At the risk of stating the obvious, the July 2019 US Politics Thread is horse-sh*t

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Mueller: the only facts in the world are facts described by words in the specific order I arrange them. I am unparaphrasable.

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

"Respectfully, Respectfully!"

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link

that last dude was an ass but he raised a good point: where does this 'you cannot indict' language come from?

akm, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link

Mueller is a dope imo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

that last dude was an ass but he raised a good point: where does this 'you cannot indict' language come from?

That was effective, yeah. Throwing in "socialists" was laughable, though.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link

Bob Mumble mouth Mueller

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link

literally nothing is gonna come out of this, idk why Republicans are so fired up about it

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link

i don't know how any of this helps at all.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

like they're already parroting the "GOP Presidents can commit unlimited crimes" line which is 100% true

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

Mueller’s persona was superhero-like while he remained silent. Now that he speaks he’s turned into a fumbling, stay-in-your-lane Clark Kent.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

Any event which might finally induce that massive Trumpian coronary we've all been dreaming of is worthwhile for that possibility if no other.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

xpost In the article posted a couple of posts back, updated yesterday, he says the only ID he had on him was a Texas ID (state ID?). In the NYMag article his lawyer says that "Galicia was carrying several types of identification when he was stopped at the checkpoint, “including a wallet-sized Texas birth certificate, a Texas ID card and Social Security card.” So someone is being inaccurate. Now, whether he was *expected* to have other ID, that's a question. He didn't actually cross any border, did he? Anyway, fuck these border assholes, but this sounds like some crossed wires due to forms his mom filled out incorrectly.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

Mueller's distinction between "yes," "no," and "I refer you to the report" is puzzling.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

the only variable that seems to account for it is the length of the question

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

Louie Goober here to save the day

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

The only thing I can imagine coming from this is the GOP assholes self-goaling by goading him into getting more aggressive.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

lol THE LOVERS

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

Jesus, that's weak--guy accuses him of pursuing injustice, and "I take your question" is the response.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link

Ridiculous that he won't defend himself or clarify

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link

I like how Bob handled Louie

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link

Weak sauce, he should defend his own team

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

agreed. I get the idea—that he feels the question is undeserving and refuses to dignify it. But "I take your question" isn't gonna play as a soundbite or do anything to beat back these conflict of interests accusations

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link

then again *nothing* he could say wld discourage any of these ppl, Trump will be back with "total exoneration" in 30 mins

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

honestly why does anyone care about this hearing

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

I’m feeling nostalgic for Michael Cohen’s snark

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link

I do don't think Mueller read the report

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

otm

Vape Store (crüt), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

he said that no one person reviewed the entire thing, right?

Vape Store (crüt), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

honestly why does anyone care about this hearing

It's a handy way for me to categorize the various Republicans: who's loudest? who's most sanctimonious?

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

I would have thought that Mueller would want to make sure the contents of his report were clarified. Otherwise what was the point of the 2 year investigation. Seems like the outcome people feared as worst case scenario.
Or is this going to get any more worthwhile.

Seems pretty frustrating so far.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:05 (four years ago) link

If I thought the Dems will start hearings I'd have more confidence in this tweet:

This format is awful, but Democrats are directly laying out the details of Mueller's findings on obstruction, while the Republicans are waaaaay off in the weeds asking about a flurry of peripheral matters.

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) July 24, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link

That last exchange--appearances are everything--did not go well.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link

between Mueller and whom?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link

Jordan? The guy who was so annoying in the Cohen hearings. I know it's what the tweet above calls a peripheral matter, but there's a chance that this whole hearing will be reduced to how Mueller comes across, and I don't think he came across very well there.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link

Just remembered that Trump isn't watching today. (Insert appropriate images, YouTube clips, GIFs, etc.) Was curious as to what--or how--he was tweeting.

"It has been reported that Robert Mueller is saying.."

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link

Rep @CedricRichmond: 'it's fair to say that the president tried to protect himself by asking staff to falsify evidence relevant to an ongoing investigation?'
Mueller: 'I would say that's generally a summary'

— Marc Caputo (@MarcACaputo) July 24, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

jesus Bob's Big Boy grew up to be an asshole

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

Any event which might finally induce that massive Trumpian coronary we've all been dreaming of

I don't get this. Outrage (or its simulation) is his natural state.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

It was NEVER agreed that Robert Mueller could use one of his many Democrat Never Trumper lawyers to sit next to him and help him with his answers. This was specifically NOT agreed to, and I would NEVER have agreed to it. The Greatest Witch Hunt in U.S. history, by far!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 24, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

the fuck does Trump have to agree to that?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

Why didn’t Robert Mueller & his band of 18 Angry Democrats spend any time investigating Crooked Hillary Clinton, Lyin’ & Leakin’ James Comey, Lisa Page and her Psycho lover, Peter S, Andy McCabe, the beautiful Ohr family, Fusion GPS, and many more, including HIMSELF & Andrew W?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 24, 2019

comey: lyin' and leakin' live at budokan (1984)

Welshy's Lean Bulk - ****loads of pics (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

I've Got My Own Witch Hunt To Do

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

lol

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

If you had the words "correct," "refer," or "what?" in the Mueller drinking game, you've probably already passed out and the rest of us left watching are envious of your unconsciousness...

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) July 24, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

Mueller just like the rest of us: had to be reminded who Corey Lewandowski is.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

lol PK

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

The failure of democrats to consider whether Mueller was a dynamic speaker and whether his performance in a publicly-televised hearing might help or hinder their case is...just so adorably, endearingly dem, knowhutimean?

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

i guess it'd be easier to respond to that if i understood what their case was

Welshy's Lean Bulk - ****loads of pics (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

I agree with the CNN Panel: the Democrats would have been wise to shut everything down after Nadler's opening series of questions. They were right to the point: they clearly refuted (not necessary for anyone with a brain, but on the record right from Mueller) that Trump was not exonerated. There's a real chance that all the stories and coverage of everything after that will be about Mueller's camera-readiness (or however you want to put that).

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link


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