Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

Also linked from there and with more recent recommendations: recommend me some essential graphic novels to acquire

Ah, I knew there was a fresher thread. I've posted some stuff in Andrew's link.

sic — does this volume contain all the good Dan Slott material you mentioned?

Ah, NM, I guess that’s the first one you linked to

Slott's entire run is encompassed by the two complete collections.

slott's long run on amazing spider-man is also really, really good fyi

But okay so see the problem with recommending that one is that, although they started doing comprehensive reprints just a couple years ago, at least one of the collections is already out of print and fetching ridiculous prices.

Probably the best bet is for newbies to sign up for Marvel Unlimited and poke around until they find something they like. Trying to deal with Perlmutter's printing policies is more hassle than it's worth (which is specifically why I recommended stuff that was recently reprinted and thusly still in print in the other thread).

ahh see marvel unlimited is where i do all my reading nowadays so thankfully i don't have to worry about negotiating the insane world of marvel's reprints

Reasonable approach. I'm living proof of the toll those negotiations can take upon the fragile human mind.

(Plus as far as I know, there's never been a reprint of the Frank Miller Daredevil which Andrew recommends that doesn't have hideous garish "re"colouring, though this also applies to nearly any current editions of 1940s-1990s Marvel.)

ugh, I hate this re-coloring so much

Axe Cop is hilarious, second that rec for kids

sic — does this volume contain all the good Dan Slott material you mentioned?

Ah, NM, I guess that’s the first one you linked to

It isn't, it just has the same cover, because Marvel always want to make it as hard as possible for people to figure out what they're trying to read.

But okay so see the problem with recommending that one is that, although they started doing comprehensive reprints just a couple years ago, at least one of the collections is already out of print and fetching ridiculous prices.

Yes, I was keeping in mind what joygoat's library is most likely to have with my specific book references.

Probably the best bet is for newbies to sign up for Marvel Unlimited and poke around until they find something they like.

imo this is an extremely terrible idea for newbies, even newbies who have not specifically expressed a 100% preference for print volumes that they don't have to pay money for.

Look, there are no good options here, just a handful of less bad options. I'm coming from a position of 'just go ahead and read and buy everything' so I'm trying to view the problem through a sane person's eyes, with limited success.

A pal of mine has been buying these $1 priced Marvel 'True Believer' reprints for his nephew, and I think that's a great idea - classic Kirby FF eg for next to nothing. And they're sticking to movie familiar characters and storylines, on the whole, so you couldn't get a better way into the foundational stories of the MU.

If borrowing from the library, you might check out their electronic borrowing systems. Here in WA, Hoopla has been keeping me current with Saga and The Walking Dead. Though less complete/current on the Marvel & DC lines, they do carry a lot of the classic runs.

xpost Yeah, the coolest thing Marvel could do right now is to reinstitute spinner racks in grocery stores et al and fill 'em up with their True Believer one-offs.

For those who aren't aware of what Ward is talking about, every month Marvel puts out an array of about a dozen themed one-issue reprints for a buck. Like a bunch of key single issues featuring the Hulk pulled from throughout the character's publication history. I'm sure they'd be an awesome entrée into the Marvel U for those curious-yet-unfamiliar but I suspect they're only available in comics stores, which seems to undercut that eventuality somewhat.

marvel unlimited is $10 a month; if you or your kids are okay reading on a tablet or desktop, it's an easy and cheap way to riff through the stacks without putting out a ton of money.
https://www.marvel.com/comics/unlimited

Giancarlo Esposito being eyed for a major role, rumors aswirl that it may be Norman Osborn. As rumors that may have zero basis in fact go, this is pretty killer.

Was rewatching Zodiac and realized it stars Iron Man, the Hulk and Mysterio. Wonder Boys stars Ant Man, Spider-Man and Iron Man. Can we think of any other non MCU movies with a similarly large number of MCU actors?

Given that 50% of actors in Hollywood will have soon starred in an MCU flick, it shouldn't be hard.

This was actually a recurring feature at a local movie trivia night: "What non-superhero movie stars (comics character), (comics character), and (comics character)?" They weren't restrictive to Marvel characters, though, which does open things up, e.g. LA Confidential starring Vicki Vale, Lex Luthor, the Penguin, and Jor-El. And I guess Aldrich Killian, but I don't think they mentioned him. The category was fun when you could solve it, but absolutely maddening when you couldn't, mainly due to combinatoric excess re: the number of possible Batmen and Jokers.

Giancarlo Esposito being eyed for a major role, rumors aswirl that it may be Norman Osborn. As rumors that may have zero basis in fact go, this is pretty killer.

he's got the hair for it!

Time for Disney to buy Sony too.

https://deadline.com/2019/08/kevin-feige-spider-man-franchise-exit-disney-sony-dispute-avengers-endgame-captain-america-winter-soldier-tom-rothman-bob-iger-1202672545/

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Does that mean Spider-Man will no longer appear in any Marvel movies?

Yeah, but thankfully he'll get to costar with Jordan Catalano in the Morbius the Vampire movie instead

I feel as bad for Tom Holland right now as I possibly could for someone half my age who has more money than I'd make in three lifetimes.

He'll still get to be Spidey, he maybe just won't get to drop in on Shang-Chi or whoever? Frankly I wonder what his role would have been in these upcoming Marvel movies, other than shoehorned in somehow. Also, I wouldn't be shocked if Marvel & Sony end up making a new deal in a few years.

He presumably took the job in part so he could play in the cool toybox, not to cameo in like a Chameleon movie starring Jamie Kennedy or whatever dumb shit Sony pulls out of its ass.

But he'll presumably still be starring in big, Sony-produced Spidey movies, am I missing something?

the mcu was clearly setting up a huge, RDJ-like role for spidey/holland. this lack of deal probably hits him in the wallet.

I guess it would be interesting to see how Sony disentangles the MCU elements from future movies (if the deal is truly dead; Variety’s reporting makes the breakdown sound less definitive than Deadline does).

When contacted by io9, a Sony representative said it’s their belief this dispute is simply over a producer credit and negotiations are ongoing. They further clarified that Feige has contributed to other Spider-centric movies that he did not receive a producer credit on. Other sources tell us the Deadline story is completely accurate.

Kamala Khan series coming to Disney+!

Plus Moon Knight and She-Hulk.

Moon Knight! Finally!

I wonder if Angie Harmon will finally get her She-Hulk casting wish.

How many series is this at this point?

More movie news:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/black-panther-2s-release-date-revealed-kit-harington-j-1837539099

Anyway, series as mentioned but:

Just found out they’re making a Moonknight movie and this better be in it pic.twitter.com/o1gQLLBtXo

— Cooper Wilhelm (@CooperWilhelm) August 24, 2019

Don't think I've ever actually seen Steinfeld in anything, but seems like potentially good casting?: https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/hawkeye-series-hailee-steinfeld-disney-plus-1203318859/

Don't know about good casting, but seems like potentially a good career move.

she was great in True Grit and Edge of Seventeen

that is great casting, she’s a perfect kate bishop

https://io9.gizmodo.com/sony-and-marvel-strike-new-deal-to-keep-spider-man-in-t-1838527425

Inevitable. Although less so is the deal to have Spidey straddle both the MCU and the Sony Crapverse. Nice bit o' extra walkin' around money for Holland.

Are you his accountant or something, lol

Only for Spidey 3 and a single MCU movie, I'm guessing whatever grand plans Marvel had for him are still kinda derailed. Still, much better than nothing, at least the Home trilogy will get a completed ending.

Popcorn movies reinforce cultural values of the moment. Marvel is brilliant at encapsulating the Kardashification of wealth and power as virtue. You can hang out in the mansions with the toys with your good looking friends and still save the world.

— Joseph Kahn (@JosephKahn) October 21, 2019