"Self Control" by Laura Branigan

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love this song like family

brimstead, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link

xpost Oh shit! Yeah, Gregory Phillinganes.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

One of the best songs of all time. Half of the lyrics have been quoted here already, but damn: “I must believe in something / so I'll make myself believe it / this night will never go”. Cue Röyksopp & Robyn’s “Do It Again”.

As mentioned upthread, the extended version of the Raf original features what must have been one of the earliest examples of Euro rap: “keep shaking, money making / to the beat that’s so heartbreaking”. Indeed.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link

(and don’t get me started on Jack White (né Horst Nußbaum). What a career trajectory! From playing professional football/soccer (for PSV Eindhoven!) in the 60s to giving German Schlager a much needed kick up its butt in the early 70s, injecting it with some glam, pop and pure joy (for people like Tony Marshall and my beloved Jürgen Marcus), to producing these Laura Branigan hits as well as “As The Rain Begins To Fall” in the 80s, to (according to German Wikipedia at least) being instrumental in making Daddy Yankee’s “Gasolina” the first international reggaeton hit fifteen years ago.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:15 (four years ago) link

Through the years I have found more and more that I prefer the Raf oruginal.

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:17 (four years ago) link

For some reason I've heard this song 3 times on the radio in the past month and I love it again. Also, it has the most extraordinary 80's video I've ever seen.

akm, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

Am amazed how nobody on this thread has mentioned that Pulp ripped this song off wholesale for the equally awesome Disco 2000.

My pal and I were joking the other day about this period in pop music when you know certain cats (talented/genius or not!) were getting a lot of work because they were literally the only ones that could program, let alone that owned, whatever brand new synth was in vogue. Like, Harold Faltermeyer, Jan Hammer, Herbie Hancock, Thomas Dolby ...

Wally Badarou too.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

Love this hard banging 80's sound (up there with Kim Wilde's 'Keep me hanging on')

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link

xp Ned mentioned it in the RIP thread

Classic song obv.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link

Pulp certainly did rip off a Laura Branigan song for "Disco 2000" - but it was "Gloria", not "Self Control".

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

I love "Gloria" and "Self Control". What other songs get this vibe? "You Keep Me Hanging On" is a great one. I'd add Donna Summer's "Protection" and Bonnie Tyler's "Holding Out For a Hero" from a few years later. Other suggestions?

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 18 July 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link

Tell It To My Heart?

Siegbran, Thursday, 18 July 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link

"Gloria," there seem to be a lot of aerobic '80s songs that fit that vibe. "Self Control" is darker and more mysterious. So vibe-wise, along with the usual Italo disco suspects, there's stuff like, I dunno, "Send Me an Angel," by Real Life, maybe?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

I don’t know the usual Italo suspects!

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link

Stuff like this, I guess:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcwYp0musC8

Also, this one (not Italo) is very "Self Control:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMPR6Ujop4k

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:31 (four years ago) link

You can also look for stuff by Scotch and Kano, I guess, among other Italian disco suspects. Other people here know that stuff better than I do.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:34 (four years ago) link

I think 'Don't Pretend to Know' by Tapps kind of fits?

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link

hmm, I dont really agree with most of these suggestions. What I dig about Self Control is the hard rock/quasi-goth sound spruced up by 80s electro. There's a relentlessness to it that makes it super badass. I dont think Visage or Taylor Dayne have that hard sinister vibe.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link

Hazel O'Connor, Eighth Day?

The Pingularity (ledge), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link

(a bit less rock, a bit more goth - see also Drowning in Berlin)

The Pingularity (ledge), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGVZOLV9SPo

Funky Isolations (jed_), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

Bette Davis Eyes - Kim Carnes
Sunglasses at Night - Corey Hart

enochroot, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:19 (four years ago) link

Sandra - In The Heat Of The Night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4kHR5SNB5Q

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link

How about Matia Bazar’s *Ti-Sento*?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4JwenFloWk

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

Sandra is a good suggestion (although clearly not as great as Self Control).

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

How about Caroline Loeb "C'est la ouate"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oyrsite2Ck

...and perhaps Gina X "No GDM"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUUlaXETebI

...Off "Electrica Salsa"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK6wglhklKg

...Propaganda "P.Machinery"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=660ZCEhvbnw

...and Eighth Wonder "I'm Not Scared":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-PYqUHfTMA

mike t-diva, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

Pulp certainly did rip off a Laura Branigan song for "Disco 2000" - but it was "Gloria", not "Self Control".

Oh christ, I'm going senile. Yes, you're right.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

Ginny - “Can’t Be Serious”, maybe?

brimstead, Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link

What a track that is

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

What other songs get this vibe?

Sheryl Lee Ralph - In The Evening

That drop into the chorus...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfoKoF4o6tU

There's a video but it's too jolly and belies the vibe.

Noel Emits, Monday, 12 July 2021 13:52 (two years ago) link

FWIW, the break in "In The Evening" synchs very effectively with the rap intro to Chaka's "I Feel For You".

mike t-diva, Monday, 12 July 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

Pulp certainly did rip off a Laura Branigan song for "Disco 2000" - but it was "Gloria", not "Self Control".

Oh christ, I'm going senile. Yes, you're right.

It's an Umberto Tozzi song, originally.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 12 July 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link

the Insane Clown Posse cover is worth checking out too

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Monday, 12 July 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link

The Cheryl Lee Ralph video is so insane.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 12 July 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bgv54jROII

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 01:15 (two years ago) link

can't believe nobody has mentioned that one group from Detroit yet.

wanna say they wore makeup and had stage names and a devoted group of fans.

and they did this song?

not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 01:27 (two years ago) link

Intersting takes - and two absolute favourites. I took the question to mean musically, but I like this interpretation of lyrically sharing the subject of the culture of the club.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 11:40 (two years ago) link

they play a prominent role in the video as well!

xp

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 12:52 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf17bkp5EL0

the 1996 remix of "In The Evening" is the sound of every bottle of poppers ever being opened

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:11 (two years ago) link

I must have heard “In The Evening” every time I went to a gay club for at least a year (roughly late 84 to late 85), and it got to the point where I thought I never wanted to hear it again. But then Horse Meat Disco started reviving it in the mid 00s, and it sort of unexpectedly renewed itself; if I heard it out now, I’d be thrilled. (A similar thing happened with “Finally”, although it’s usually me who’s playing it out.)

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link

I'd love to hear it out now too, it's taken on a real urgency over lockdown

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:22 (two years ago) link

I'm surprised Valerie Dore didn't get a look in in this thread!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80ssUKt76-c

chinavision!, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHrsv0NVa6k

Marianne Faithfull - Broken English

at the darker cruising through the city at night end of the vibe

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 28 July 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

good one

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

TIL Laura Branigan covered Falco's "Der Kommissar" with different lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=823aeo0WU_k

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 00:36 (seven months ago) link

"I...I live among the creatures of the night!"

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 00:38 (seven months ago) link


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