At the risk of stating the obvious, the July 2019 US Politics Thread is horse-sh*t

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Phil, I strongly disagree with you about any point regarding Omar's safety.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

xp twitter currently pumping this horseshit out with all the force it can

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

sorry, my sarcasm level was at 100% there. he very obviously did nothing to stop them from chanting it. he wanted it, he got it, and then he stood back for a long time in silence so that it could continue.

oh I knew you were being sarcastic, just didn't know if you were aware that once again he's on camera doing the exact opposite of what he said he did

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

I'm sorry, like, I don't even know who you are, but after giving that post a few seconds of consideration my head basically exploded. She is putting her LIFE ON THE LINE just being a public figure. And regular house members DON'T GET SECURITY, as I confirmed with a basic google search.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

Yam's denial of video'd reality is very Ted Baxterish

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

I’ll never forget the first time I watched @Ilhan receive a death threat. It came in the mail w/ no return address. She opened it, read it, folded it back up and said “I hope they find peace.”

She’s not going anywhere. And neither are we.#IStandWithIlhan pic.twitter.com/iUY8cSB3I4

— joelle (@joellestangler) July 18, 2019

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

it is unbelievable what a coward this bigot is, a guy who leads people to chant his and then turns on them, blaming them for doing it, "hey it wasn't me i tried to stop it." i understand "coward" and "bigot" are a bit redundant maybe. but his willingness to throw his most rabid supporters to the wolves should be pointed out, maybe. i don't know if that would work or if it's even a decent argument against him.

omar little, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

Some Republicans are now criticizing the chant at the rally while maintaining that there was nothing wrong with trump’s tweets that instigated the chant

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

"see we wanted them to say GO back not SEND THEM back, ugh"

omar little, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

this is an interesting choice of words https://t.co/avlMPaf1Al

— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) July 18, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

also demonstrated that he's a coward but not admitting who those initial tweets were directed to. "I think you can figure it out" or whatever. total chickenshit.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

Ilhan Omar on the other hand is incredibly brave for sticking through all this

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

america is becoming unbecoming so they won't be coming

Evan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

the problem with criticizing this administration is that you're left trying to find new ways to explain why the can of creamed corn poured over the steaming pile of dogshit and served as dinner is disgusting; you end up looking the fool stating what should be obvious but even so its hard to be heard over the noise of a third of the country licking the plate

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

Just stared at that tweet saying "WHAT?" for a while. Wow.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

Take a drink every time a republican hearkens back to the abandoned dreams of our forefathers while simultaneously betraying an ignorance of history and how the world works. I'll keep the stomach pump on standby.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

the problem with criticizing this administration is that you're left trying to find new ways to explain why the can of creamed corn poured over the steaming pile of dogshit and served as dinner is disgusting; you end up looking the fool stating what should be obvious but even so its hard to be heard over the noise of a third of the country licking the plate

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, July 18, 2019 2:42 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

the more often you try to explain how disgusting it is to them the more enthusiastic their eating becomes. The more you insist they should feel sick like you do, the happier they are to do it to make you feel sicker.

Evan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

you don't even have to. just look back a few years and ask where all this "if you don't like it, leave!" crap was when they were flinging shit at Obama nonstop. hell, even look back to 2016 when Trump's core issue was that America sucked and he was the only one who could fix it.

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

Also just, I'ma be cool, but how dare you bargain with a woman's life because you think it seems fine? She's not a THING, a bargaining chip to slide across the counter on the chance that it might slightly weaken an enemy. HOW DARE YOU.

― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, July 18, 2019 2:02 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

OTMFM

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, July 18, 2019 1:12 PM (forty-five minutes ago)

OTMFM X2

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

I mean, it's not like some tidal wave of immigrants have flooded the US and taken 'our' jobs en masse. It seems, historically, that there are factors you can point to as the catalyst for reactive uprisings, but what the fuck are these people reacting to aside from, like, rabble rousers on the internet and a dipshit president who says every stupid thing that bubbles out of his brainstem?

honestly, capitalism, they just haven't been told that's it

Middle-aged and older Americans grew up in a United States essentially without immigrants, and I think most don't know that the America of today is the historical norm, and the mid-20th-century clampdown on immigration which they see as "normal" was the anomaly.

Shame the graph can't estimate percentage figures for 1560-1860 too.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

I'm so afraid for her.

For Ilhan and AOC in particular but also for everyone else who confronts hatred right now because of the militarization + relentless othering + paranoia valu combo time that we're in.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

honestly, capitalism, they just haven't been told that's it

they've been told, they just don't like that answer. ironically, one of the things they hate about the squad is that they don't like their answer, which is why people like lindsey graham calls them communists

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

Perfect:

.@IlhanMN: “I believe he is fascist because today even Lindsey Graham defended his comments by saying that if I was wearing a MAGA hat -- if there was a Somali person wearing a MAGA hat -- they would not be deported. But because I criticize the president, I should be deported.” pic.twitter.com/nYXSmVwian

— Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) July 18, 2019

... (Eazy), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

xp: it's been said plenty, but not said by the sources that they listen to.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

IMO Ilhan Omar is made of steel and her constituents (I am one, and I was so proud to vote for her) have been rallying around her all week.

suzy, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

For Ilhan and AOC in particular but also for everyone else who confronts hatred right now because of the militarization + relentless othering + paranoia valu combo time that we're in.

also, that this is one of the only places on earth where you have to worry about many of the hate-filled people also being proud gun owners.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

really glad she used the word "fascist"

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

"fascially-charged"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

fascial cream

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

anyway Trump backing down on this (somewhat) is actually a bit of a surprise...will he bring her up at the next rally? will "Send her back" become the next "Lock her up"? I can't wait to find out!!!

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

plantation-minded fasciitis

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

He got anxious calls from Cabinet members and congressmen who weren't Lindsey Graham.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

He advised sending her back along with her brother who is also her husband.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

I think the ex-husband was the supposed brother? It's hard to follow and I don't really care about the personal lives of politicians as long as they're not leaving a trail of human misery

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

GREAT NEWS

it appears that the US claims to have shot down an Iranian drone that came near a navy ship

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

Weirdly, I had an interaction recently with a woman in North London who said she was interested in American politics. When I said Ilhan was my Congresswoman, she mentioned the brother thing just after bringing up the accusation of anti-Semitism, in this really cutesy/insouciant way. Gross. I asked her if she was reading weird right-wing sites for kicks, because this was total bullshit.

FWIW Omar’s mother died when she was two; her ex-husband is three years younger than her.

suzy, Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link

the right are abominable shitheads everywhere but the american right boggles the damn mind.

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

altho now I've said that i remember that there are canadian conservatives who think that trudeau is fidel castro's son

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

Yeah, before she could go there, I mentioned that I’d grown up in a Jewish enclave, Minnesota’s largest, that’s right in the middle of Omar’s district and largely supportive of her, and where the level of debate about what constitutes AS, and I/P issues, seems more forthright than the current UK discourse. She was a weapons-grade dinner-party Islamophobic fuckwit, obvs.

suzy, Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

I asked her if she was reading weird right-wing sites for kicks

The President of the United States alluded to it and added "we'll find out". You don't necessarily have to read right-wing sites to know about it.

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

This was over a month ago! Nobody in the UK would’ve known about that gross rumour unless they went hunting for negative stories about her.

suzy, Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

Totes real...saw it this morning (don't ask)

She slightly humanized herself later by revealing she never ever cared for Rand Paul.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

waiting with bated breath for an eli valley cartoon of this new meghan development

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

The John Oliver compilation of Meghan's "Can I just say..." comments on her group talk show was both funny and depressing. And perfectly edited with the last clip being someone refusing to yield to her.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

Meghan really strikes me as the 2020 version of Tucker Carlson in '04: Angry at the powers that be ruining 'my conservatism' before eventually embracing the shitheads.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

The President of the United States alluded to it and added "we'll find out".


I’m sure the best people are definitely hard at work not making sure this innuendo drags out indefinitely, since that’s not a grift anyone in the administration knows anything about.

What’s cool about this new one is the “enlightened” angle — “oh goodness, we’re not implying incest, that would be ridiculous. No no this is pure immigration crimes...

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

waiting with bated breath for an eli valley cartoon of this new meghan development

pic.twitter.com/cpYx3w5c8H

— Eli Valley (@elivalley) July 18, 2019

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_xSnYJXUAAN3Bn?format=jpg&name=medium

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 18 July 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

Nancy Pelosi said the WORDS that the President used were racist. But those same words are in the Dictionary. Does that mean that the Dictionary is now racist? Should all Dictionaries be banned since Democrats are offended by words? #TDS pic.twitter.com/AvDtxbtNKH

— Diamond and Silk® (@DiamondandSilk) July 17, 2019

folks we've just been broken on the wheel of logic

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

xp lol I forgot he'd already done it

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 18 July 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link


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