Mike Trout needs his own thread

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An oddity, looking at his career box: his seasonal high in total bases is 339, which I'm willing to bet would be the lowest mark if you looked at the 50 greatest hitters ever as measured by OPS+ or whatever you want. This is in no way a knock--it can easily be explained by all the walks he takes and the time he's lost to injuries. Just a quirk of the numbers.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:07 (one year ago) link

(Oh--and if you eliminate people like Dave Orr, because I've never heard of him.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:08 (one year ago) link

Didn't have to look far for another walking-machine with fewer: Votto.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:10 (one year ago) link

is it too late to make a bet with you, though? ;)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:10 (one year ago) link

keep in mind i only bet with space bux

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:11 (one year ago) link

I have already plowed through over $40 billion in my off-the-cuff I'd-be-willing-to-bet posts.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:17 (one year ago) link

Apart first half of Bonds’ career, Trout is the only one who is a legit great a defensive player in that list. Makes u think.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 01:01 (one year ago) link

Forgot Hornsby yikes!

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 01:03 (one year ago) link

i suspect ruth's pitching was more valuable than hornsby's defense

mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 01:14 (one year ago) link

Hitting and pitching didn’t happen much at the same time that being said (iirc)

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 02:26 (one year ago) link

Within 0.1 of Bellinger on Baseball Reference's WAR leader board. I know the season doesn't really start for some until he takes over the #1 spot, so Opening Day is imminent.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2019-batting-leaders.shtml

clemenza, Sunday, 28 July 2019 14:28 (one year ago) link

happy 28th

1173 G, 1301 H, 278 HR, 198 SB, .306/.419/.582, 176 OPS+, 71.7 bWAR, 72.9 fWAR

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 13:15 (one year ago) link

Penciled him in for 12 more HR this year and tried the Favourite Toy calculator: 14% chance at 763 HR. Which is probably a little light, seeing as his HR rate may continue to climb for another two or three seasons.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 13:47 (one year ago) link

Mike Trout is now tied with Derek Jeter in career WAR via both FanGraphs and Baseball Reference. pic.twitter.com/OC6vat7vQY

— Lindsey Adler (@lindseyadler) August 18, 2019

mookieproof, Sunday, 18 August 2019 22:52 (one year ago) link

Mike Trout just hit a baseball so far that Fox Sports West had the home run graphic up before the ball even landed. pic.twitter.com/dgSw1xALT6

— Fabian Ardaya (@FabianArdaya) September 4, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:24 (one year ago) link

.@MikeTrout, BIG FLY. 😱 pic.twitter.com/aWex1Ximr5

— MLB (@MLB) September 5, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 5 September 2019 20:24 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

semi-doppelganger MIKE FISH, discussed on EW podcast yesterday

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=fish--000mic

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:55 (ten months ago) link

me: i want mike trout
mom: we have mike trout at home
at home:

I'm a board man. Board man gets paid (Will M.), Friday, 15 November 2019 02:36 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

Trevor Bauer tells me Mike Trout has an exemption from the league for therapeutic HGH for thyroid issue, and that players know this and generally don't care-- says there's a whole complicated process to qualify for such an exemption from MLB.

— Daniel Roberts (@readDanwrite) January 17, 2020


can't handle everything going on this offseason

fwiw he tweeted yesterday that he hadn't heard anything about trout specifically
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOgrTA4XsAIZkZd.jpg

℺☽⋠⏎ (✖), Friday, 17 January 2020 20:54 (eight months ago) link

it'll be annoying if this ends up being a thing that follows trout everywhere

i know he had a thyroid issue before his rookie year that needed treatment, so if his exemption goes that far back i imagine it's legit and not "MLB protecting its best player"

℺☽⋠⏎ (✖), Friday, 17 January 2020 20:57 (eight months ago) link

this really brings out the whole pro sports dumpster igniters

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 January 2020 21:06 (eight months ago) link

Yikes. This is a chicken/egg slippery slope as PED abuse is aligned with thyroid issues, see Jason Giambi circa 2004.

Also reminscent of theories of Lance Armstrong's early career testicular cancer being a byproduct of his first doping programs and his numerous subsequent TUEs allowed as he was a survivor.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 January 2020 21:10 (eight months ago) link

:(

stop it, world

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 17 January 2020 22:12 (eight months ago) link

can’t think of a reason someone would need growth hormone for a thyroid issue...??

k3vin k., Saturday, 18 January 2020 00:24 (eight months ago) link

will carroll tweeted that thyroid issues aren't even covered by TUEs

bauer's friend tweeted this and then deleted both tweets:

Update: Bauer now, through his P.R. people, tells us that he said or meant to say that "IF" Trout has this exemption, he has a league-approved medical exemption. Bauer clarifies that he doesn't know whether Trout has one or not.

and then:

MLB and the MLBPA jointly released the following statement saying no player has ever received an exception for HGH under the current program.

Basically, statements about Mike Trout using HGH and having an exemption for it are false. pic.twitter.com/EaND5zfC1n

— Kyle Glaser (@KyleAGlaser) January 17, 2020

℺☽⋠⏎ (✖), Saturday, 18 January 2020 01:24 (eight months ago) link

Lol I think he was maybe just repeating something that Scott Brosius’ kid tweeted yesterday.

omar little, Saturday, 18 January 2020 01:33 (eight months ago) link

dang, didn't baseball twitter just get sonned by someone claiming to be beltran's niece, like yesterday?

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 18 January 2020 01:46 (eight months ago) link

yo is it true baseball twitter got sonned by a alleged burner account after a mlb beef??????

Andy K, Saturday, 18 January 2020 02:47 (eight months ago) link

beltran's niece actually turned out to be the burner of annoying twitter person IncarceratedBob

do keep up everyone, this is all very important

℺☽⋠⏎ (✖), Saturday, 18 January 2020 03:48 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

One of the cooler things Mike Trout does every year: instead of having his Millville HS number retired, he comes back and gives it to the new captains every year. https://t.co/iNbhQOqIMA

— Fabian Ardaya (@FabianArdaya) February 6, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:59 (seven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Mike Trout hitting rockets isn’t exclusive to the baseball field. pic.twitter.com/tuEyIzxqQ5

— Los Angeles Angels (@Angels) March 2, 2020

mookieproof, Monday, 2 March 2020 15:26 (six months ago) link

absolute liftoff

k3vin k., Monday, 2 March 2020 22:55 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

does anyone want to know what Trout's standout skill is?

If someone wants to know what Trout’s standout skill is, then, all you have to do is tell them he is more than twice as good at hitting pitches that are in the shadow of the strike zone as any other hitter in baseball. Tell them about how tough it is for hitters to hit pitches in the shadow of the zone, and how most of them cost their team piles of runs in those situations over the course of a season, and that Trout adds more value in what are supposed to be his least-advantageous situations than most hitters do in any situation, period. Maybe tell them about run expectancy, and how we’re not necessarily measuring Trout’s value in actual runs, but in perceived runs added in a context-neural, all-things-equal situation.

well, i think my job here is done.

Wait, that’s way too clunky. How many times are you gonna use the word “situation,” buddy? Sheesh. Instead, say Trout’s standout skill is dread. Say that there is a cliché that athletes and coaches often use about how if you come up with the right game plan and execute it, then you’ll be successful, only Trout is impervious to game plans. He succeeds against the types of pitches hitters are expected to succeed at, but he also succeeds where hitters are supposed to fail, and does so to an extent that is not replicated by anyone. Because of that, pitchers have nowhere to turn. Baseball is a zero-sum game; if Trout is never at a disadvantage, then the pitcher always is.

alright then, that does clarify things, so i'll just be-

Or you can just say he’s the best player in baseball. That stands out pretty well, too.

...

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/where-mike-trout-stands-out-most/

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 04:23 (five months ago) link

those stats are really cool. I have to find sortable tables for all those zone stats

k3vin k., Friday, 24 April 2020 05:36 (five months ago) link

i like them too. now i'm curious who wins the Vladimir Guerrero Sr award for best waste pitch hitter

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 05:40 (five months ago) link

the world demands to know. looks like they’re sourced from baseball savant but I can’t figure out how to find them

k3vin k., Friday, 24 April 2020 05:57 (five months ago) link

i couldn't find it on their website either, but found it through google:

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/visuals/swing-take?playerId=545361&year=2019

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 06:11 (five months ago) link

as usual at baseballsavant, they don't make it easy to sort or customize their data, and they bury interesting features. for example, you can switch the filter to pitchers, and i think that gives you a look at how different pitchers do in different areas of the strike zone, which is interesting in a different way

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 06:16 (five months ago) link

yeah, i think that's right. because it shows gerrit cole as having a -58 run value, with most of the surplus (or deficit i guess) coming from pitches in and on the edge of the zone, which makes sense for him

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 06:19 (five months ago) link

lol, i guess all pitchers do pretty well on the edge of the zone, duh.

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 06:20 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

Mike Trout Is Now Fully Qualified for the Hall of Fame

so at least we have that

mookieproof, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:13 (two months ago) link

on paternity leave

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 02:12 (one month ago) link

Beckham Aaron Trout. B.A.T. BAT

— Los Angeles Angels (@Angels) August 1, 2020

Andy K, Sunday, 2 August 2020 00:10 (one month ago) link

is that for Aaron #44?

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 August 2020 00:18 (one month ago) link

homer 1st ab back from paternity leave, natch

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 02:19 (one month ago) link

29 today. he can beat the age curve, right?

right?

mookieproof, Friday, 7 August 2020 17:30 (one month ago) link

gonna suck when we inevitably have the "how many records would he have broken if not for the abridged 2020 season" convo

frogbs, Friday, 7 August 2020 17:38 (one month ago) link

most of those will be for counting stats, so ptui!

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 August 2020 18:07 (one month ago) link


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