At the risk of stating the obvious, the July 2019 US Politics Thread is horse-sh*t

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“Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how​ it is done​,” he continued. “​These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!​”

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 14 July 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

Racists president is racist

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 14 July 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 July 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

Racists president is racist

― (•̪●) (carne asada),

Rapist president diverts attention to preferred grounds

anvil, Sunday, 14 July 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

Child's Garden of Trump "R" entry would include: raucous, racist, rabid, rash, regressive, revolting, ridiculous, regrettable, rapacious, rapist, ruthless, recidivist, radical, rank, risible, rancorous, rude, rancorous, repressive, ruinous, repellant, remorseless, ranting, repulsive

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

This is raucous, racist, rabid, rash, regressive, revolting, ridiculous, regrettable, rapacious, rapist, ruthless, recidivist, radical, rank, risible, rancorous, rude, rancorous, repressive, ruinous, repellant, remorseless, ranting, repulsive even by his standards.

pomenitul, Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

repetitive but right

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

rancorous, rude, rancorous


forgot repetitive

Xp there it is

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

And rampant. And repugnant.

pomenitul, Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

Racists president is racist

You missed the apostrophe, like so:

Racists' president is racist

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

There's a subreddit called 'Ask Trump Supporters' where you can interact with some of America's finest. Someone asked 'In a recent tweet, Trump said that progressive congresswomen should go back to the corrupt countries they came from and fix them before trying to reform our government. Do you agree?' Here's a selection of replies:

Do you really take that statement literally? Or do you understand the context and point being made.

[q]What do you think about the tweets?

Love it.

Is this appropriate behavior from the President?

Completely fine by me. Someone needs to put these people in their place.

Is it a racist remark?

To you progressives and liberals? Probably. Do I care? Not one bit.[/q]

“Racism” is a code word for anti-white. Liberals use it relentlessly to silence conservatives and whites. Liberals have even gone so far as to say that racism is “power plus privilege” and thus minorities can not possibly be racist towards whites.

I’ve simply had enough. I won’t apologize for the privileges I’ve had in my life and I don’t feel bad for the failures of others. Im proud of my glorious heritage and no one is going to change that. The age of guilt is over.

I also do not see what is racist about it, he didnt comment about the color of her skin. Is anyone that is a minority shielded from any criticism because of their skin color??

Also, I find it incredibly disrespectful to the country that litterally saved Omars family to suggest that americans are racists bigot etc etc.. Her family owes a gigantic debt to this country and the citizen that opened their arms to her family.

I truly echoe the remarks of Trump and also those remarks coming from Tucker Carlson as well.

On a sidenote, I am quite enjoying this civil war between the unhinged progressives and Pelosi.

etc.

pomenitul, Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

Sorry for the wonky formatting.

pomenitul, Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

On a sidenote, I am quite enjoying this civil war between the unhinged progressives and Pelosi.

Chris Christie was parroting this point on TV this morning.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

I don't think that's a talking point so much as an honest reaction. I'm sure they all love it.

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

Trump supporters in desiring a modern civil war shockah

Karl Malone, Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

I hate it, but I just saw Pelosi called them "xenophobic comments" and it's real tiring how point-missing she is

rob, Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

I think you can't understand "a bunch of House Democrats/staffers think AOC is making them look bad and should shut up" without remembering that they have cable news on in their offices 24/7 and are deeply brain poisoned by it

— Michael T Sweeney (@mtsw) July 14, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link

I heard someone say that Dem Congressmen/staffers are under the delusion that their worthless bills would be getting more attention if AOC was not always tweeting stuff

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link

Pelosi's comments about how they're "Twitter famous" or whatever still piss me off, as though we don't currently have a president who tweeted his way to the White House

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link

Meanwhile, Trump's doubling down on the "Radical Left Congresswomen" this morning just reinforces a.) how deliberate a strategy this is and b.) how much the 2020 race is going to be nothing but unvarnished racist/sexist chest thumping, and how ugly it will be. It's gonna make 2016 Trump look tame.

that's all he has to go with at this point other than the economy being what it is .

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 15 July 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link

Yeah, it's how he dominates the cycle. He says something shocking, then what he says becomes news for a couple of days, and all the idiot press keeps hounding people for comment. If someone doesn't comment then it's "omg, Pelosi mum on Trump racism!" And then if you do comment, it's almost pointless, because Trump doesn't give a shit and will just move on to his next mouth fart. The only way to win is to not say anything, which for both the press and politicians is practically impossible. Or change the subject, which takes some savvy that press and politicians often lack. "Yeah, he's racist, but we can talk about that some other time, because thousands of people are being held in cages and health care is once again on the chopping block and no one wants that."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

"The only way to win"...man, fuck that, this isn't a game for immigrants or kids of immigrants. This is worth fighting independent of the politics "game".

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 15 July 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

Well, yeah. Obviously. But I'd like to know how Trump winning election will help any of those victims of his policies.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

Building consensus against thinking that citizens should "go back to their own country" is what matters. Electoral politics are a consequence of that consensus, not the goal in themselves.

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 15 July 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

I don't even know what you mean by consensus. He is not a popular president. His policies are not popular. They are not driven by consensus. They are driven exclusively by his power.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

It's not consensus so much as a redefining of The Center such that now as Americans we define "keeping children well fed and bathed in pens" as the center.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

meanwhile, some of the frogs started to notice that the water around them had been simmering for quite some time

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

in other dumb news, it is very obvious that trump's way out on his obviously racist tweets about the squad (sorry, i don't like the name but i don't like typing all four of their names out either) is going to be that he wasn't referring to them, that he never said their names, and that the news is fake

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

So did anybody actually go to one of these lights for liberty things or was that strictly for Balloon Juice commenters

El Tomboto, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

"I never told them to go back to their country, I asked them make a temporary visit and then to come back"

though Trump doesn't need "a way out", he's gonna double down like he always does. his mouthpieces are definitely gonna use lines like this one though

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

"i meant go back to the US cities they came from. Also Sister Souljah happened to Clinton. DOUBLE STANDARD?"

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

oh looks like he's already tweeted that those congresswomen are the real foul-mouthed racists

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

so did Lindsey Graham

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

Calling racists out on their racism is racist. Checkmate, racists.

pomenitul, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

So did anybody actually go to one of these lights for liberty things

my partner did! i haven't had a chance to ask about it yet.

i've been traveling so i'm just catching up on the news. apparently the raids were delayed because the whole country knew about them in advance

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

"i meant go back to the US cities they came from. Also Sister Souljah happened to Clinton. DOUBLE STANDARD?"

― Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal),

you're already correct about the first half of that.

Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD) insisted on Monday that President Donald Trump’s racist tirade about “progressive congresswomen” going back to where they came from was, in fact, not racist.

During a radio interview on WBAL NewsNow, host Bryan Nehman asked Harris if he believed Trump’s rant about the congresswomen was racist.

“No, they’re not. They’re obviously not racist,” Harris said. “But again, when anyone disagrees with someone now, you call them a racist and this is no exception.”

“Why’s it not racist when you say ‘Go back to where you came from’ when they’re Americans?” asked Nehman.

“Look, ask the President what he meant by it but clearly it’s not a racist comment,” the GOP lawmaker replied. “He could’ve meant go back to the district they came from, to the neighborhood they came from.”

Nehman asked incredulously, “Do you really believe he was talking about the district they came from?”

“Absolutely,” Harris said.

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

in the 2018 election, Harris beat his Democratic opponent in MD's first district, 60% to 38%.

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

, host Bryan Nehman asked Harris if he believed Trump’s rant about the congresswomen was racist.

jesus fucking christ will people stop this shit? Assume he's a racist and put him on the spot. "How do you defend the president's stupid, racist tweet?"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link

seriously, why even imply the possibility of ambiguity here

rob, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

many people have offered up defenses A, B, C, and D for what is said to be a racially divisive remark by the president. which of those do you support, and do you have any new ideas for why he didn't do anything wrong?

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

NYT notifications on my phone:

"President Trump's insult against congresswomen showed that when it comes to race, he plays with fire like no other, our correspodent writes."

"Today is Amazon Prime Day. Here's how to avoid getting sucked into buying gear you'll regret"

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/TcaBctV.jpg

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link

remember when AOC said straight up that Trump was racist and Anderson Cooper's reaction was "how can you say that??"

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

Do you, a thoroughly-unobjective person who is ideologically aligned with the subject of inquiry and who will thusly twist himself in as many rhetorical knots as possible in concocting a response which is both butthurtedly hyperdefensive and disingenuous as fuck, believe that the president said something racist?

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

the pellucid analysis of Peter Baker

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

And now we go to the chairman of the Republicans are not Racist Committee for Free Tradw for comment

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

love that the response of some GOP folks like brit hume is basically 'the real tragedy is people calling other people racists'

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

Have any 'moderate' Republicans condemned yesterday's trio of racist tweets? Be it only in sheepish terms?

pomenitul, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

Will Hurd and one other guy, apparently. that's it so far.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link


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