt (@Jeremy_Hunt) July 24, 2019

im led by donky (||||||||), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

lol oh great


Theresa Villiers returns to cabinet as environment secretary

Theresa Villiers, the former Northern Ireland secretary and another alumnus of the Vote Leave campaign, has returned to the cabinet as environment secretary.

gyac, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link

"I have decided now is the time for the biggest challenge of all - to be a GOOD DAD!"

Surely even on here we can't be churlish about a repentant child-abuser making a pledge to change his evil ways.

calzino, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

Hasn’t Villiers got a very slight majority or something?

suzy, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link

think it may be a dig at boris “5 or 6 children” johnson

xp

im led by donky (||||||||), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

they are the lucky ones!

calzino, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

Ooooh definitely a dig at BJ.

suzy, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

Good lord, Gavin Williamson, sacked a few weeks ago for leaking national security secrets to the press, now in charge of Education.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

i always mix him up with Nazi otter-lover Henry Williamson

Mr Jolyon Posts Next Door (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

Nicky Morgan to culture secretary - this is from SEPTEMBER 2018. welcome to the resistance, Nicky https://t.co/9W2vmRDPT8 pic.twitter.com/HA3calWEKa

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) July 24, 2019



The Rt Hon Grant Shapps @grantshapps has been appointed Secretary of State for Transport @transportgovuk pic.twitter.com/lZNqFWXZ3B

— UK Prime Minister (@10DowningStreet) July 24, 2019

lol @ this Wikipedia troll making a comeback

gyac, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

lol One-Nation tories in the area!

calzino, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

In this era it has become clearer than ever that actual One nation Toryism hasn't really been seen since the 70's or Blair's half arsed version in the 90's

calzino, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link

"never mind the backstop.. the buck stops here"

^^^
I've always said posh schools are well overrated!

calzino, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

DID HE JUST SAY THAT

I am over on BBC4 watching Mary Beard, who actually knows her shit re: classics, as a form of protest.

suzy, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

Someone explain the election cabinet thing pls? Cos this looks like the dregs.

― gyac, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

The thinking (and this is just as much in regards to Dominic Cummings hire) is to do with uniting the right-wing under leave, getting the Brexit party faithful back, and if successful pushing that Unchained vision through. In a situation with few options..

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

james butler explains the cabinet: https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2019/july/bring-your-own-sunshine

(it reads a bit hurried to me in places -- he was also at teh demo -- but JB is always good on process and procedure and where this can create blocks and problems)

mark s, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link

Rees-Mogg offered numerous Cabinet roles but didn't fancy the demotion.

nashwan, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

xps yeah the assumption I guess is that this neuters the Brexit Party so that they sweep up all single-issue leavers, along with keeping standard Tory scum plus a tiny Boris = ledge contingent; they can rely on media to help most single-issue remainer dopes go lib dem and weaken Labour; non-single-issue votes break messily but don't give enough to ultimately ahem 'let Corbyn in'.

I am cautiously optimistic that this will not work.

woof, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link

Lol:

"High office has spared us Johnson’s long-threatened book on Shakespeare" xp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

I don't see how this government can govern, so I think it's a pantomime for a while: blame Europe, blame parliament, blame blame blame, then provoke a vote of no confidence and get to the election with disingenuous reluctance.

woof, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link

xxp a lot of the headbangers out there are ENRAGED by Rudd/Morgan etc in the cabinet.

gyac, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

clearly going to keep on saying "we won't have an election" because he reckons people still fatigued by that prospect - it's nearly inevitable though, and he'll position it as having been foisted on GBP by a recalcitrant EU/WM

im led by donky (||||||||), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

I think a lot of those Tory-Lib dem marginals are really done for the Tories. Labour can also demonise the Unchained vision, which is incredibly negative and dark at its core.

And I still think Boris' past -- his role in the Leave campaign as well as his personal life -- will have a role to play.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link

yup. someone is saving that recording for election week.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

I don't see how this government can govern, so I think it's a pantomime for a while: blame Europe, blame parliament, blame blame blame, then provoke a vote of no confidence and get to the election with disingenuous reluctance.

Sounds about right.

Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link

Time to check in on what Matthew Goodwin, author of the forthcoming National Populism: The Assault Against Liberal Democracy, is tweeting:

https://i.postimg.cc/fbbhsGF6/ECE2-AC6-C-DE0-C-4-BCC-9-F89-2-A93545-C2-C53.jpg

There is absolutely no way that centre-right liberals are not going to line up behind Johnson, however Atlas Shrugged he goes.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link

How can there be Islamophobia in the Tory party with a cabinet like this?!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link

You mean that guy they forgot to invite to meet Trump?

Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

lol! Priti is such a poisonous piece of garbage, can't Macron have her please

calzino, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link

On one hand, another big step in the rise of fascism. On the other, this reshuffle means that Bravo Two Zero will be on the GSCE curriculum.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link

Once you've met some deranged pub bore whose eyes travel in multiple directions and they have a well thumbed copy of Bravo Two Zero with the pages stuck together - that's when you call Prevent. Not make them a fucking minister.

calzino, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

Feel like we should run a sweepstakes on the first one to be sacked.

If I was Corbyn I'd be calling him out on his dare-or-die bullshit and ask him to call an election. The line should be 'what are you afraid of?' from now on.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link

thanks boris, very cool!

Well, the new Housing Minister is a guy named Robert Jenrick. The multi-millionaire owns 3 houses, and just to show his common touch, he once said he doesn’t “need to have a disabled daughter” to know what it’s like to be hard up.

Absolute tosser.

— Rachael Swindon (@Rachael_Swindon) July 25, 2019

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:41 (four years ago) link

https://ipnotglobal.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/robert-jenrick-e1383324980122.jpg?w=871
he seems like a fair lad!

calzino, Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:49 (four years ago) link

the cold, dead eyes of a killer right there

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:49 (four years ago) link

He's got three houses, so he must be a perfect match on housing amirite?

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:52 (four years ago) link


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