This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year AND DECADE in Cinema" -- 2019

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They are.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

Or we are.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

Moonlight isn't a great movie, but it's good enough, and worth inclusion. We tend to forget breakthrough queer films starring African Americans deserve boosting. I screened it yesterday for students, and it impressed them. We had a good chat about its cinematography, narrative, and sound design.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

Boost away. Anyone who says it's the best of the last ten years is not serious.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

I expect the polls casting wider nets will push The Tree of Life into that #1 spot in the end.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

(xpost) Not to get semantic, but it's a poll--it's a bunch of people saying it's one of the best.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

I.e., they don't, that I can see, link to individual lists, but it's possible not one of the eleven contributors listed it at #1--it may have just had most of them putting it reasonably high on their lists.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

A colleague of mine seems pretty convinced this list wasn't to the letter collaborative and I partially agree.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link

Meaning someone was allowed to re-order it with readership, etc. in mind, like Rolling Stone and other publications do?

I think with lists like these, voters often use their #1 slot for quirkier, more personal choices. I can see where something like Moonlight would have broad support without even getting close to a #1 vote.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link

Yeah, it feels a bit like the editor railroaded some titles up (or on the list in the first place). But, all's fair in list-bait.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link

I wish to hope Bellflower continues to remain 'overlooked'

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/most-underrated-movies-decade-1202160014/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

It's also from 2006 :)

― Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 11:20 (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Pedant!

Funky Isolations (jed_), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

Eh, I think the pedantic thing to say would be that it actually had its Greek premiere at the 2010 Thessaloniki Film Festival, so by the rules guiding most of the ILX film polls it's eligible.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

that was my criterion ;)

Funky Isolations (jed_), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link

I don't seem to have rated a single contemporary film as 5/5 since joining Letterboxd 5 (?) years ago, and can't recall one I might from '10-14 (Certified Copy could come close).

So that's my current position: I've seen zero great films this decade.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 July 2019 01:40 (four years ago) link

That King’s Speech blurb is some gymnastics.

jmm, Friday, 26 July 2019 01:52 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

On Thursday, Gotham Award nominations kick things off in earnest.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

https://www.thedailybeast.com/from-joker-to-trump-the-2020-oscars-are-going-to-be-totally-insane-is-it-time-to-tune-out

The 2020 Oscars Will Be a Politically Divided Sh*tshow

The Oscars are cynical awards dressed in the guise of earnestness, which is what the people most vocally critical about them—from far-right news outlets to Marvel fans—miss entirely. Whether the awarded films are “the best” or not is beside the point. The Oscars are a television spectacle that mostly function as a marketing opportunity for large corporations. And these corporations have financial reasons to be concerned about ratings, which is why, every year, we hear about them.

...

Still, great filmmakers can—and have, and must—achieve greatness without the Oscars. Limitations in resources do not necessarily deprive a film of quality, which the history of film can easily attest to. Directors like Shirley Clark, Euzhan Palcy, Elaine May, Vera Chytilová, Bill Gunn, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Ousmane Sembène, Cheryl Dunye, and Julie Dash made their work anyway and whether we see their films or not is partly up to us—our own curiosity and love for art that is imaginative and doesn’t simply “make you think,” as the trite saying goes, but thinks itself. And as for superhero films, they will undoubtedly continue to get made and distributed to your local multiplexes and chosen streaming services; whether there’s any shame in consuming them will always be both a political and personal consideration.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link

it's like a veil has been lifted from my eyes and i can now see everything clearly.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link

Rosenbaum has already posted his Sight and Sound top ten:

https://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2019/10/ten-best-list-for-sight-and-sound-2019/

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

Still mad at him for docking Femme Fatale from his "best of the 21st century" list.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

Not a strong year for crossover docs either, huh.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

Didn't Foxtrot come out like 5 years ago?

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

Here we go!

GOTHAM AWARD NOMINATIONS 2019 ... also known as the A24 AWARDS

Best Feature
“The Farewell” (A24)
“Hustlers” (STXfilms)
“Marriage Story” (Netflix)
“Uncut Gems” (A24)
“Waves” (A24)

Best Documentary
“American Factory” (Netflix)
“Apollo 11” (NEON and CNN Films)
“The Edge of Democracy” (Netflix)
“Midnight Traveler” (Oscilloscope Laboratories)
“One Child Nation” (Amazon Studios)

Breakthrough Director
Laure De Clermont-Tonnerre for “The Mustang” (Focus Features)
Kent Jones for “Diane” (IFC Films)
Joe Talbot for “The Last Black Man in San Francisco” (A24)
Olivia Wilde for “Booksmart” (United Artists Releasing)
Philip Youmans for "Burning Cane" (Array Releasing)

Best screenplay
“The Farewell,” Lulu Wang (A24)
“High Flying Bird,” Tarell Alvin McCraney (Netflix)
“The Last Black Man in San Francisco, Jimmie Fails,” Joe Talbot, Rob Richert (A24)
“Marriage Story,” Noah Baumbach (Netflix)
"Midsommar," Ari Aster (A24)

Best Actor
Willem Dafoe in “The Lighthouse” (A24)
Adam Driver in “Marriage Story” (Netflix)
Aldis Hodge in “Clemency” (NEON)
André Holland in “High Flying Bird” (Netflix)
Adam Sandler in “Uncut Gems” (A24)

Best Actress
Awkwafina in “The Farewell” (A24)
Elisabeth Moss in “Her Smell” (Gunpowder & Sky)
Mary Kay Place in “Diane” (IFC Films)
Florence Pugh in “Midsommar” (A24)
Alfre Woodard in “Clemency” (NEON)

Breakthrough Actor
Julia Fox in “Uncut Gems” (A24)
Aisling Franciosi in “The Nightingale? (IFC Films)
Chris Galust in “Give Me Liberty” (Music Box Films)
Noah Jupe in “Honey Boy” (Amazon Studios)
Jonathan Majors in “The Last Black Man in San Francisco” (A24)
Taylor Russell in “Waves” (A24)

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link

already p much "no surprises"! well done, all

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link

I mean, Hustlers up there is a little bit of a surprise.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link

They don't do supporting actors, right? So the film is there instead of J.Lo.

I guess The Souvenir will get all The Max Bialystock "Too Good" non-honors.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 October 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

Plenty of those non-honors to go around.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link

no ScarJo for Marriage Story? lol

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

Good to see André Holland though.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

Not having seen it, all the attention seems to be getting directed at Driver and Dern.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

Here's another thing:

https://www.screendaily.com/news/the-personal-history-of-david-copperfield-wild-rose-head-2019-bifa-nominations/5144228.article

Bifa Nominations 2019

Best British Independent Film
Bait, Mark Jenkin, Kate Byers, Linn Waite
For Sama, Waad Al-Kateab, Edward Watts
The Personal History Of David Copperfield, Armando Iannucci, Simon Blackwell, Kevin Loader The Souvenir Joanna Hogg, Luke Schiller
The Souvenir, Joanna Hogg, Luke Schiller
Wild Rose, Tom Harper, Nicole Taylor, Faye Ward

Best Director
Waad Al-Kateab, Edward Watts, For Sama
Oliver Hermanus, Moffie
Joanna Hogg, The Souvenir
Mark Jenkin, Bait
Asif Kapadia, Diego Maradona

Best Actress
Jessie Buckley, Wild Rose
Holliday Grainger, Animals
Sally Hawkins, Eternal Beauty
Vicky Knight, Dirty God
Renee Zellweger, Judy

Best Supporting Actress
Jessica Barden, Scarborough
Ruthxjiah Bellenea, The Last Tree
Elizabeth Debicki, Vita & Virginia
Tilda Swinton, The Personal History Of David Copperfield
Julie Walters, Wild Rose

Best Screenplay
Joanna Hogg, The Souvenir
Armando Iannucci, Simon Blackwell, The Personal History Of David Copperfield
Paul Laverty, Sorry We Missed You
Peter Strickland, In Fabric
Nicole Taylor, Wild Rose

Best Actor
Sam Adewunmi, The Last Tree
Tom Burke, The Souvenir
Kris Hitchen, Sorry We Missed You
Josh O’Connor, Only You
Dev Patel, The Personal History Of David Copperfield

Best Supporting Actor
Chiwetel Ejiofor, The Boy Who Harnessed The Wind
Hugh Laurie, The Personal History Of David Copperfield
Edlison Manuel Olbera Núñez, Yuli – The Carlos Acosta Story
Peter Mullan, The Vanishing
Bluey Robinson, Dirty God

Best Documentary
Coup 53, Taghi Amirani, Walter Murch, Paul Zaentz
Diego Maradona, Asif Kapadia, James Gay-Rees, Paul Martin
For Sama, Waad Al-Kateab, Edward Watts
Seahorse, Jeanie Finlay, Andrea Cornwell
Tell Me Who I Am, Ed Perkins, Simon Chinn

Best International Independent Film
Ash Is Purest White, Jia Zhang-Ke, Shôzô Ichiyama
Marriage Story, Noah Baumbach, David Heyman
Monos, Alejandro Landes, Alexis Dos Santos, Fernando Epstein, Cristina Landes, Santiago A Zapata
Parasite, Bong Joon-Ho, Jan Young-Hwan, Moon Yang-Kwon, Sin-Ae Kwak, Han Jin Won
Portrait Of A Lady On Fire, Céline Sciamma, Véronique Cayla, Bénédicte Couvreur

There are more categories, but you get the gist.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link

https://twitter.com/TimGrierson/status/1189977187983560705

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link

http://twitter.com/TimGrierson/status/1189977187983560705

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link

Crap, third time's the charm, I hope:

LAFCA is very pleased to announce that Elaine May will be the recipient of this year's Career Achievement award. We will be honoring this legendary actress/writer/director at our annual awards dinner on Jan. 11, 2020. pic.twitter.com/IFsMaxtHj2

— LA Film Critics (@LAFilmCritics) October 31, 2019

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link

This was earlier in the year, but worth adding:

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2019/4/results

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

#5-#1 still have yet to be revealed, but:

https://www.rogerebert.com/balder-and-dash/the-best-films-of-the-2010s

Boyhood all the way down at #25 is a welcome surprise.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link

What do we thing will have made the top five? I'm guessing Uncle Boonmee is a given. Probably Turin Horse as well. Think Stray Dogs could have made it, or has it been snubbed? Oh, and the list is pretty US-heavy, so I'm guessing Leviathan and Magic Mike as well?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

forever clueless

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

In this case, delightfully so.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

Phantom Thread #1, based on the other PTAs already placing.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

Oops, I was wrong...

1. The Tree of Life
2. Moonlight
3. Inside Llewyn Davis
4. Mad Max: Fury Road
5. Phantom Thread

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

#murica

groovemaaan, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

smdh at 2 and 4, and even somewhat at 3

(all of which are good btw)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

All five are perfectly fine.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

And glad they all ranked above Roma, The Wolf of Wall Street and The Social Network.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link

only two can remotely be considered Decade's Best in my book xp

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

Dare you to scroll thru all 100: https://filmschoolrejects.com/most-beautiful-shots-of-the-decade/

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

wasdnuos (abanana), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

pvmic

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Monday, 27 January 2020 15:47 (four years ago) link

Oscar will Xerox that top 8.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

WGA: Parasite, Jojo Rabbit

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:24 (four years ago) link

the continued success of Jojo Rabbit is unfuckingbelievable

flappy bird, Monday, 3 February 2020 18:07 (four years ago) link

it's the "with-it" Life Is Beautiful

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

Jojo's screenplay is Adapted from my nightmares iirc

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link

My main glitches with Jojo is that I think the whole Wes Anderson look is a little played and the trailer/marketing really kneecapped it. Its conceit isn't as affecting/smart as, say, Transit, but I think for a middlebrow movie that tackled a serious thing, it looks great and is funny and is emotional without being bathetic. Taika is phenomenal in it!

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link

Really? as 'adorkable Hitler'?

flappy bird, Monday, 3 February 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link

whoops, er, broken link i guess

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 3 February 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link

I don't have anything against the guy but the whole thing struck me as profoundly stupid and often offensive, not out of malice but ignorance & naivete. of course a holocaust/nazi comedy can be made, but the movie had the stale fake woke posturing of a Sprite commercial. imo

xxp

flappy bird, Monday, 3 February 2020 19:17 (four years ago) link

WORST SCREEN COMBO
Any two half-feline/half-human hairballs,Cats
Jason Derulo and his CGI-neutered bulge, Cats
Tyler Perry and Tyler Perry (or Tyler Perry), A Madea Family Funeral
Sylvester Stallone and his impotent rage, Rambo: First Blood
John Travolta and any screenplay he accepts

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Saturday, 8 February 2020 17:53 (four years ago) link

one month passes...
five months pass...

Crazy follow up for Honeyland here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/world/europe/honeyland-north-macedonia-bees.html

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 07:22 (three years ago) link

“It’s impossible!” sighed Mr. Georgiev. “We are filmmakers, not social workers.”

Maybe you shouldn't have bought her a fucking house then! Morons

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

i applaud their willingness to share their good fortune! It's incredibly rare among filmmakers that they treat their subjects as human after the camera stops rolling.
can't help but feel that follow up pieces like this are sort of mixed-up PR though.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

That's absolutely what it is. And there's a difference between treating your subjects as human beings and all of a sudden becoming their patrons. It's really deplorable, unethical stuff, and anyone that couldn't see these issues coming from a mile away, I don't know what to say. Good intentions mean so little.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

I will say I think cutting a check and sharing in the good fortune of the movie with its subjects is one thing, and admirable -- what I find inappropriate is the extent to which the filmmakers became involved in her life, whatever their intentions were.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

well they clearly got heavily involved in both families' lives in the process of filming! They just never disentangled.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

I don't think it's despicable? ethically fraught, sure. but when you spend a lot of time around specific humans, these things can happen.

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

You're right, too harsh a word. But this is the A1 rule of documentary filmmaking, and yes, these things happen, they are human--they still failed to do their job and "disentangle" from the family.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

true. Herzog's almost certainly done worse of course

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

I haven't seen the film or read the piece, so I'm just responding to what I take is the general gist of the story. I've mentioned this anecdote before. At a Q&A with Frederick Wiseman after a screening of Juvenile Court, I asked him if he followed up with any of the kids he filmed. His answer was four or five words--I forget exactly what he said, but the unmistakable message was no, of course not, and that I'd asked the dumbest question in the world.

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

Other end of the spectrum: Steve James and Stevie.

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

(Or not--James had a relationship with Stevie Fielding that predated the film by a decade.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

now, conversely, I'm wondering to what extent the subjects of The Act of Killing keep an eye on Josh Oppenheimer and co....

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

now, conversely, I'm wondering to what extent the subjects of _The Act of Killing_ keep an eye on Josh Oppenheimer and co....


Good question. If I was JO I’d be scared as shit

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

I haven't seen the film or read the piece, so I'm just responding to what I take is the general gist of the story. I've mentioned this anecdote before. At a Q&A with Frederick Wiseman after a screening of _Juvenile Court_, I asked him if he followed up with any of the kids he filmed. His answer was four or five words--I forget exactly what he said, but the unmistakable message was no, of course not, and that I'd asked the dumbest question in the world.


Godmode

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link


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