things you once thought socially acceptable which now horrify you to remember

It is grammatically correct and concise; it just doesn't seem to be used that way that frequently in English. Idk why; I'm guessing because it's hard to distinguish from singular "you"? xp

it is good enough

this is america

"what would you consumers like to order?"

english is spoken in i dunno how many variant dialects including mine throughout the world and id guess most of them have a version of personal pronouns for third person plural, i dunno how prevalent the same pronouns are throughout other languages but id think its safe to say they exist because there has popped up bytimes a use for them

donegal youse
mayo ye
dublin yiz

im prob missing ten more just from the free state tbh

the industry term for a group of intellectually handicapped adults in an arts based program is "consumers"

how dyou even start to give out to unruly kids without it, just to give one crucial example

tbh I will use "youse" and "y'all" in varying contexts but I don't think I police my social solecisms to the extent of some ilxors

I'm guessing because it's hard to distinguish from singular

That's true, but in French (among other languages) 'vous' can also be both singular and plural depending on the context, and it's never been a problem to my knowledge (although Quebec also has 'vous autres', which adds an extra hue). I think 'what would you guys like to order?' is ultimately about showing your customers that you don't stand on ceremony. There's a cultivated informality to it, which can come across as annoying in some contexts (not all), irrespective of the idiom's gender politics.

There is a solution, however: bringing back thou/thy/thee. Who's with me?

id advocate sooner for the party thus addressed to not be looking so hard to police the social solecisms of others, or

you can't let pricks like this get to you tbh

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I don't think it's a terrible instinct to not enjoy giving offence tho

Yeah, I thought about "vous" too and couldn't really put my finger on why it seems different. xps

I mean, if addressing a group in a professional setting, I don't think plural "you" would be hard to understand and I'm p sure it's what I'd use. "You guys" obv informal.

Thought these days the preferred word is “guests”

A tangent, but as a native English speaker it really infuriates me when a cashier finishes with a customer and immediately shouts "Following guest!" "Next guest!" is weird (because you wouldn't shout "Next!" at someone who was truly your "guest") but at least grammatically sound. But "following" without an article ("the following guest") is fucking horrific, and should never be used as a form of direct address.

Yeah, I'd definitely avoid 'you guys' unless I'm speaking to people I know.

xp

Wtf, I don't think I've ever heard a cashier shout "following guest!". Is this really a thing in the NYC area??

lads will ye follow me please thanks have we everyone grand lads grand

it may be that the republican party isnt staying awake deciding these issues id say

Wtf, I don't think I've ever heard a cashier shout "following guest!". Is this really a thing in the NYC area??

Christ, that's grim.

I feel like there are a lot of chain stores that do the "following guest" thing. uniqlo? gap?

..... next?

Still ‘next customer’ in my nearby Uniqlo.

You there.

Get over here!

On one of the other griping threads I talked about how my local NYC market's cashiers have been instructed now to just shout "Following!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qXM0nZq0RA

i hear a lot of "following guest" even when you're just walking by places!

I have never heard this said out loud.

I've never ever heard "following guest;" that must be an east coast thing. West coast they just yell "next" or mayyyybe "next customer" but usually they just fucking stand there and take forever until the line snakes around the goddamned store and maybe people get pissed and leave.

https://i.imgur.com/MDiEUWv.jpg

I am googling about the "following guest" and all the articles written about it are new york adjacent.

I hear it so often here in NYC that I couldn’t tell you when I first heard or where I last heard it or in what particular establishments I am likely to hear it. Just used to it at this point, although it did bother me at first.

yeah, it seems very common for me to hear that. And uniqlo was one I saw written about that uses "guests".

If someone stood up for the women during a corporate meeting I would make a kneejerk shitty remark because that is weird.

"I can help the next customer" and "I can help who's next" are standard here.

You still hear those as well

I can help who's next is standard

this is an 'in line' 'on line' thing

sounds like one of those weird things where nyc people think it’s normal and everyone else finds it odd

like the concept of one table of diners paying on more than one check

that is...not odd? like i was very familiar with "we don't separate more than 4 checks" type policies way before i moved to NYC. at the two restaurants i worked at, in georgia and ohio, i separated checks all the time, the POS software had that capacity standard, etc.

in manhattan it seemed like I was speaking a foreign language if we wanted a two person table divided into two checks!

sorry, original post reversed it. everywhere else divides, nyc seems more of a “settle up with friends” region as a general rule of thumb

how would you tip in that insta- *taken out by sniper*

At first i thought by "following guest" that you all meant the cashier was announcing to their colleagues that they would be accompanying the customer around the store.

"Next please" - polite, concise.

"I can help the next customer" - I could have paid and left in the time it takes to say this.

"Following guest" - what the hell is this abomination.

'Following guest' sounds like a perfect example of I-am-totally-not-a-replicant-trying-to-blend-in.

Do the places that have automated 'next till' systems still say 'following guest'? Because it would sound even weirder coming from a recorded voice, wtf is wrong with 'next customer please'?

i say "i can help who's next" but i haven't thought my way into it, have no argument for it, and don't partic like it. maybe i'll strip down to NEXT. sometimes i say WHAT CAN I GET FOR YOU over a longer distance from counter to customer than is really appropriate.

otoh i have consciously adopted "y'all" despite living in a solid "you guys" state; perhaps this is dorky but it is also one syllable, like "vous", and it's not like you have to put on a voice to say it. the future, imo

saying "chicks"

the tough one for me is "chick" which i got all the way into my thirties with all friends of both genders using casually and lately has proven genuinely offensive to lots of people

Fuck that. Can't just let this slide by unquestioned. Normal people say "chick". It is 100% abnormal and weird to get worked up over it.

yeah it's a perfectly reasonable way to refer to baby chickens, wtf society