Which artists legacies have improved/worsened during the 2010s?

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Actually there is quite a bunch of those cheapie classic collections in the last few years... Nancy Wilson, Conway Twitty, Slim Whitman, Dinah Shore, Billy Fury, Milt Jackson, Hank Crawford, Bill Haley, Judy Garland, Chet Atkins, Nena, Al Bano+Romina Power, Harold Land, Billie Holliday, Katja Ebstein, Lyambiko, Kitty Wells, Mahalia Jackson, Nat King Cole, Thelma Houston, Bobby McFerrin, Gene Vincent, Girlschool, Jackie McLean, Dakota Staton, Sonny Rollins, Elmer Bernstein, Bo Diddley, Chick Corea, Charlie Parker, Candlemass, Therion, Behemoth, Sinister, Sinner, Gorefest, Wendy Waldman, Jean-Michel Jarre, Petra Zeiger, Jennifer Rush, Doris Day, Guano Apes, Chet Baker, Sweet, Art Blakey, Fats Domino, Nina Simone, Max Roach, New Riders Of The Purple Sage, Hugh Masekela, Matthias Reim, Peter Maffay, Hank Williams, Ruth Brown, Etta James, Lavern Baker, Horace Silver...

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 15 July 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link

mobb deep up, I think? not down at least. doesn't seem like, say, big pun, capone n noreaga, or even nas register much anymore but "shook ones" lives on. maybe prodigy's death had something to do with it?

fwiw my impression could be off since I haven't really followed hip hop for like 10+ years. this is mostly informed by some convos I've had over the years.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 15 July 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link

feel like I've been waiting for trap beats to become as uncool as jungle breaks in 2000 or w/e for way longer than I expected but it never seems to happen

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 15 July 2019 00:41 (four years ago) link

^yeah I was expecting them to be played out this year, but no sign of that yet.

stan by me (morrisp), Monday, 15 July 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link

Seems like Stereolab are enjoying a resurgence with the recent expanded editions coming out and touring this year.

o. nate, Monday, 15 July 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link

also psychedelics and communism are pretty "cool" again, not that they ever went away for some of us ;-)

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 15 July 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link

is dub cool at the moment? seems to come round in cycles

frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 15 July 2019 01:25 (four years ago) link

Dub is always cool

Οὖτις, Monday, 15 July 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link

also psychedelics and communism are pretty "cool" again, not that they ever went away for some of us ;-)

yep but psychedelic rock seems to have lower standing rn than any time since the 90s

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 15 July 2019 01:30 (four years ago) link

probably just the general decline of rock as a form I suppose

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 15 July 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link

Dub is always cool

― Οὖτις, Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:28 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

flappy bird, Monday, 15 July 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/9ASBS9Q.gif

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 15 July 2019 01:34 (four years ago) link

^👍😂

stan by me (morrisp), Monday, 15 July 2019 01:38 (four years ago) link

Otm

Οὖτις, Monday, 15 July 2019 01:38 (four years ago) link

yep but psychedelic rock seems to have lower standing rn than any time since the 90s

― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm)

people will start liking quicksilver messenger service more when jann wenner finally dies

Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Monday, 15 July 2019 01:38 (four years ago) link

quicksilver are so fucking cool... lotta Japanese bands from the 90s dug em from what I can tell

brimstead, Monday, 15 July 2019 01:52 (four years ago) link

Dub sounds great in like a nice medium sized venue’s PA in between sets

brimstead, Monday, 15 July 2019 01:53 (four years ago) link

Dub is always cool

― Οὖτις, Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:28 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

― flappy bird,

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 15 July 2019 03:32 (four years ago) link

yep but psychedelic rock seems to have lower standing rn than any time since the 90s
probably just the general decline of rock as a form I suppose

Actually if you look at it in those terms I’d say the Great Culling’s actually been a bit kinder to psych (or at least psych-tinged) rock than rock music as a whole
Kinda like dub I think that might be in part bc it’s a modifier that plays nice with other genres, and demands that its less niche practitioners display at least a little bit of proficiency at doing so

You can’t see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Monday, 15 July 2019 05:44 (four years ago) link

Crap music does tend to get weeded out as time moves forward

brimstead, Monday, 15 July 2019 05:53 (four years ago) link

explain Pearl Jam then

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 05:57 (four years ago) link

Dub is always cool

― Οὖτις, Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:28 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

― flappy bird,

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, July 14, 2019 10:32 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

budo jeru, Monday, 15 July 2019 06:19 (four years ago) link

quicksilver are so fucking cool... lotta Japanese bands from the 90s dug em from what I can tell

― brimstead

i thought it was just michio kurihara and he was in a ton of bands, could be wrong though! anyway point is michio kurihara rules

there's one of those semi-official "wolfgang's vault" videos with cipollina sitting in with link wray on "mystery train" from '74, it also rules

unfortunately wenner doesn't help things whenever rolling stone makes another list of "500 greatest records of all time" and he makes sure "happy trails" is at, like, #6, because he was THERE man and everybody else is like, really? you've got kendrick lamar at #146

Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Monday, 15 July 2019 06:57 (four years ago) link

Dub is always cool

― Οὖτις, Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:28 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

― flappy bird,

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, July 14, 2019 10:32 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

― budo jeru, Monday, July 15, 2019 7:19 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah but it comes and goes a bit doesn't it? Ebbs and flows. Sometimes you've got a big reinvention of the sound, as with Basic Channel in the 90s and dubstep in the mid-2000s. Other times there's less enthusiasm and it gets associated with bad hippy soundsystems. For a while dancehall seemed to be taking up a little dub-sized space, and even dancehall instrumentals became voguish. The dub cycle is about 5-6 years long in my reckoning.

frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 15 July 2019 10:26 (four years ago) link

Just had a flashback to so-called 'acid jazz'.

pomenitul, Monday, 15 July 2019 10:36 (four years ago) link

#flashbackfriday Paul & Eddie Piller at the Acid Jazz 10th Anniversary celebration in 1997! #paulweller #mod #acidjazz #acidjazzrecords #soul pic.twitter.com/rEmNm6lYcZ

— 𝗣𝗮𝘂𝗹 𝗪𝗲𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗿 𝗡𝗲𝘄𝘀 (@PaulWellerNews) October 26, 2018

it's that numpt who makes them compilations with martin freeman with the wellender!

calzino, Monday, 15 July 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link

Dub is always cool
― Οὖτις, Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:28 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― flappy bird,
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, July 14, 2019 10:32 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― budo jeru, Monday, 15 July 2019 07:19 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

paolo, Monday, 15 July 2019 11:08 (four years ago) link

Up - ambient and balearic

paolo, Monday, 15 July 2019 11:08 (four years ago) link

Really? I thought the whole balearic hype of 10y ago is well over?

Siegbran, Monday, 15 July 2019 11:14 (four years ago) link

Here's one I think about a lot that has been talked about on other threads, but the whole Lexx/Mudd/Idjut Boys/Quiet Village aesthetic is....well, it's been co-opted beyond recognition, right?

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 15 July 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link

also my comment upthread was linking Stereolab to psychedelics and communism, because duh. most psychedelic rock being made is garbage, though i rather like that Bardo Pond/Acid Mothers Temple collab from a few years back.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 15 July 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link

I realized the other day that for years and years I’d hear “Born to be Wild” at least once a month as TV/movie/ad shorthand for squares cutting loose and/or something to do with cars or motorcycles. And to a much lesser extent Magic Carpet Ride and The Pusher to signify some sort of drug experience. But I don’t remember the last time I heard any Steppenwolf song in any context.

joygoat, Monday, 15 July 2019 12:15 (four years ago) link

Not quite balearic per se, but there seems to have been a big resurgence / revival of Early house and techno (or modern takes on the genre) with no discernible peaks or troughs recently.

My shitty theory is that its because everyone knows that everyone else has a camera in their phone, and no one wants to get caught / memed / FB'ed doing anything embarrassing like get excited - but I'm guessing some people must really like this stuff?

help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Monday, 15 July 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

i never really saw any of that music as going away. like if you didn't like early house and techno then you were just an idiot.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 15 July 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

it's that numpt who makes them compilations with martin freeman

I’m not sure that “man who founded record label in 1987, and has been running it ever since, still runs it” is that revelatory a zing

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link

Have you seen the album covers of these compilations? Never mind.. In your world of relwvatory zings you just think it is cool!

calzino, Monday, 15 July 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

xp
i can't even tell what you are being shrill and arsey about here - the minutiae of record label history or that i'm calling someone you like a numpt!

calzino, Monday, 15 July 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

I didn’t know the compilations existed, just googled “eddie piller martin freeman” to check that’s who you were talking about

(As due to a brain disease, I remember the name of a record label boss, despite owning a total of one Corduroy CD in 1993)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link

oh lol it was in the tweet anyway

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link

The "we are the mods" po-faced mugging on the covers of them compilations, silly old men trying to look like young dandies - i just find it completely laughable.

calzino, Monday, 15 July 2019 13:19 (four years ago) link

I think there was a lot of neo mod/acid jazz crossover in the 90's and there seemed to be some quite nauseatingly bad fashion design about, although the only band I seem to remember is the Brand New Heavies! But I have vague memories of lots of wazzocks in daft hats.

calzino, Monday, 15 July 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link

Chicago had (has?) Liquid Soul, which is an interesting one, because it was headed by Mars Williams, who not only has a ton of free jazz bona fides but also played (plays?) sax in the Psychedelic Furs.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

table otm

brimstead, Monday, 15 July 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

Jim Croce's stock seems to have risen, judging by recent placements in Django and Stranger Things

Οὖτις, Monday, 15 July 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

rush yeah maybe I’m just thinking of kunihara with his cipolina steez

brimstead, Monday, 15 July 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link

The name of the Thelonious Monk Institute of Jazz was (inexplicably, to me) changed to the Herbie Hancock Institute of Jazz, so I'd say Hancock's stock has risen steadily in the last 10-20 years.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 July 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

Herbie is probably the most famous living jazz musician at this point, save Kenny G

Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 July 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link

I realized the other day that for years and years I’d hear “Born to be Wild” at least once a month as TV/movie/ad shorthand for squares cutting loose and/or something to do with cars or motorcycles. And to a much lesser extent Magic Carpet Ride and The Pusher to signify some sort of drug experience. But I don’t remember the last time I heard any Steppenwolf song in any context.

There's a TV ad for some kids stuff out now that uses an female-sung cover of BTBW. It and MCR still seem to be staples on Classic Rock radio, all the more remarkable given how many '60s songs they're dropping.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 04:27 (four years ago) link

^^Just saw that ad again: it's for baby diapers and there's a guy singing the chorus over & over.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

there's another ad that made the rounds pretty recently with magic carpet ride too

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link


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