Which artists legacies have improved/worsened during the 2010s?

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speaking of which, how is Huey Lewis faring these days?

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 19 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

he's been doing better ever since it became hip to be square

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Friday, 19 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

I heard that “working for a living” song in a big record/cd store the other day

brimstead, Friday, 19 July 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

Funny People is def Apatow’s shark-jumping moment

Οὖτις, Friday, 19 July 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

It's in the first episode of the new season of Stranger Things.

Fun fact: it didn't even make the top 40! Its highest chart position was #41 in 1982.

xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 19 July 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this sounds weird in a way because I feel like the Beatles legacy is still huge

but John Lennon as a solo artist I feel like isn't nearly as well regarded or talked about? (whereas there's been a reappraisal of McCartney, esp McCartney II)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

Haha. I was just thinking about John Lennon in regards to this topic and CTRL+F'd "Lennon" before I even read this latest reply.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

Lennon's solo material basically = "Imagine" in the popular consciousness, and there's been a huge amount of backlash to that song

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

Lennon has become the Lennon Legend/Greatest Hits artist that McCartney was for a long time, rightly or wrongly

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

wrongly, mostly

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link

"Imagine" def. one of the most insufferably covered songs that shouldn't really be covered, let alone as much as it's been covered.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

How's Beck holding up?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

Lennon has also been low-key CANCELLED by some millennials because spousal abuse.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

I feel like if he had survived into the 80s and had a chance to do some shitty new wave/synthy albums his stock would be higher with millennials these days

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

Lennon's legacy for many also been reduced down to inspirational quote memes.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

--Bob Marley

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

xxp new wave Lennon would have probably ruled, IMO

Auld Drink of Misery (zchyrs), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

feel like he's the type whose politics would have really gotten bad with age

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

At least he died before he got to collaborate with Jeff Lynne

crumhorn invasion (Matt #2), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

also this is hopefully the wisdom of age but i used to be impressed with him in interviews when i was a kid like oh what a provocative smart guy now he just seems like a dumbo combative dickhead complete so far up his own butt

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

feel like he's the type whose politics would have really gotten bad with age

idk, would've depended on whether he and Yoko stayed together imo

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

But would Ono be Ono if Lennon had lived? I mean, getting together with him sidetracked her career in a pretty major way. If he'd stuck around, he might have overshadowed her even more than he did by dying (the whole professional-widow/keeper-of-the-legacy thing).

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

Lennon would've been fascinating to follow politically. I can't imagine he'd ever be a Republican given his experience getting citizenship, but he'd 100% be the first Beatle to go on Joe Rogan, InfoWars, Howard obviously (maybe even in the 80s), Coast to Coast, anything conspiracy related.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

lennon go on ch

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

I wish we had some signs of experimentation and crazy/weird/noise music from the '79-'80 batch of songs. I remember reading an anecdote from some guy that worked in a music store in Manhattan when Lennon came in circa '78 and bought a fancy ass new synth because he was excited about new wave.

xp exactly

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

Some weird takes here.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

Lennon probably would have had a good Twitter account

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link

getting together with him sidetracked her career in a pretty major way.

lol waht this is completely wrong

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

I'll just note that Paul's reputation had nowhere to go but up because so many Wings albums were OPP.

The same sympathy for poor Paul albums hasn't extended to George's miserable Ford-era albums

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

Beatles narrative is so tight and self-contained at this point. No reunions (really), no US albums or Beatles Ballads type comps, nothing left in the vaults really. No reason to dig beyond the non-canon stuff for most people, where there's so much Phantom Menace.

bendy, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

Lennon was a spousal abuser?

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

have you heard the song Getting Better

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

I dunno, supposedly he beat Cynthia up.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

When I hear about it, it's just "he abused women, man..."

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

Beatles always had a bit of a reactionary streak in them. “Taxman” and “Revolution” being the most obvious examples

Vape Store (crüt), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

his abuse of Cynthia is pretty well documented, by Lennon himself

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

in his 1980 interview with Playboy...He admits to hitting women—"any woman"—and explains, "That is why I am always on about peace, you see. It is the most violent people who go for love and peace."

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

It seems he maybe at least “evolved” away from that, but did he ever repent?

Vape Store (crüt), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

uh, yeah

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

Here's the full quote from that interview:

PLAYBOY: "'Getting Better.'"

LENNON: "It is a diary form of writing. All that 'I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved' was me. I used to be cruel to my woman, and physically... any woman. I was a hitter. I couldn't express myself and I hit. I fought men and I hit women. That is why I am always on about peace, you see. It is the most violent people who go for love and peace. Everything's the opposite. But I sincerely believe in love and peace. I am a violent man who has learned not to be violent and regrets his violence. I will have to be a lot older before I can face in public how I treated women as a youngster."

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

he also expressed regret in his last radio interview about beating to a pulp a dude at Paul's 21st birthday party who intimated he was a homosexual.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

Beatles always had a bit of a reactionary streak in them. “Taxman” and “Revolution” being the most obvious examples

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I always found it amusing that George, the most 'enlightened' Beatle, was the one that sang about money the most

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpSiB4-og_o

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

Lennon would've been fascinating to follow politically. I can't imagine he'd ever be a Republican given his experience getting citizenship, but he'd 100% be the first Beatle to go on Joe Rogan, InfoWars, Howard obviously (maybe even in the 80s), Coast to Coast, anything conspiracy related.


I can’t, um, imagine this happening at all. Double Fantasy was about (at least in part), “Whew, we survived the ‘60s! Now I’m just gonna chill and observe from a distance” (see: “Watching the Wheels”).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

yeah, doesn't seem likely to me either, he was not a conspiracy nut

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

considering he was spied on and followed by the US & UK govt I can't imagine he wouldn't at least be a 'skeptic'
Don't think he had a Morrissey heel turn in him tho

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

there was a lol NRO piece a few years ago positing Lennon as Reagan Democrat based on comments he made in that 1980 radio interview: attacking conservatives "on the left."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

He really didn't live that long, and changed a hell of a lot in those years. Really hard to say where he'd have gone. I'd like to think he wouldn't end up angry old white guy. Too good a bead on the culture and too suspicious of himself, I'd hope.

bendy, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link

if he lived just 5 years longer I'm positive he would've gone on Howard or at least been a fan

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

John and most definitely not Paul would've been the one to replace Kurt at the dumb 2012 Nirvana reunion concert

del griffith, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link


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