Which artists legacies have improved/worsened during the 2010s?

XP Maybe Willie Nelson has eclipsed him now, but Cash is a perennial, "I don't like Country, but I like..." artist.

Cash, for too many, has been reduced to "Hurt."

Yup, and if you find a fan who goes deeper, they probably only fuck with the Rubin stuff and the Prison albums.

To be fair, he made, like, 300 albums.

OK, 56 studio albums, 11 gospel albums, 9 live albums. There are apparently 98 Willie Nelson studio albums.

Totally anecdotal, but Cash is one of my consistent sellers Discogs - especially the 60s Columbias and any Sun stuff. It never stays around long.

Willie Nelson people just want mid-70s stuff.

every so often i'll be digging in the Willie Nelson section at a local shop and there's another record from the '80s with a garishly awful cover that I've never heard of previously. like i mean i had no idea:

https://img.discogs.com/kJNdrYc-KwmYYaBMuLZvdNJiweE=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-4140660-1428972570-3220.png.jpg

even after his death, idk if scott walker's rep is as high as it was circa 2006's the drift

As a youngish person who got really into Scott shortly before his death, one trend I’ve noticed (if not, especially, partaken in) is an adoption of latter-day Scott by certain online communities as a sort of “hard mode” of music that proves your bona fides if you can successfully get into it, with lots of other stuff held up as lacking in comparison to its sophistication/difficulty. Debatable whether that’s a positive or negative, but it’s certainly a component of his legacy atm.

(My personal favorite, for the record, is a video of some streamer doing a Clone Hero chart of a SOPHIE song where someone in the comments qualifies their praise with “still no Bisch Bosch”.)

That Willie & Merle looks like their chillwave record

remove everything but "seashores" and the background image and it's a sick new balearic album.

ha ha, both otm

Re: Santana
Back in the 80s and 90s he used to play yearly in Tucson at the fair and it felt like one of the biggest events in the world for a bunch of different demographic groups
Of course after Supernatural blew up he was too big to play fairs anymore

I remember in the 90s seeing his band perform as “Abraxas” - it was all the usual suspects- Schon, Areas, Rollie... anyway they were great and it dawned on me how superfluous Santana himself was to the whole operation.

uh let’s not get ahead of ourselves here, his guitar playing is great! Geez this thread

The Abraxas Pool album is one of the worst things I’ve ever heard

Santana's new album is great and has rehabbed his reputation for a lot of people, including me.

Haha I say it with love - Carlos is great. I assume you’re referring to Santana IV? It was a pleasant surprise.

Nah I meant this album https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas_Pool

haven’t listened to IV

oh whoops missed unpersons post

There’s this one photo I’ve seen used on two separate Willie Nelson CDs... except for some reason they photoshopped a headband on one of them

It’s this one: https://www.discogs.com/Willie-Nelson-The-Very-Best-Of-Willie/release/4134708

I SWEAR there’s another willie CD out there with the same photo but sans headband

Haha I say it with love - Carlos is great. I assume you’re referring to Santana IV? It was a pleasant surprise.

No, I’m talking about his 2019 album Africa Speaks. It’s wild as hell.

jay z down, right? i

xp thanks for the tip, this fuckin rules!

I’ll check it out
Xp

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i don’t really get this thread.. what are the artists who’s reputation is the same

the Reverend Horton Heat

i have no idea why but just typing that ^ made me lol

Down: La Roux. Sadly, but when the followup finally arrived it was a disappointment.

feel like evaluating some of these would require time spent at college poster fairs and yeah, Target t-shirt sections... I may not hear that much abt Cash these days in my circles cause everyone already knows he's great and there's no need to announce it, but i'd be shocked if that photo of him giving the finger weren't still making new converts and new memes.

Speaking of La Roux : Ladyhawke had her moment in the late 00s but it seems she has vanished.

you don't really hear a lot about the band Gryphon these days

I wonder about Willie Nelson. Back in the late 70s/80s he felt like a superstar--maybe because my neighbor was one of his roadies. Then in the 90s there were just a bunch of weed and bankruptcy jokes. In the 00s there seemed to be an appreciation forming around his classic albums + new work, but it seems it's just weed jokes again.

you don't really hear a lot about the band Gryphon these days

― frogbs, Wednesday, July 17, 2019 8:17 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

did you before?

I think that was the joke

gryphon were basically a david munrowsploitation band, right? after he killed himself everybody realized they didn't really like the sound of the crumhorn, they just liked david munrow :(

Campus staff here. I avidly look at the college poster fair each September for just these trends, and my notes from '18 are that there were hardly any music posters, especially compared to TV (Friends, Breaking Bad most prominent.) Bob Marley posters, but those are lifestyle statements as much as music fandom statements.

Has Insta sort of displaced posters

Kids have many ways now of constantly seeing images of those whom they stan

I see dudes wearing Cash t-shirts all the time

they sell toddler Johnny Cash t-shirts at Target

is making a statement as a music fan as much of a thing as it once was? genuine question. like, i feel like the days when everyone wore a t-shirt of their favourite band is kind of over now, and younger people aren't as tribal or pre-disposed to infatuation over a specific band or genre as they once were. seems like they tend to define themselves more by things like TV/movie franchises - Harry Potter or Friends or Anime or something - maybe i'm quite wrong?

Someone mentioned that above, too; it’s harder to tell what kids are into via dress/style codes these days

Something like a Cash t-shirt or Marley poster feels “classic” and different from, say, wearing a Drake t-shirt. Maybe some do

My teenage sister-in-law was recently wearing a tour t-shirt of a rapper I’d never heard of, designed to mimic a Nirvana t-shirt or something — it was very semiotic.

Friends posters maybe the most surprising revelation to me! I know it's been on Netflix for ages but it's weird to think that present-day teens would get into that show. I guess the 90s revival is even deeper and broader than I'd realized.

I had a hip student worker who wore a jacket with patches of the Ramones, the Cramps, Motorhead, Iron Maiden and Bauhaus, though I'm pretty sure she really listened to indie.

A few years ago I saw the Unknown Pleasures poster next to Bob at the campus poster sale and it felt like a changing of the guards

Kids really dig the Simpsons as a hip/retro/meme-ish/ironic cultural touchstone these days, which is kind of weird to me because it doesn't feel like it's been away a long time and it's strange to make a meme out of something that's supposed to be a bit post-modern anyway?

The Simpsons has never been away, it’s still being produced!

I see enough Unknown Pleasures t-shirts that I don’t even necessarily assume the wearer is a fan... seems like just another of those “classic designs” now.

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