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didn't realise this was out yet - Brian Hibbs running the 2018 bookstore numbers:

Our #8 publisher in the Top 750 is DC Entertainment.
This is, frankly, shocking to me. For the first decade-plus I have been doing these charts, DC’s attention to backlist had naturally rendered them the #1 publisher…. With a bullet! And even when, the last few years, they lost the #1 spot to Scholastic, they were still majorly, significantly always at least #2.

weird how if you fire the two employees most responsible for building the company's backlist from zero over the previous three decades, and aim at selling your own re-re-rebooted IP only on Wednesdays, your sales might go down?

Year # of placing titles Unit sales Calculated Retail price
[2003-2014 skipped]
2015* 119 1,074,304 $21,701,088
2016* 117 1,234,047 $23,203,071
2017 101 827,544 $15,234,525
2018 47 360,414 $7,810,753

6% of DC's annual book sales still come from three 1980s Alan Moore books, two of which they stole from him and his co-authors.


One of Karen Berger’s books is Dark Horse’s 3rd best-seller in bookstores: “Anthony Bourdain’s Hungry Ghosts” with just over 14k. RIP, man.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 19 July 2019 08:13 (four years ago) link

and aim at selling your own re-re-rebooted IP only on Wednesdays

yesterday: brain genius announcing to panels at SDCC that he's mad at the collections department for proposing and executing financially successful reprint projects bcz he only wants to sell new stuff that people don't like, instead of stuff that people enjoy

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 22 July 2019 00:45 (four years ago) link

I saw a headline about that but I didn't actually click through and read it because I think it gave me a mini-stroke.

xp lol, typical

if they were at all intelligent, the main point would be to create comic plots that are easily collected, with the real success being enough demand to keep a portion of new storylines in print in collected form as new classics.

or in the case of MAD, the ability to rely on the extensive back catalog of material to print topical one-offs or prestige collections by era/topic/author. some completely obvious concept like "movie parodies of the oscar winners of X" or just shoving the Star Wars parodies out on the newsstand any time a new SW project comes out. they did exactly that in the mid/late 90s when the original movies were rereleased to theaters and I think I wore out my copy!

hell, just throw the old collections back into print. I was introduced to MAD through one of the early printings of the "Son of MAD" collections that was at my grandparents' house, probably bought by my dad or uncle. I need to hunt around, I had another paperback collection as a kid and bought a ton of issues starting with, I think, a Gremlins 2 parody

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 22 July 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link

I got the digital collection of a Donald Trump thing they did a few years back to coincide with the election, and there was some decent material but it bizarrely didn't grab any deeper back catalog stuff, which definitely exists.

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 22 July 2019 02:50 (four years ago) link

in the case of MAD, the ability to rely on the extensive back catalog of material to print topical one-offs or prestige collections by era/topic/author. some completely obvious concept like "movie parodies of the oscar winners of X" or just shoving the Star Wars parodies out on the newsstand any time a new SW project comes out. they did exactly that in the mid/late 90s

otm

completely insane that they close down the entire history of Mad in NYC, restart from scratch in Burbank with an EIC so expensive they have to lay him off a year later, and don’t have a plan around monetising the generations of goodwill around their content

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 22 July 2019 03:25 (four years ago) link

completely insane DC

Fixed that for you.

I was pondering last night after posting that -- if there was some subscription service where they'd dig up a handful of relevant comics from the whole of the run and you could view them as a daily comics type of thing, it'd be great! Stupid American aggressive posturing toward Iran in the news? Guess what, we've got decades of content! Here's a mini-collection we put together for this week.

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 22 July 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

I honestly don't know why at this point they wouldn't just offer the entire kit and caboodle up to the highest bidder. The only potential downside I can see is if an even worse company bought it.

I'd settle for a high quality scan of a bunch of material well-documented and dropped on archive.org

it looks like there's one issue on there

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 22 July 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link

Fwiw, they did do a huge Star Wars book back around 2007, Mad About Star Wars, that did a great job of compiling that stuff. But having said that, more of this exact type of thing would be fantastic!

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61%2B2OBkbiEL._AC_SY400_.jpg

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 July 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

the highest bidder.

No other bidder would be in any position to do 1/10 of what AT&T can do with it. AT&T just don’t want to do anything with it.

(And obv don’t have any motivating interest in a product that is designed to teach children that corporate-controlled art is a bad thing.)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 22 July 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

can't believe cracked is a more viable brand than mad.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 22 July 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

should license to fanta honestly

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 22 July 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

A properly done version of this, available as a digital download: https://www.amazon.com/Absolutely-MAD-Magazine-50-Years/dp/B000HKMQ64

Vernon Locke, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link

not to get sic on you here but $150 for two discs of unsearchable lo-res scans doesn't strike me as properly done

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 01:22 (four years ago) link

a properly done version of /sic

Vernon Locke, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link

ah i think i get your meaning.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 01:38 (four years ago) link

This (link), but high-rez, searchable and digital. We're on the same page, all good.

I was this shockingly old when I learned that the rest of the EC catalogue is controlled by the Gaines Family. I thought DC had the lot, and was licensing out reprints to Dark Horse, IDW, Fanta etc.

Vernon Locke, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Al Jaffee's on Twitter

Hello, Twitter! It's really me, the one and only Al Jaffee, here to alienate all my friends...

— Al Jaffee (@og_aljaffee) September 25, 2019

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link

i watched some of the chris claremont documentary a few nights back and it turns out that jaffee was family friends with claremont's parents, so they came to him to help him get an internship at Mad... but he wouldn't do it because he said it was no place for a kid! So Jaffee connected Claremont with Stan Lee instead. Quoth Claremont "Once Stan found out I wouldn't have to be paid, I was in."

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

*folds tweet in from both sides*

yup, that's Al

mh, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

Didn't know that about Claremont/Jaffee, great story!

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Marvel bringing back Crazy magazine this week!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

Hold off on the one-shot, though. It's being collected in a couple months alongside a bunch of old-school material.

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

unless his recent illness has slowed him down, Aragones has only missed one issue of Mad in forty years (...)

― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Friday, March 15, 2013 8:22 AM (six years ago)

Sergio's still on an unbroken run after missing that issue in 1967. Dick DeBartolo had been on an unbroken run since Jun 1966, but the new issue of the mostly-reprint version drops next week without him in it.

(Aragones is on 451 issues in a row, DeBartolo's streak ends at 459 issues.)

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 22:51 (four years ago) link

Cool, Hadn't seen this thread before---here's my trib to the original, Kurtzman-edited Mad, with a link to
early 50s pop culture investigator Robert Warshow's account of visit to Mad offices, with his young son Paul, who'd turned him on to thee rag (another link to email conversation saga w mark s and others, from which this sprang):
https://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2019/09/re-landscape-envy-ur-mad.html

dow, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 23:10 (four years ago) link

feels unbelievable that this was only three years ago

https://www.comixexperience.com/savagecritics/retailing/the-case-against-dan-didio

― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, July 5, 2019 5:54 AM (seven months ago)

https://web.archive.org/web/20160729181105/http://www.savagecritic.com/retailing/the-case-against-dan-didio/

Four years.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Saturday, 22 February 2020 01:43 (four years ago) link

It sad, he was a publishor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxoEpVDGvPE

Hot, Now, and Oh-So-Very Wow! (Old Lunch), Saturday, 22 February 2020 02:06 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

RIP Mort Drucker

There is a devastating satirical piece in MAD, it is devastating pic.twitter.com/qpFkicJBxu

— Matt Prigge (@mattprigge) April 10, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 April 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link

Superb caricaturist! we'll miss him.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 10 April 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link

https://www.madcoversite.com/ugoi-mort_drucker.html
love that the accompanying drucker pic is a perfect drucker-ish background character

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 12 April 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

There is such a thing as a spoiler alert!

nickn, Friday, 12 June 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

According to the link it's a parody of Bounty Law.

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:11 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

probably upthread already but https://www.tomrichmond.com/the-tarantino-story-part-3-bounty-law/06/08/2019/

― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:21 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Actually Mad is still going, sort of:

After AT&T acquired Time Warner in June 2018, Mad ended newsstand distribution, continuing in comic-book stores and via subscription, and slashed its new content in standard issues (save for end-of-year specials), with the regular magazine almost entirely utilising curated reprints with new covers, although minimal amounts of new content exist in each issue.
I only know this because I saw a newish issue at a local comic book store the other day.

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:29 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

The issue after the Bounty Law one was the last issue of new material.

(#10, because in a move typically measured and thoughtful of the Nelson / Didio era, AT&T made the entire staff redundant, abandoned the Manhattan office with iirc years left on their lease, and restarted the numbering from scratch with new Burbank hires a year before being surprised that this had somehow cost money.)

― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:45 (fifty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link

It's crazy to me that they did that ^ .. like, did they think what Mad fans wanted was a BREAK with its glorious past? Insane.

Speaking of the past, I have to say that six issues a year of reprints sounds...... pretty good?

I also have to say that a hardback copy of brand-new spoofs of classic movies like The Thing, done by Tom Richmond and Desmond Devlin sounds..... great??

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/claptrap-movie-spoofs-in-a-classic-humorous-vein/x/27777512#/

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

Al Jaffee is 101!!!!!

Otto Insurance (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 14 March 2022 13:33 (two years ago) link

*squints to see what phrase would say if I folded it*

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 14 March 2022 13:40 (two years ago) link

It was on a deep dive into Match Game during the pandemic that I discovered that Dick DeBartolo is gay and married! The news thrilled me more than I thought it would.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Monday, 14 March 2022 13:46 (two years ago) link

s quints to see what phrase would say if I folded it

I can tell you if you pay me

bcz


A FEE IS 11

beepy fridges (sic), Monday, 14 March 2022 15:41 (two years ago) link

I'm getting these issues now by the way and they're great. The last one was themed around dogs and pets. I'm pretty sure the fold-ins are new. They're not by Jaffee but they're terrific.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 14 March 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link

There should be a collected omnibus of fold-ins that miraculously don't cause the page to deteriorate when you fold them. The fold-ins ruined all my old MADs as a kid.

My 7yo daughter has spent the pandemic era getting more and more obsessed with Beano. Kind of wish MAD was still an ongoing thing like it was in the 80s when I read it, as I think it'd be the perfect next step in her comics voyage, and would generally fit her level of cynicism.

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 14 March 2022 16:09 (two years ago) link

It's a shame, because the short-lived 'new' Mad was actually p good.

Still, there's always Viz *s

Ward Fowler, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:14 (two years ago) link

God, she'd love Viz. Not for a couple more years though!

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 14 March 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

https://i.imgur.com/CPSBCN9.jpg

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 28 April 2022 10:46 (one year ago) link

Not directly Al's work but

The regular backpage ad from Sundazed for the latest issue of Ugly Things is a proper Al Jaffee fold-in salute. Little surprise as to what it folds into. pic.twitter.com/UB4EmZQN1Y

— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) April 28, 2022

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 April 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

To me, hinged feet are the apex of visual comedy.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 April 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

Who did the Rogan one (and can we see it pre-fold)?

beepy fridges (sic), Thursday, 28 April 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Sorry sic I failed to capture it before my children lost it somewhere.

The latest edition is A MAD LOOK AT GREED and it is excellent. Honestly I have such a blast reading these. No ads. Just like the old days. The pages are slightly slicker. There are no Don Martin comics sadly, I guess he must have retained republishing rights.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 June 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link


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