At the risk of stating the obvious, the July 2019 US Politics Thread is horse-sh*t

Worth noting

"An 18-year-old Dallas-born U.S. citizen has been in the custody of CBP & ICE for more than 3 weeks, his attorney says.

Now his family fears he may be deported."https://t.co/S7be0SygpF

— Jesse Lehrich (@JesseLehrich) July 23, 2019

I hope the morning I'm about to give up for this doesn't turn out to be a complete waste. Which is a distinct possibility.

xpost The kid has been released, thank goodness. Let this be a lesson to all travelers that when trying to cross a border, but especially the Mexico-US border, while Mexican, particularly in this climate, bring more than your school ID.

I hope the morning I'm about to give up for this doesn't turn out to be a complete waste. Which is a distinct possibility.

― clemenza, Wednesday, July 24, 2019 8:08 AM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I feel like this is a "fool me twice, shame on me" type situation so personally I'm keeping my distance.

I'll hold the football, Charlie Brown

Wtf at the scheduling here
So many people are commuting right now

it's okay he's already explaining why he won't say anything worth hearing

says he will respect Barr gag order of a couple days ago

Good morning!!!

I thought I heard that the 18 year old facing deportation actually had various other forms of i.d. on him at the time, or is taht another case of false deportation? Story I was hearing was that he was on the way to a football championship and showed papers that the authorities claimed to be forged.
THis guy?
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/a-u-s-citizen-has-been-in-immigration-custody-for-weeks.html

I heard the story on a podcast earlier.

Grampy Bob needs to turn up his hearing aid.

Mueller: the only facts in the world are facts described by words in the specific order I arrange them. I am unparaphrasable.

"Respectfully, Respectfully!"

that last dude was an ass but he raised a good point: where does this 'you cannot indict' language come from?

Mueller is a dope imo

that last dude was an ass but he raised a good point: where does this 'you cannot indict' language come from?

That was effective, yeah. Throwing in "socialists" was laughable, though.

Bob Mumble mouth Mueller

literally nothing is gonna come out of this, idk why Republicans are so fired up about it

i don't know how any of this helps at all.

like they're already parroting the "GOP Presidents can commit unlimited crimes" line which is 100% true

Mueller’s persona was superhero-like while he remained silent. Now that he speaks he’s turned into a fumbling, stay-in-your-lane Clark Kent.

Any event which might finally induce that massive Trumpian coronary we've all been dreaming of is worthwhile for that possibility if no other.

xpost In the article posted a couple of posts back, updated yesterday, he says the only ID he had on him was a Texas ID (state ID?). In the NYMag article his lawyer says that "Galicia was carrying several types of identification when he was stopped at the checkpoint, “including a wallet-sized Texas birth certificate, a Texas ID card and Social Security card.” So someone is being inaccurate. Now, whether he was *expected* to have other ID, that's a question. He didn't actually cross any border, did he? Anyway, fuck these border assholes, but this sounds like some crossed wires due to forms his mom filled out incorrectly.

Mueller's distinction between "yes," "no," and "I refer you to the report" is puzzling.

the only variable that seems to account for it is the length of the question

Louie Goober here to save the day

The only thing I can imagine coming from this is the GOP assholes self-goaling by goading him into getting more aggressive.

lol THE LOVERS

Jesus, that's weak--guy accuses him of pursuing injustice, and "I take your question" is the response.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jVsxsWgYMWk/TUjV4S-b60I/AAAAAAAAC38/FxFPiwO10Wc/s1600/Lovers+Moment.JPG

Ridiculous that he won't defend himself or clarify

I like how Bob handled Louie

Weak sauce, he should defend his own team

agreed. I get the idea—that he feels the question is undeserving and refuses to dignify it. But "I take your question" isn't gonna play as a soundbite or do anything to beat back these conflict of interests accusations

then again *nothing* he could say wld discourage any of these ppl, Trump will be back with "total exoneration" in 30 mins

honestly why does anyone care about this hearing

I’m feeling nostalgic for Michael Cohen’s snark

I do don't think Mueller read the report

otm

he said that no one person reviewed the entire thing, right?

honestly why does anyone care about this hearing

It's a handy way for me to categorize the various Republicans: who's loudest? who's most sanctimonious?

I would have thought that Mueller would want to make sure the contents of his report were clarified. Otherwise what was the point of the 2 year investigation. Seems like the outcome people feared as worst case scenario.
Or is this going to get any more worthwhile.

Seems pretty frustrating so far.

If I thought the Dems will start hearings I'd have more confidence in this tweet:

This format is awful, but Democrats are directly laying out the details of Mueller's findings on obstruction, while the Republicans are waaaaay off in the weeds asking about a flurry of peripheral matters.

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) July 24, 2019

That last exchange--appearances are everything--did not go well.

between Mueller and whom?

Jordan? The guy who was so annoying in the Cohen hearings. I know it's what the tweet above calls a peripheral matter, but there's a chance that this whole hearing will be reduced to how Mueller comes across, and I don't think he came across very well there.

Just remembered that Trump isn't watching today. (Insert appropriate images, YouTube clips, GIFs, etc.) Was curious as to what--or how--he was tweeting.

"It has been reported that Robert Mueller is saying.."

Rep @CedricRichmond: 'it's fair to say that the president tried to protect himself by asking staff to falsify evidence relevant to an ongoing investigation?'
Mueller: 'I would say that's generally a summary'

— Marc Caputo (@MarcACaputo) July 24, 2019

jesus Bob's Big Boy grew up to be an asshole

Any event which might finally induce that massive Trumpian coronary we've all been dreaming of

I don't get this. Outrage (or its simulation) is his natural state.