Zero ppl called him out on thishttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogilala#/media/File%3AOgilala.jpg
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 13 July 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link
Zero ppl called him out on this
http://www.feelnumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/zero-shirt-Bullet-With-Butterfly-Wings-Video-Smashing-Pumpkins.jpg
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 13 July 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link
one of the oldest crowds I've ever seen was when i went to a "beastie boys story" gig this year where mike d and ad rock told stories. almost nobody under 35.
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Saturday, July 13, 2019 12:34 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
who sez millenials are misguided
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
I know Coyne is a dick but honestly the MUSIC just sounds bad to me now, corny inspirational indie with "weird" cod Beach Boys stuff..... don't know what I saw in it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:09 (four years ago) link
the flaming lips are just an all-out gimmick band now, aren't they? i mean they always had that aspect to them, but that one time they actively announced "Hey, everybody, we're doing a proper album!" nobody fucking cared.
whenever someone says "coyne" i think "kevin" and want to say that he doesn't _actually_ think hitler was a great man, that was just him singing in character as ian brady
― Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
Sorry i meant thishttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogilala#/media/File%3AOgilala.jpg
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link
Xp
Jack White is probably less relevant but has a weirdly psycho core following that eats up everything he does, like Ween type thing
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, July 13, 2019 4:09 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Jack White was on Lemonade!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10pOVWHrWck
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link
shakey are you trying to post the cover of Ogilala?
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81OovYaUMtL._SX522_.jpg
― flappy bird, Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link
stock up: '80s rnb, mixtape rap, new age, sophisti-popstock down: turn of the decade indie, freak-folk, arcade fire, college rock
Wouldn't know if this is correct, but sounds good to me. Erase indie rock from Beat Happening through whatever bands said "HEY! HO!" and clapped/stomped etc., and the world is a better place.
Quick search suggests no one has weighed in on post-punk as a genre. Again I don't really have my finger on the critical/popular/young people pulse... But based on the fact post-punk is heavily used to describe a lot of current music from 2010-2019 (for good and for ill, but overall more for good than circa 2005), I'd wager it's retained its place of pride as rock music that stands the test of time? Still sounds great to me, I think I just kind of OD'd a bit on it during my 20s in the 2000s.
― Soundslike, Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:52 (four years ago) link
I really hope freak folk/new weird america has a revival, it was so great I thought
― Dan S, Sunday, 14 July 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
I enjoyed a lot of the flaming lips stuff up to a point but I have the same reaction now as UMS, I’m not sure what the hell I was thinking. I hear Yoshimi and Soft Bulletin now and they sound like garbage. I still enjoy a couple tracks from HTDITFH but that’s all strictly based on memory, haven’t listened to it in years. It’s all independent from Wayne Coyne.
― omar little, Sunday, 14 July 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link
Their best stuff is pre-Soft Bulletin. Never understood why ppl freaked over that record.
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 14 July 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link
fuck The Soft Bulletin, 1999 was the year of Musick to Play in the Dark, The West, Eureka, Goodby 20th Century
― Dan S, Sunday, 14 July 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link
•Goodbye
― Dan S, Sunday, 14 July 2019 01:18 (four years ago) link
No idea what any of those albums are lol
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 14 July 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link
part of the lips thing as Omar said is those records *sound* terrible, so harsh and shitty
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 14 July 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link
Dave Fridmann should be jailed
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 14 July 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link
[redacted long diatribe against The Flaming Lips]
Jack White on the other hand I've 100% come around on and think he's super-great and I understand why people were losing their shit about him at a time when I didn't really know or care
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 14 July 2019 02:03 (four years ago) link
Mercury Rev's popularity always surprised me and I don't think I've ever been able to enjoy any of their albums. In 2003 I had to agree with the other server that she wouldn't ever put on Deserter's Songs and I wouldn't ever put on Solex.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 14 July 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link
I liked Deserter's Songs, but not much else by them. Flaming Lips, I liked several of their albums, up through Yoshimi. Haven't heard the last few, but The Terror and Embryonic were pretty good, iirc. I haven't listened to them in years, tbf, but I want to say they were darker and weirder and less Muppet Music and more Krautrocky?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 July 2019 03:00 (four years ago) link
'Embryonic' and 'The Terror' were excellent, and I'd long since written them off as bunny-suited dayglo cartoons. Those albums had an edge, clarity and vision. I haven't followed closely since but it seems like they've reverted to Yoshimi silliness?
― Soundslike, Sunday, 14 July 2019 03:08 (four years ago) link
The Wayne stuff mentioned upthread turned me off of them along with their stupid take on Dark Side of the Moon.
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 14 July 2019 03:12 (four years ago) link
Oh damn I must admit I loved Embryonic and also that really long one-track thing they did, I always forget I saw the flame on that lip that one time
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 14 July 2019 03:32 (four years ago) link
Embryonic is definitely very good, will rep for The Terror too
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Sunday, 14 July 2019 04:14 (four years ago) link
― Soundslike
I'd mostly agree with this although I've barely gone back to The Terror since it came out. Their 2017 album, Oczy Mlody definitely calls back to the silliness of their commercial peak, but was so lightweight and forgettable. I think they used up their best songs on the Miley Cyrus album from a couple of years before that.
The Flaming Lips are one of the best examples on this whole thread. They won a lot of people back round with Embryonic but that now seems like one last hurrah just before the new decade began and people really moved on. The Heady Fwends and Beatles tributes were just more gimmicky nonsense and they just released an album for RSD that I've seen barely any discussion about anywhere. I still love just about everything from Hit To Death to Embryonic (even most of At War With The Mystics). 2009 would have been the perfect place to stop.
Mercury Rev were great for the first five albums. Since then they've had a massive drop off in quality. I felt embarrassed for them when they came back with The Light In You after such a long gap.
― kitchen person, Sunday, 14 July 2019 04:33 (four years ago) link
As long as we’re surveying this particular corner of the music world: I think (Embryonic featured players) MGMT’s lengthy fallow period popularly, & for a slightly shorter duration critically, might’ve actually helped them ride out the great Indie Hype Band’s From 2009 culling, since there was always that residual goodwill and desire to see them live up to the promise of their early singles. So when their record last year had a bunch of strong pop songs that rewarded both the true believers who stuck it out as well as more casual people just peeking their heads back in on the continuing MGMT story, it seemed like there was a genuine resurgence of positive attention, increased sales+streams, video essays about their career arc etc. that, if they’re inclined to, they could parlay into a more enduring spot in the public eye (if not necessarily the bonanza with rap features etc. of their breakout). At the very least they probably deserve one of the numerous slots on alt radio playlists currently occupied by a band who lifted their entire bag of tricks from “Kids” or “Electric Feel”.
― You can’t see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Sunday, 14 July 2019 04:56 (four years ago) link
“Congratulations” is severely underrated and this band will be cited as geniuses despite the “Electric Kids” whatever thing that was whatever
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 14 July 2019 05:44 (four years ago) link
I think it’s great that the Flaming Lips can vacillate between big serious art-rock projects like Embryonic/The Terror and just goofy RSD shit. They basically just like making stuff, sometimes it lands and sometimes it doesn’t. More power to em
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 14 July 2019 05:49 (four years ago) link
To that point I think their legacy plateaued in 2006, once they stopped being part of THE CONVERSATION, and has been basically steady for the last 13 or so years, through good projects and bad
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 14 July 2019 05:55 (four years ago) link
Well I think they made a bunch of crap records that were unjustifiably rated highly and were a bunch of dicks while at it but that’s just me, there are few bands I will extravagantly leave the coffee shop when they come on but Flaming Lips are that only band
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 14 July 2019 06:04 (four years ago) link
the lips dudes voice is just so so bad
― brimstead, Sunday, 14 July 2019 06:06 (four years ago) link
That band’s success predicted Trump’s populist victory but what do I know
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 14 July 2019 06:07 (four years ago) link
It’s wild to think this band was playing punk shows in 83http://stevenblush.com/prod/DC/images/NTFlamingLips.jpg
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 14 July 2019 06:14 (four years ago) link
I won a contest guessing the two most played albums of 1984 on KUSF and the first Flaming Lips EP on colored vinyl was one of the prizes. I really loved them back then
― Dan S, Sunday, 14 July 2019 06:50 (four years ago) link
xp think I'm right in saying that they covered DSOTM in full at this very show, so whatever ppl think of their various stunt projects they're not a recent development per se
― wot's the tea mum? (not beef again) (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 14 July 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link
Down - hypnagogic pop
― paolo, Sunday, 14 July 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link
Didn't think Flaming Lips would be that polarizing.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 14 July 2019 11:35 (four years ago) link
Honestly I can't imagine coming to the Flaming Lips for the first time in 2019 and not just cringing at their whole aesthetic. Especially for anyone under 20 those albums would just reek of how lame previous generations could be.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 14 July 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link
some of the worst nauseatingly twee hippy shit I've ever heard, and the NME used to cream themselves over them.
― calzino, Sunday, 14 July 2019 11:45 (four years ago) link
Honestly I can't imagine coming to the Flaming Lips for the first time in 2019 and not just cringing at their whole aesthetic
noisy power-pop-era circa transmissions from the satellite heart holds up regardless of their weird baggage imo
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 July 2019 11:48 (four years ago) link
i also revisited the soft bulletin the other week and it was the most important album in the world to me in high school so i guess i'm doomed to love it forever. i get other people finding it radioactive though
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 July 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link
clouds taste metallic is the one that holds up best
mercury rev were two bands. the first one lasted two albums and was one of the best of its time, the other was mediocre at best and a pile of garbage at worst, and has existed ever since
― imago, Sunday, 14 July 2019 11:58 (four years ago) link
the soft bulletin isn't too bad though - it's considerably better than deserter's songs for a start
― imago, Sunday, 14 July 2019 11:59 (four years ago) link
yes but "superhumans" is their best song
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link
one of the strengths of both Embryonic and The Terror is that Wayne is probably the least obnoxiously goofy he's ever been on those
The Soft Bulletin is alright but has never really lived up to its gigantic reputation to me. skimming through it now there's some good moments and it's a little better than i remember but i still hate "A Spoonful Weighs a Ton" and "Waitin for a Superman"
― ufo, Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:07 (four years ago) link
I remember saying about the Soft Bulletin at the time “finally we have our own Pet Sounds” which was a very 1999 way of thinking. I still like it a lot, especially the second half’s pop meditations on death. I couldn’t get into Yoshimi though.
― L'assie (Euler), Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link
The Soft Bulletin was the beginning of the end for me. Then Yoshimi finished them off, I have listened to some of the stuff after that but just not really interested
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:47 (four years ago) link
some of the worst nauseatingly twee hippy shit I've ever heard
― calzino, Sunday, July 14, 2019 12:45 PM
I get people not being that fond of his vocals but he's not even within miles of worst tweeness of the era.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 14 July 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
Both Mercury Rev and The Flaming Lips are the perennial “oh well you obviously haven’t listened to [insert album here]” bands. Yes I have heard everything, Yerself Is Steam in particular I’ve made many attempts, I chalk up their popularity to there being no other good bands in Buffalo or OKC respectively, and people enjoying music that sounds like the way farts smell, or something else, but they are two completely unjustifiably popular 90s acts that I’m extremely happy to never speak of or listen to again and my day is already ruined by thinking of somebody telling me “oh well you obviously haven’t heard Boces”
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 14 July 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link