Which artists legacies have improved/worsened during the 2010s?

he has a lot of really great songs it turns out

and they just released that lost album he did before let's get it on but again it probably means nothing

my comment was meant to convey my perception that young ppl today hear that song and it just registers as oldies, old ppl music, and that other eras of r n b resonate more

my opinion is something else entirely

like i remember hearing peak mid-60s motown as a kid and feeling exhilarated, just totally blissed out and electrified

my speculation is that’s no longer the case but it’s just a guess

Elliott Smith has gone down for sure and seems to be fading out of time (and collective memory and recollection) really fast. The orange-stained polaroid fading into nothingness. I for sure know it's not what he'd wanted but it seems fitting somehow.

I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some disconnect w/younger listeners regarding Gaye's '60s singles and '70s-'80s work as being by the same guy.

motown was "oldies" when Big Chill soundtrack came out in '83

was there ever a time in which Neneh's legacy wasn't secure?

the clash are great but i feel like must have seemed even greater if you were around at the time, it might be hard for ppl to understand the intensity of old-school clash fandom -- "only band that matters," etc. -- just from their records.

How are the Sex Pistols received today?

Boomers ruined Motown. honestly I never listen to that stuff myself, the overexposure in the 80s was intense.

was there ever a time in which Neneh's legacy wasn't secure?

― quelle sprocket damage (sic)

Reading through this thread from 2003:

T/S: Neneh Cherry vs M.I.A.

makes it seem like she was mostly remembered by “Buffalo Stance”, I feel like her output this decade definitely solidified and updated her legacy, the cherry thing felt like the artistic achievement that was missing in her career at that point imho.

In a similar fashion it makes me think of Scott Walker - which is why I paired them together - “the drift” will be his grand career statement when making retrospectives of his discography.

Just overheard Santana and that’s one that comes and goes huh?

In the 60’s and 70’s he was adored but then he kind of had a string of unremarkable albums and was largely forgotten in the 80’s and 90’s, then he released Supernatural and everyone caught Santana fever again, he was once again seen as one of the most legendary guitarists ever. But then... he kept releasing what felt like soulless cash grab rehashings of Supernatural and once again he faded out of public favor.

however "midnight love" era is probably another story ?

Inexplicably, this never shows up on best-of-the-'80s lists anymore, which is a shame, because it's brilliant.

makes it seem like she was mostly remembered by “Buffalo Stance

heh. there's a moderate amount of repping other material, but the thread certainly suggests her legacy was unassailed. "updated" in the last few years is relevant though, yeah.

lol at Idle Idle cameo

Johnny Cash had a renaissance last decade with the Rick Rubin albums and Walk The Line, but doesn't get talked about much anymore.

Outkast?

XP Maybe Willie Nelson has eclipsed him now, but Cash is a perennial, "I don't like Country, but I like..." artist.

Cash, for too many, has been reduced to "Hurt."

Yup, and if you find a fan who goes deeper, they probably only fuck with the Rubin stuff and the Prison albums.

To be fair, he made, like, 300 albums.

OK, 56 studio albums, 11 gospel albums, 9 live albums. There are apparently 98 Willie Nelson studio albums.

Totally anecdotal, but Cash is one of my consistent sellers Discogs - especially the 60s Columbias and any Sun stuff. It never stays around long.

Willie Nelson people just want mid-70s stuff.

every so often i'll be digging in the Willie Nelson section at a local shop and there's another record from the '80s with a garishly awful cover that I've never heard of previously. like i mean i had no idea:

https://img.discogs.com/kJNdrYc-KwmYYaBMuLZvdNJiweE=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-4140660-1428972570-3220.png.jpg

even after his death, idk if scott walker's rep is as high as it was circa 2006's the drift

As a youngish person who got really into Scott shortly before his death, one trend I’ve noticed (if not, especially, partaken in) is an adoption of latter-day Scott by certain online communities as a sort of “hard mode” of music that proves your bona fides if you can successfully get into it, with lots of other stuff held up as lacking in comparison to its sophistication/difficulty. Debatable whether that’s a positive or negative, but it’s certainly a component of his legacy atm.

(My personal favorite, for the record, is a video of some streamer doing a Clone Hero chart of a SOPHIE song where someone in the comments qualifies their praise with “still no Bisch Bosch”.)

That Willie & Merle looks like their chillwave record

remove everything but "seashores" and the background image and it's a sick new balearic album.

ha ha, both otm

Re: Santana
Back in the 80s and 90s he used to play yearly in Tucson at the fair and it felt like one of the biggest events in the world for a bunch of different demographic groups
Of course after Supernatural blew up he was too big to play fairs anymore

I remember in the 90s seeing his band perform as “Abraxas” - it was all the usual suspects- Schon, Areas, Rollie... anyway they were great and it dawned on me how superfluous Santana himself was to the whole operation.

uh let’s not get ahead of ourselves here, his guitar playing is great! Geez this thread

The Abraxas Pool album is one of the worst things I’ve ever heard

Santana's new album is great and has rehabbed his reputation for a lot of people, including me.

Haha I say it with love - Carlos is great. I assume you’re referring to Santana IV? It was a pleasant surprise.

Nah I meant this album https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas_Pool

haven’t listened to IV

oh whoops missed unpersons post

There’s this one photo I’ve seen used on two separate Willie Nelson CDs... except for some reason they photoshopped a headband on one of them

It’s this one: https://www.discogs.com/Willie-Nelson-The-Very-Best-Of-Willie/release/4134708

I SWEAR there’s another willie CD out there with the same photo but sans headband

Haha I say it with love - Carlos is great. I assume you’re referring to Santana IV? It was a pleasant surprise.

No, I’m talking about his 2019 album Africa Speaks. It’s wild as hell.

jay z down, right? i

xp thanks for the tip, this fuckin rules!

I’ll check it out
Xp

Down: Early Roxy Music
Up: Later Roxy Music

i don’t really get this thread.. what are the artists who’s reputation is the same

the Reverend Horton Heat

i have no idea why but just typing that ^ made me lol

Down: La Roux. Sadly, but when the followup finally arrived it was a disappointment.

feel like evaluating some of these would require time spent at college poster fairs and yeah, Target t-shirt sections... I may not hear that much abt Cash these days in my circles cause everyone already knows he's great and there's no need to announce it, but i'd be shocked if that photo of him giving the finger weren't still making new converts and new memes.

Speaking of La Roux : Ladyhawke had her moment in the late 00s but it seems she has vanished.

you don't really hear a lot about the band Gryphon these days

I wonder about Willie Nelson. Back in the late 70s/80s he felt like a superstar--maybe because my neighbor was one of his roadies. Then in the 90s there were just a bunch of weed and bankruptcy jokes. In the 00s there seemed to be an appreciation forming around his classic albums + new work, but it seems it's just weed jokes again.