i wish there was a little more to it, but it's still quite nice
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link
The verse melody reminds me of the verse melody from Hilary Duff‘s “Come Clean.”
― the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link
It's a solid album track.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link
they share a recognition that Taylor is at her best when the melodic charisma of the top line, the emotional vulnerability of the vocal performance and the relatability and detail of the lyrics all come together.
part of what makes "you need to calm down" frustrating to me is that it has a really strong top line, but the rest of it has nothing else you describe and that's precisely why it sucks
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:00 (four years ago) link
Hella lotta info about the track here: https://variety.com/2019/music/news/taylor-swift-the-archer-instagram-chat-video-1203277338/
― the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 04:38 (four years ago) link
Kind of a cool song tbh
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link
Another slow one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvUAzpn48xA
― groovypanda, Friday, 16 August 2019 07:40 (four years ago) link
her songwriting seems to have just fallen...completely off? idk it seems wild to me that the same person that made "holy ground" and "treacherous" and "all too well" is now churning out rote, hackneyed stuff like this
― monotony, Friday, 16 August 2019 11:44 (four years ago) link
It's pretty sad.
― ☮ (peace, man), Friday, 16 August 2019 12:05 (four years ago) link
“the archer” and this are both great idgi
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 16 August 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link
this song specifically sounds like the alt-country record i've been wanting her to make for years. i don't hear rote or hackneyed at all, seems like at least part of this album is gonna be red as recorded by jack antonoff
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 16 August 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link
maybe i'm just being cynical but it sounds almost like a song calculated to be put next to "thinking out loud" on a wedding playlist or something
― monotony, Friday, 16 August 2019 12:33 (four years ago) link
i mean fair, that's not not what's going on here
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 16 August 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link
can i go... where. you. gooooo
imo her singing improved again
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 16 August 2019 13:05 (four years ago) link
I was surprised by how much I liked the verse to this, but then in the chorus I started cringing at her head voice (which I just dislike) and the way it ended with the word "lover" isolated like it's clever or some shit, and then the bridge devolved entirely into the Will Ferrell/Rachel Dratch SNL sketch and I ended up scowling out the window wishing for something to punch
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 16 August 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link
lol
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 16 August 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link
Yeah, the bridge is really weak
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 16 August 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, August 16, 2019 12:13 PM (forty-three minutes ago)
i like this song but i also felt like this
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 August 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link
Musically it's one of the strongest things I've heard from her since "Teardrops On My Guitar"; it's just kind of a shame about... everything else
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 16 August 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
max martin is apparently not on this record at all
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link
I dig this new song but yes the bridge is a drag
― L'assie (Euler), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
She just posted the tracklisting, Dixie Chicks on the album
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link
this tracklist leaked about a week ago and i was praying that “death by a thousand cuts” would be a real taylor swift song
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 16 August 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link
i like this song, it reminds me of widowspeak
― maura, Friday, 16 August 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link
"with every guitar string scar on my hand" is such an awkwardly phrased line and I don't believe someone somewhere couldn't have suggested an edit
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 17 August 2019 08:17 (four years ago) link
Brad's review of 'Red' is possibly the best piece of music writing I read this year.
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/taylor-swift-red/
― Nourry, Monday, 19 August 2019 11:27 (four years ago) link
if you'd told me there was a Chan Marshall credit on "Lover" I'd have believed you.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 20 August 2019 03:55 (four years ago) link
thank you nourry <3
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link
apparently the "hey kids! spelling is fun!" bit is removed from the album version of "me!" lol
― ufo, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:51 (four years ago) link
WTF?? That was the best part of the song!!!
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link
I have apparently been schooled w/r/t my skepticism of this idea (when it was floated earlier): https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8527959/taylor-swift-re-record-old-songs-regain-control-scooter-braun
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 22 August 2019 01:48 (four years ago) link
Pitchfork will have to review the albums all over again! LOL
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 22 August 2019 01:49 (four years ago) link
Taylor been hanging out w/Jeff Lynne, Squeeze, and Prince's ghost, I see.
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 August 2019 03:38 (four years ago) link
Sounds like she may have to wait 5 years from each album’s release to redo its songs (depending on the actual particulars of her contract): https://variety.com/2019/music/news/taylor-swift-scooter-braun-re-record-big-machine-songs-explained-1203309904/
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 22 August 2019 04:06 (four years ago) link
LOL that would mean she can currently re-record everything through to 1989.
― Tim F, Thursday, 22 August 2019 06:37 (four years ago) link
Look What You Made Me Do (Again)
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 August 2019 07:43 (four years ago) link
Doesn't everybody leave their Christmas lights up until January?
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 22 August 2019 12:38 (four years ago) link
“cruel summer” is amazing
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link
her idea of pop music has been updated but is still kinda bland from a production perspective
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
I'm not sure Taylor Swift is who I ever would expect modern pop production from at this point
This album is definitely good and better than the singles portended, not sure where it ranks among her post-Red catalog yet
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link
I think I have tickets for the “private” show here in Paris next month? she’s playing the Olympia, a 2000 seat venue. she’s only played one show here ever, on the Speak Now tour, besides promos (which this one is too, though they’re making a few tickets available for the public).
― L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
did it leak?
― Nourry, Thursday, 22 August 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
Not that I'm aware of.
For sure the production ain't fresh. "False God" sounds like it could've been recorded by Carly Rae Jepsen in 2011.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link
"if i was man / then i'd be the man" ... not really her best writing...
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link
It leaked a couple of hours ago
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link
this album gets good at paper hearts i think... too many H&M beats in the first half
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
I agree the bridge sucks, which is funny because I heard T.Swift say in a recent interview(?) that "Lover" is/might be her favorite song she's ever written, and that she loves writing good bridges and she was really proud of the bridge on this one.
― ilxor, Friday, 23 August 2019 00:45 (four years ago) link
I do miss the Cornelia Street Cafe.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link
Is that meant for this thread?
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 August 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link
The album has a song called "Cornelia Street," observed from a car.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2019 01:34 (four years ago) link