Queer Eye For The Straight Guy WTF

the whole wanda episode left a bit of a bad taste - the usual method for creating a good episode just seemed to go wrong in all kinds of unexpected ways and i ended up feeling kinda worried for the relationship between her and her daughters, she just seemed so shocked that her perception of them being three inseparable buddies was just not how they saw it at all

lmao at karamo just flat-out refusing to engage with / being horrified by rural life in farmer matt’s episode

thought Wesley's shooter could've at least said something like "I felt justified at the time doing what I did, but man seeing that you're still in a wheelchair from something I did in heat of the moment gives me pause". That Wesley still got closure from that encounter...props to him.

From the Karamo article, Wesley and the guy were there for 3 hours talking.

the way that shooting went down still seems v bizarre to me

it’s cool Wesley forgave him but i’d be like, “ok and all with your explanation but you fuckin SHOT me, dude. a LOT of times. over nothing? what the hell!?”

exactly! Def seems like being the victim of the shooting changed him a lot more (for the better) than being the shooter changed the other guy.

maybe that's the defense you build up to deal with what you did to someone. "I didn't want to do it but he left me no choice" or whatever his rationale was.

WOW. Okay. I got a very strong "anger" read off Wanda during that confrontation with her daughters. I could FEEL the defensive shutters slamming closed. Also, Antoni is my fave and I love him but he was not ready for that kitchen scene with her. He wasn't just pushing her--he was in his own feelings.

And then her almost violent renunciation of the drill team at the end, which hadn't been discussed with her assistant directors? That's not a transition plan. That's just plain rude and selfish--and I think still coming from anger.

All in all, a strange episode.

otm

the thing Wanda said after the meeting w her daughters to Karamo, that she was surprised that her daughters “required” love was very telling.

her subtext being “i gave them everything but obviously THAT wasn’t enough”

super defensive

Yessssssss very much so. Not...good.

should there still be a bracket wherein they admit that the life makeover didn't work this time? because it can't all be "yes queen" success.

MY HEART (this out of the blue japanese queer eye).

I want every season of QE to be in Japan from now on.

just want to say antoni was already my #1 dreamboat (karamo an extremely close #2), but last week a friend pointed me to antoni’s instagram and i literally fucking died

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Oh Yoko <3

Beautiful woman. Great episode.

Antoni doesn't know how to flip a tarte-tatin.

the first two japans are excellent, the final one is… distressing

oh... :(

I'm on Kan's episode. He speaks English with an English accent which is very cute.

They introduced the translator at the end of episode one and she's not been on screen again, which is a bit of a shame because she looked cute and fun. Since she's in the room I'd like her to be onscreen. Not all of the time but included. Maybe that's a minor niggle.

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Love that you are posting to it, mate.

i dont know if i can sustain this much crying for a whole season

jed <3

i dont know if i can sustain this much crying for a whole season

right? this japan collection is the best so far imo

I didn't know there were so few episodes and blew it all on the first night.

I loved it so much.

(I also felt it was off that the translators never appeared but the editing seemed smooth enough).

isn’t it great? the cutting is so seamless that it really feels like they all just understood one another.

antoni is like dream yaoi in some episodes.

When it's at its best this show really does make you want to be a better person.

Does that sound naff?

nope

doesn’t sound naff at all. they really do help bring out the best in people in subtle ways, rather than going berserk with mega transformations that hide the real person. as a viewer, it feels possible for us to improve with similar small changes, which makes the whole shebang relatable.

They introduced the translator at the end of episode one and she's not been on screen again, which is a bit of a shame because she looked cute and fun. Since she's in the room I'd like her to be onscreen. Not all of the time but included. Maybe that's a minor niggle.

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yeah she seemed much cooler than the fairly irritating japanese host, who is the only downside thus far (n.b. japan has some of the best reality hosts in tv history, viz. torichan, becky etc)

I was thinking it was a shame they didn't get one of the panelists from Terrace House to really up the netflix synergy.

god there were some moments in this mini season thingy. basically the whole yoko ep obv, but for whatever reason the bit where makoto was sobbing in karamo's arms had me weeping

same.

what a horrible life those two were living in that hellish apartment though. i hope it works out for them but i have my doubts.

man the Kan episode broke me

I thought the Makoto episode was going to go in all sorts of different directions. Really hope it works out for them. All four episodes were good, I thought.

doesn’t sound naff at all. they really do help bring out the best in people in subtle ways, rather than going berserk with mega transformations that hide the real person. as a viewer, it feels possible for us to improve with similar small changes, which makes the whole shebang relatable.

I was just thinking about this while watching Kae's episode. When Tan talked about showing off her body more, I worried that he was going to put her in something figure-hugging, but no. Still pretty baggy and loose, but just more stylish than she wore before. It was a really sympathetic makeover.

yeah, it seems (at least on the whole) that they enhance people rather than change them.

I rewatched the episode with Tammye from the church in the town of Gay (lol) because I was introducing my mum to QE and it just broke me again. She does a little speech at the end about them all, one by one, and it is just overwhelming. Antoni is a wreck during it. It's definitely worth a rewatch if you haven't seen it for a while.

although there are some funny moments in that episode like where Antoni says that usually he teaches people to cook but he'd like tammye to cook for him. oh yeah? don't get me wrong, I adore him and find him indispensable but it will never stop being funny that he's doing the cooking lessons.

Think they'd ever do follow-ups on people? I found the Kitchen Nightmare episodes where they checked back on restaurants really interesting. Some ppl really took the advice to heart and ran with it, some thought it was bullshit and they knew better than Gordon, some wanted to make the changes but just couldn't for various reasons.

what a horrible life those two were living in that hellish apartment though. i hope it works out for them but i have my doubts.

I felt this way by the end of the episode. It seemed like they were giving each other assurances of love because they knew that was what was expected of them by the end of the programme, but in fact they didn't seem any closer than before. Of course, this could be me misinterpreting Japanese body language.

I had my doubts too but happy to report that they appear to be doing well - Makoto even put out a new EP that his wife sings on: https://www.bustle.com/p/makoto-yasuko-from-queer-eye-are-still-together-theyre-making-new-music-19291424

Love the way his instagram went from sad drawings of him visiting onsens by himself to much happier art + so many new photos of Yasuko: https://www.instagram.com/chibamakoto/

The Fab Five are literal angels at this point.

Oh, hooray! I am so happy to see that.

new season June 5

First episode of the new season was pretty odd. It seemed to me that the person they were trying to help had some serious chemical issues going on in her head. She clearly did some cleaning up of her life in-between the visit from the fab five and the follow-up. Maybe there are medical privacy issues that prevented them from discussing some of what happened?

they did seem to cut something during the daughter's talk w kuramo that felt important/like it would've given clearer context

I don't think I've ever seen someone who looks more like a 'Terri', like if I was asked to give an association for that name it would be p much her

I loved her collection of horse prints in the hallway, should've kept those in the redesign

Wonder where all her trinkets are now. there was a lot of stuff!

i loved that karamo seemed to have really helped start mending things btw thr daughter & terri

and that terri went w her natural hair was kind of huge <3