Top Gun is on the History Channel?!

oh hell yes, when you've got movies like Val Kilmer in them, you can't lose!

I plan on setting aside a weekend next summer to watch this, the Sonic the Hedgehog movie, and my VHS copy of Prefontaine, and call it my weekend of speed.

probably don't need to explicitly mention it, but I will also be consuming a vigorous quantity of methamphetamine while watching the movies

I had to look it up, but apparently there is no maximum age to be a military pilot. Would have been awesome, though, if this was about Maverick as a commercial pilot.

(Unrelated, just watched Easy Rider last night, and a lot of young Nicholson's smily mannerisms reminded me of Cruise's!)

weird to think Tom Cruise is now three years older than Jack Nicholson was when A Few Good Men was released.

Oh my god !!!
Beach volley, flight jacket and... F14 (how’s that even possible !? CGI, eh?) !!!
I’m a 10 yo boy again...

i was unenthused for about a nanosecond and rhen i saw Maverick and jets and :D

also Jennifer Connelly!

Ed Harris looks like a dusty old sphinx in that opening shot, it looks like he’s made of sand! Bad makeup/lighting job there :(

Yeah J. Connelly is a great surprise !

Harris is only 11 years older than Cruise!

man tom cruise is really dead-set on dying during a stunt on a movie shoot isn’t he

five the people what they want

My main issue with this is that F/A18s are nowhere near F14s in the cool/badass aspect.
Since they CGIed ONE F14 apparently, they should have gone all the way !

didn't know we had fans of Reaganaut Propaganda Shit here

will this one go full Trumpist? ie the big final bombing of [Whatever]istan will be recalled at he last minute.

rmde

Tom Skerritt is still around, why isn't he in this thing? Or Kelly McGillis? Or Anthony Edwards as Cruise's ghost friend who gives him advice?

On the other hand, Manny Jacinto is in it, which is good. On the other other hand, Miles Goddamned Teller is in it.

Maybe the twist is that in this one Tom Cruise is a Russian agent.

america, russia, whatever. maverick's only in it for the jazz

the original top gun is a fairly apolitical movie considering. sure, the impetus for the movie is the sort of fashy enthusiasm for gleaming new technological wonders of warfare sort of à la the italian futurists, but the actual meat of the piece is essentially a sports movie - with simpson/bruckheimer and scott's days of thunder being essentially a poor redo of top gun with the action transposed to the world of nascar.

the whole competitive, locker-room grab-assing aspect of top gun is pure fiction - irl the "top gun" course has no winner and is not a competition. the technical advisor on the picture pointed out that they didn't have their classes take place in air-hangars and there wasn't a culture of broing down in the locker room after training but simpson and bruckheimer wanted more excuses to show the planes and more excuses to see tom and val in their underwear.

there's something very high school about the whole thing. there's also nary a mention of ideology or even any half-baked geopolitical rationale for the skirmishes that take place in the movie. the enemy are clearly of the state socialist kind, with their MIGs with a star painted on them. it's also extremely homoerotic and kitschy

Maybe the twist is that in this one Tom Cruise is a Russian agent.

Nah, Chinese:

There’s a new Top Gun movie coming out. And Maverick is wearing the same leather jacket - only this time it’s Communist Party of China-approved, so the Japanese and Taiwanese flag patches are gone (screenshot on right is from the new trailer)... pic.twitter.com/gUxFNFNUKX

— Mark MacKinnon (@markmackinnon) July 19, 2019

in which miles teller sports a moustache in tribute to his dead dad, anthony edwards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLZQfnFyelTBOQ15kmHSgEbdjzLMWzZpL7&time_continue=25&v=g4U4BQW9OEk&feature=emb_title

my apologies to sic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flURw76_UCU

ok, i haven't watched top gun in a long time, but this is how i remember the best scene:

goose has died. tom cruise is in a hot steamy bathroom back at the base. he’s in his underwear and his head hangs down over the sink. he’s defeated. the captain walks in and sees Maverick looking so down. the captain takes a piss. Maverick starts complaining and whining about life. The captain listens for a bit. then he says, “goddammit Maverick.” and Maverick looks stung but still keeps his head down like a dick. “Don’t tell me about losing Goose. Don’t tell me I didn’t love him. We all loved Goose. GODDAMMIT MAVERICK!” and he pushes Maverick hard in the chest. Maverick’s mad now. they’re both mad. the Captain storms out and Maverick looks at the door closing, breathing hard now.

now i'm going to try to find that scene and compare

hm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmAmb36jafA

top gun maverick is beautifully ridiculous and i enjoyed it quite a lot

the kilmer scene was gr8

I never saw Top Gun and am doing an oscar sweep, figured fuckit i might as well see the original if i have to see the sequel.

I'm sure everyone already knows this as I'm forty years late to the party BUT: better than average direction that makes the aerial sequences comprehensible and enjoyable, Cruise is good and there's solid acting throughout (with the exception of McGillis who seems drugged), but holy shit this script though.
Predictable and dogshit dumb, daddy-do-you-love-me-now, adolescent small dick power fantasy tech fetishism at its worst. it is also super sweaty and homoerotic as all get out. And the music and score sucks!

how dare u

faltermeyer score rules, forks drools

let the record show that my chin is dry

How did you feel when goose died? Maverick takes it pretty hard

Goose's breath taken away, then narcissist Maverick says MY BREATH is ALSO taken away BY THIS LADY

i haven't seen the new one, but i'm really hoping that they realize that Goose is actually alive, but he's been working undercover for the russians for the last 30 years, ever since his "death". maverick is forced to make a difficult decision about whether or not to kill his friend as he is also forced to make some very difficult flight maneuvers in his Boeing F/A 18E/18F Super Hornet in a once in a lifetime adventure you won't want to miss

His spirit (and moustache) are alive

maudlin and slow 'Great Balls of Fire' cover

i think there's an essay to be written (surely HAS been written) about how this film is about failing upward. white male narcissist disobeys orders and is promoted. Meets a woman who he harasses at a bar, follows into a bathroom and is rebuffed, subsequently discovers he's working with her and still refuses to stop harassing her. Disobeys orders again, faces no consequences. Fails miserably following another breach in protocol. Is dressed down by a female co-worker for acting out, throws a fit and is spectacularly rude, somehow still lands an inappropriate relationship with the co-worker. Is directly involved in the death of his co-pilot (clearly following too close in the jetstream of another pilot in an attempt to hog glory and pays the price) but is found to be without culpability. Abandons his romantic partner without notice. Finds support with his boss, his coworkers and the wife of the co-pilot, from whom he STEALS THE DOG TAGS OF HER DEAD HUSBAND AS A MEMENTO. Fails to engage on a subsequent mission and quits but returns to the academy without notice, where he is given a diploma and promptly promoted to active duty. Flies into battle and fails to engage yet again at great risk for all combatants, then returns to the dogfight and murders several people. Is promptly hailed as a hero, reclaims his romantic partner and THROWS HIS DEAD PARTNER'S DOG TAGS INTO THE SEA.

christ what an asshole

but jetfighters tho

AND VOLLEYBALL

he is late to his first date with the woman he's been inappropriately harassing because he refuses to stop playing beach volleyball!

I have all kinds of theories on how the sequel attempts to rehabilitate this nonsensical preening with gravitas. Goose's kid is in this as a flyer right? Presumably Cruise plays the Viper role now? I'm guessing there's a lot of wistful "things have changed... we didn't know any better back then" conversations over beers and a token female flyer. Expectations are super low but i have to admit this really whetted my appetite for the sequel in a "fuck how bad is THIS one gonna be?" way.

Maverick throws pottery with Tom Skerritt

never mind, i'm in

my english teacher in high school loathed Top Gun. he called it "an extended commercial for the U.S. military"

well, yeah

that’s basically on the poster lol

it sure did make the military look like a lot of fun! you do what you want and people love you, then you get to kill.

your friend dies. it makes you more attractive.

fly a cool jet, ride motor bike, wear a dope jacket covered in ridiculous number of patches
i see no prob here

you forgot the volleyball

VOLLEYBALL

and the Loggins

it’s a dumb fucking propaganda movie that is (gasp!) stupid fun! and should not be taken seriously because if you do Tony Scott will come back from the dead & haunt you with jet flyovers for the rest of yr days

i honestly didn't find it to be fun but it has zero nostalgia value to me so that may be the problem.

which was also, come to think of it, pure fantasy!

Yeah, it was good fantasy!

well i wont be disagreeing with a word of that pan obv

obv