Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

... of embarrassment, if nothing else.

I was talking this nutcase in the park this morning. And he says you know what is coming next in this country? And I thought he was going to say a neolib dictatorship with half the brittania unchained lunatics in key positions in the cabinet. No he says Socialism, and he didn't mean a Corbyn government. So possibly he has a slight misunderstanding of socialism means!

TS Nutcase in the Park vs. Man in Pub.

I voted Labour in 1997 still half convincing myself that Blair's position was at least partly a PR act or that he'd be balanced out by the Party's left. That was the last time I voted Labour in a GE for 20 years.

Nigel Evans, the Conservative backbench MP, told the BBC: “The only thing that’s certain is that Larry the Cat is going to stay in place as the Downing Street cat.

“Prime ministers come and go, Larry remains in place.”

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didn't blair have the no.10 cat drowned or something?

Same here (as NV), except I've voted Labour in every GE since, Corbyn is my MP after all.

failing to repudiate austerity & punching left... LDs clearly think the route to more seats runs through tory-LD home county marginals

I hope Ellie's book has more to offer than account of the New Labour years. She might have interviewed ppl and all but I've read thousands of posts along those lines.

xp = I hope Ellie's book has something on Blair drowning the no 10 kitty.

They're right. (xp)

I may have voted for EMil in 15 tbh, depends whether I got drunk enough on the day to forget the racist monolith

2001: a race odyssey

2015: a race odyssey obv, goddammit

Boris definitely strikes me as the cat kicking type #prayforlarry

I was one of them young people on twitter who was inspired to vote through Iannucci's avuncular encouragement to get out there and use your vote for goodness sake! And I voted for either Britain First or UKIP in every election since.

failing to repudiate austerity & punching left... LDs clearly think the route to more seats runs through tory-LD home county marginals

FWIW I think she's right on this, a lot of Labour seats either have unassailable majorities or are in areas where the LibDems trail heavily. I mean look at all that blue:

http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground/targets/liberal-democrat

And if they've any self-awareness they'll realise that they're still toxic with a substantial section of Labour voters. The wavering Tories are easier pickings.

strap in folks, it's con/dem coalition time again

Jo Swinson, the new Lib Dem leader, has again ruled out working with Jeremy Corbyn, branding him a Brexiter who cannot be trusted to fight for a second referendum to keep the UK in the EU.

She said her door was open to MPs from other parties who wanted to work towards a second referendum.

But she said the Lib Dems could not join a pact with Labour while Corbyn was leader, even in the event of a hung parliament.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Swinson was scathing about Labour’s Brexit approach, even though the party has now said it would support a referendum on any deal put forward.

“There is nothing to suggest Jeremy Corbyn can be trusted on Brexit or that he will campaign to remain. Let’s remember in the last referendum he went on holiday for two weeks in the middle of it. Forgive me for not believing Jeremy Corbyn’s newly mouthed words on Brexit. He can barely bring himself to say the words people’s vote,” she said.

“I’m not supporting Jeremy Corbyn. If we are to have an election I would fight as Lib Dem leader as the party of remain that hasn’t equivocated on this like Jeremy Corbyn.

“There are plenty of people in the Labour party that I can work with, that I do work with. But Jeremy Corbyn is a Brexiteer. He cannot be trusted on Brexit. That is abundantly clear.

“And to boot he is somebody that is failing to deal with the scourge of antisemitism in his own party.”

can’t wait for the PLP to use this as a casus beli for another failed coup

'corbyn is a brexiteer, so it is with a heavy heart that i must ally with the party of brexit to govern the nation'

finally, a grown up

Lib Dems posting as they normally do

now I'm super excited to tie myself in knots defending the coming LibLab coalition

the LibDems really do inflame my murderous tankie sensibilities, their politics suck so much shit and they have that added smugness that they are the nice party.

Kind of hoping for the UK to crash out on the 31st of October tbh, even if I get kicked out. Shit's getting tedious.

tbf how has she explicitly said she'll work with the tories, except for doing it last time and voting for all their policies

niceness was invented as a weapon of hegemonic class oppression so they're not wrong

pom otm except I hope you don't get kicked out obv. Gonna start a "Get On With It EU" Twitter meme

Kind of hoping for the UK to crash out on the 31st of October tbh, even if I get kicked out. Shit's getting tedious.

― pomenitul, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

How can you not be entertained?

I am, not gonna lie.

But it's only slightly less entertaining when viewed from abroad.

slightly prefer the catharsis of fully cancelled brexit but one or the other please yes

I am sure this will get renewed for another season. What are the current odd on the uk still being in the EU at Christmas?

Speaking of renewal, new PM, new thread.

this one isn't that old and i don't think we should frame our narrative around the soon-to-be-briefly-incumbent

Boris Johnson is widely expected to be crowned new Tory Party leader later this morning

from Newsnow - the news aggregation site that isn't quite sure what a constitutional monarchy is.

PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

^^^new thread started

I am sure this will get renewed for another season. What are the current odd on the uk still being in the EU at Christmas?

It's quite likely, yes. I'm just measurelessly irritated at the prospect of Johnson's Trumpster bluff 'working' on the EU. Having to pretend that you're suspending disbelief when faced with such a coleus (get it? it's Latin) is a humiliating chore.

Possibly the only Labour seat the Lib Dems might be able to realistically take from them is Alex Sobel's. Maaaybe a couple in London (lol Hoey).

I suspect that post-Hoey relief might give Labour a little electoral oomph next-time-around but on the other hand (1) Vauxhall must be rapidly shifting demographically (those towers can't be entirely vacant money-laundering vehicles, right?) and (2) in any case middle-aged gays are the worst possible arch-neoliberals and, as my fieldword at the RVT indicates, not all that bright.

Possibly the only Labour seat the Lib Dems might be able to realistically take from them is Alex Sobel's. Maaaybe a couple in London (lol Hoey).
― nashwan, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

surely not? He is an ilx fave #armAlexSobel

Fresh from making Ian Austin a Trade Envoy to Israel, May has just appointed John Mann as "independent advisor on antisemitism". Audacious trolling on your last day.

scruton just got re-hired as well right?

NEW PM NEW THREAD HE REITERATED SELF-IMPORTANTLY: PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

We're all gonna die.