Which artists legacies have improved/worsened during the 2010s?

Tame Impala headlined Coachella

(Re: psych)

aren't they an IDM band now

EDM whatever the fuck they call it now

EDM is not usually I

what about Led Zeppelin? they haven't gotten the reappraisal of other 70s "dinosaurs" like Steely Dan, Fleetwood Mac, Laurel Canyon crew. have they crossed into The Who territory? or am I in a Zeppelin bubble?

Zep is eternal

Shoddy synthpop is Tame Impala's jam now.

There’s artists like Scott Walker and Neneh Cherry which scaled up in recent years.

even after his death, idk if scott walker's rep is as high as it was circa 2006's the drift

Zep is eternal

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:58 PM (forty-one seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah my parents hated them and I never heard the records until I was in my early 20s. that was strange and awesome.

The Rolling Stones have... stayed the same? or gone slightly up? I've written this many times on here but I'll forget being at a party in ~2014 and talking about Beatles v. Stones with some guy and he said "I'm more of a Goat's Head Soup kinda guy."

stones have maybe gone up since keith's book and cause they're still touring, but not making new music.

also, that weird early '10s period where mick jagger's name appeared in a few hit pop tracks

Appetite has always been feted by critics afaik?

Xpost: I think Zep is one of those legacy bands that are too big to ever fall out of grace. Like Pink Floyd or Black Sabbath they will always be one of the first bands referenced when talking about 70’s music.

From the 70’s these are some artists which I think were huge at the time but are barely mentioned anymore and I very rarely overhear their music in public spaces, as if they had always been obscure artists:

Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, Genesis. On a minor scale Yes.

On another note:

My 16 year old cousin and her friends went to a costume party in some sort of nondescript KISS makeup with a black leather jacket and she said they were disguised as 80s rockstars. She had no idea the band she was referencing to was KISS but she was aware of the look through instagram/pinterest. I guess it also happens a lot with the Aladdin Sane/Ziggy Stardust look which is a cultural icon that people remember regardless if you know who Bowie is.

There’s artists like Scott Walker and Neneh Cherry which scaled up in recent years.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, July 16, 2019 9:58 PM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Scott Walker's stock has steadily gone up since the 90s tbh.

Neneh Cherry is a good one!

gnr's critical reputation seem pretty low right now,

Pitchfork's 80s albums list was a year ago and Appetite was in there.

I actually think that list might be a good way to determine some of these, like how The Police placed twice in the 80s list from 15-20 years ago but were absent in 2018.

"Don't Stop Believing"'s stock has dropped since the mid 2000s.

I could be wrong about that, but it feels correct.

Elvis's stock fell around the late 90s for whatever reason and has yet to recover.

Africa sort of took DSB's spot

gahhh so true

DSB didn't feel like as much of a meme tho. It was still a meme, but not as much as Africa.

memes moved slower in 2007... I feel like if the Sopranos ended today DSB would be on the level of whatever happened to Africa last year, minus the Weezer aspect (maybe)

This is based on nothing in particular but Marvin Gaye seems to be less of a staple these days.

Going back to P4k again, another reason why it only seemed like a partial-meme is because it's one of the entries in that "Pitchfork 500" book. Not denying it's meme qualities tho.

sorry that was regarding DSB

Nor do the Clash appear to be as canonical anymore.

"I'm more of a Goat's Head Soup kinda guy."

― flappy bird, Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:01 PM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i was trying to remember where i heard this anecdote, turns out it was on ILM

it came to mind because for a few weeks "goats head soup" was the only record i felt like listening to and i came around to the fact that it might be very near the top of my stones album list, maybe even #1 !! which sounds so crazy but it just feels right idk

xp marvin gaye c. "grape vine" feels very dated and the whole motown sound in general feels rather unloved, however "midnight love" era is probably another story ?

Got to Give it Up i mean Blurred Lines tho

Rolling Stone's top 500 seems like a useful starting point if we want to keep the ball rolling:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-156826

I think a big problem w/Motown in the streaming era is how all over the map they are. A new listener needs some curation that isn't always there.

That said, until recently, one of the biggest vinyl dance parties in Houston was a monthly 60s Soul thing heavy on Northern Soul, Motown etc. that seemingly drew 75% millennials.

Don't Stop Believin' got a third - fourth? ninth? - life via Glee, which a lot of generation whatever kids are today glommed onto a la the Office and Friends.

I think I've asked on other threads but forget the response, but what do Kids Today think of Elliott Smith? Or, for that matter, Nick Drake?

ES has gone down

Though they are both evergreen in certain segments (those suffering from mental illness and addiction)

xp marvin gaye c. "grape vine" feels very dated

no

Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler) - still classic

he has a lot of really great songs it turns out

and they just released that lost album he did before let's get it on but again it probably means nothing

my comment was meant to convey my perception that young ppl today hear that song and it just registers as oldies, old ppl music, and that other eras of r n b resonate more

my opinion is something else entirely

like i remember hearing peak mid-60s motown as a kid and feeling exhilarated, just totally blissed out and electrified

my speculation is that’s no longer the case but it’s just a guess

Elliott Smith has gone down for sure and seems to be fading out of time (and collective memory and recollection) really fast. The orange-stained polaroid fading into nothingness. I for sure know it's not what he'd wanted but it seems fitting somehow.

I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some disconnect w/younger listeners regarding Gaye's '60s singles and '70s-'80s work as being by the same guy.

motown was "oldies" when Big Chill soundtrack came out in '83

was there ever a time in which Neneh's legacy wasn't secure?

the clash are great but i feel like must have seemed even greater if you were around at the time, it might be hard for ppl to understand the intensity of old-school clash fandom -- "only band that matters," etc. -- just from their records.

How are the Sex Pistols received today?

Boomers ruined Motown. honestly I never listen to that stuff myself, the overexposure in the 80s was intense.

was there ever a time in which Neneh's legacy wasn't secure?

― quelle sprocket damage (sic)

Reading through this thread from 2003:

T/S: Neneh Cherry vs M.I.A.

makes it seem like she was mostly remembered by “Buffalo Stance”, I feel like her output this decade definitely solidified and updated her legacy, the cherry thing felt like the artistic achievement that was missing in her career at that point imho.

In a similar fashion it makes me think of Scott Walker - which is why I paired them together - “the drift” will be his grand career statement when making retrospectives of his discography.