love
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:46 (four years ago) link
Incidentally were there any other voters in East Asian/Pacific timezones? Apologies if you too lost sleep while I attempted to post results a bit closer to ILX peak times. :)
New Zealand
― aphoristical, Saturday, 13 July 2019 04:47 (four years ago) link
Top 20 is exactly half Grant and half Robert.
― Alba, Saturday, 13 July 2019 06:53 (four years ago) link
Though if you treat Finding You as a joint song then Robert has the edge but … Grant has the #1 and more of the top 10.
― Alba, Saturday, 13 July 2019 07:03 (four years ago) link
This is amusing. I've done the collation for two artist polls here now. This video features both on the same stage. And then they go and perform a rendition of a song by a further Best Band Ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZrYqEqigCM
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 13 July 2019 08:51 (four years ago) link
XP: NZ! High five!`
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 13 July 2019 08:55 (four years ago) link
My God, somebody slap that cunt, Murdoch.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 July 2019 09:02 (four years ago) link
LOL. You've not grown fonder of B&S in the past six months then!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 13 July 2019 09:07 (four years ago) link
:)
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 July 2019 09:08 (four years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=7dEgNfpKwi8While we're on the subject (sorry Tom), there's a line in their song about the Go-Betweens, Shoot the Sexual Athlete, that says Robert "dressed like Sherlock Holmes". It's very apt but does anyone know if he ever literally did this? And, just as importantly, did Grant dress as Dr Watson?
― Alba, Saturday, 13 July 2019 10:35 (four years ago) link
Belated thanks to Nag! Nag! Nag! for this poll, it's been great fun. I had 'Bachelor Kisses' at #1 but I can't quibble with 'Cattle & Cane' winning, absolutely amazing song, the opening lines are some of my favourite lyrics in all music. Hadn't realised 'Bye Bye Pride' was so widely loved but on reflection it's one I really should have had on my ballot.
― Gavin, Leeds, Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
Nice to see Love Goes On finish so high. That should have been a single.
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
Also IMHO this poll had the single most obvious winner of any poll. Cattle and Cane was always going to win by a comfortable margin
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link
here's my ballot:
Dive For Your MemoryDusty In HereBye Bye PrideAs Long As ThatWas There Anything I Could Do?Draining The Pool For YouA Bad Debt Follows YouCattle and CaneLove Goes On!In The Core of a FlameBachelor KissesStreets Of Your TownYou've Never LivedTwo Steps Step OutSpring RainFive WordsSomeone Else's WifeRight HerePalm Sunday (On Board With The S.S. Within)Love Is a SignHead Full of SteamMan O'Sand to Girl O'SeaHere Comes a CityThat WayI'm AlrightDarlinghurst NightsCloudsThe Old Way OutBorn To A FamilyBy Chance
Albums:Before Hollywood16 Lovers LaneSpring Hill FairTallullahLiberty Belle and the Black Diamond Express
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link
here comes the ballot!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link
I've always wondered about this, never having owned or cared for a swimming pool. Shouldn't it more accurately be Cleaning the Pool for You? I thought that draining is normally done only once or twice a year. It's the drudge work of cleaning a pool at least weekly that a pool boy would get hired for then tired of. Or is it a case where the owner repeatedly needs to have the sucker drained because their debauched pool parties involve broken champagne glasses tossed in? Maybe that's the whole point, and I'm the last to get it?
Not that this has ever bothered my enjoying and loving the song. Draining is certainly more suggestive than prosaic cleaning, and has the added songwriterly benefit of revealing cracks.
― punning display, Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
Robert Forster is just a wastrel who thinks two days of work a year is tiring.
― Alba, Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
I'd imagine in NZ you wouldn't have to drain it at all? ppl do you up here because obv water would freeze
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link
can't speak to the colder island climes of NZ, but in Australia ppl will go years without draining a chlorinated and regularly-maintained pool
thanks and huzzahs to N!N!N! for the poll! as a casual G-Bs enjoyer it's been a great time following along, and I especially appreciate the decision to do a thorough separate solo poll. (something that occurred to me for the first time when I noticed that no Far Out Corporation placed -- is that band the reason that Steve Kilbey cold-called Haug to join The Church sans audition? having long held that P0wderfing3r are the third-worst band in Australia, that was bemusing at the time, but it's not implausible that Kilbey impulsively phoned him on an "anyone good enough for Grant is good enough for me!" principle)
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link
Yeah thanks for this poll, nnn. Still getting into this band myself, but 16LL and Liberty Belle are great and it seems I'm gonna wanna listen to some of the solo stuff as well
― Vinnie, Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link
Inevitable question for sic: what are the two worst bands in Aus?Interesting thought re Haug. I think the FOC record is also the first time either Forster or McLennan worked with Pickvance too. I have no affection whatsoever for that record but am suddenly enjoying the idea that it, of all things, is secretly central to an entire nation's pop music industry. :)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 14 July 2019 01:39 (four years ago) link
silverchair and Something For Kate
I have no affection whatsoever for that record
as far as late-90s Brisbane supergroups go, it knocks The Boat Show into a cocked hat. and having just watched the two videos for the first time, the CGI in If You Want Release >>>> CGI in the Wu-Tang's Triumph video
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 14 July 2019 08:46 (four years ago) link
While most of the Far Out Corporation album is unmemorable, I put this track pretty high on my solo / side projects ballot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04NHQhUsJEA
Another FOC song, 'Suicide at Home', is also good.
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Sunday, 14 July 2019 08:47 (four years ago) link
My ballot:
Cattle and CaneThat WayBachelor KissesPart CompanyBye Bye PrideMan O'Sand to Girl O'Sea (single)Draining the Pool for YouRight HereSpring RainClouds
Streets of Your TownRock and Roll FriendDusty in HereOn My BlockA Bad Debt Follows YouTwo Steps Step OutHead Full of SteamI'm All RightApology AcceptedAs Long As That
Twin Layers of LightningJust a King in MirrorsLove Goes OnLove Is a SignThe Wrong RoadThe Clarke SistersRare BreedThe Ghost and the Black HatDive for Your MemoryBefore Hollywood
Albums:Before HollywoodLiberty Belle and the Black Diamond ExpressSpring Hill FairTallulah16 Lovers LaneSend Me a Lullaby
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 July 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link
My list:
1. Bye Bye Pride2. Bachelor Kisses3. Right Here4. Cattle and Cane5. Part Company6. Lee Remick7. I'm Allright8. People Say9. Going Blind10. The Statue11. Spirit12. Streets of Your Town13. Before Hollywood14. Clouds15. As Long As That16. When People Are Dead17. Spring Ran18. Casanova's Last Words19. Finding You20. German Farmhouse21. Dive For Your Memory22. Slow Slow Music23. Newton Told Me24. The Clock25. Darlinghurst Nights26. Love is a Sign27. You Tell Me28. Two Steps Step Out29. You've Never Lived30. That Way
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link
One thing I've noticed over the years is something of a change of loyalties - It was Grant's songs that initially hooked me into the Go-Betweens and were very much my favourites... but as the years have gone by Robert's capture me much more. I'm listening to Before Hollywood for the first time in years, possibly decades, and this really strikes me. I think it's that Grant's heart-on-his-sleeve style affects me less now I'm older and is more likely to come across as sentimental. Whereas Robert comes at things at more of an angle, he remains a bit more oblique...
― Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link
Same for me.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:20 (four years ago) link
My God though, Before Hollywood is so good! Much better than 16LL, good as that is...
― Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link
Oh yeah, we haven't had all that much posting of ballots, etc...Pretty sure these are my track selections wot didn't make the cut. Proud member of Team Send Me A Lullaby Is Not Worthless, clearly.69 Casanova's Last Words71 Emperor's Courtesan74 Ask79 Newton Told Me82 The Mountains Near Dellray 83 Eight Pictures91 It Could Be Anyone
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 14 July 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
thanks for running the poll!
my ballot, which really should've had to reach me on it:
Finding youGoing blindThe StatueSpirit of a vampyreBye bye prideHope then strifeThe wrong roadThe Clarke sistersBoundary riderYou can’t say no foreverSomeone else’s wifeStreets of your townAs long as thatDarlinghurst nightsSpring rainBorn to a familyThat wayWas there anything I could doLove goes on!I just get caught outThe House jack Kerouac broughtYou tell meGerman farmhouseTwin layers of lightningThis Night’s for youCattle and cane
Oceans aparttallullah16 lovers laneDanger in the pastLiberty belle and the black diamond express
― devvvine, Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link
Grant's solo career has at last clicked for me in a big way in the last month or so. But I can't get away from thinking this
https://img.discogs.com/39EAhdwLjXmnAtAzWCSLjBg7ni0=/fit-in/541x474/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2250743-1272378366.jpeg.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PN_vlrY18Jg/WapOKUGRAjI/AAAAAAABow4/x_UUqs7HeC4yAOnxOYu1MpSvGuyIrdnlwCLcBGAs/s1600/Jim%2BDiamond%2B-%2BI%2BShould%2BHave%2BKnown%2BBetter.jpg
― PaulTMA, Monday, 15 July 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
I am not surprised by the winner but I think they have about fifty songs which I prefer. Here are my three ballots.
Songs (unranked): Apology Accepted Bachelor Kisses Caroline & I The City of Lights The Clock Crystal Shacks Dive for Your Memory Finding You Heart and Home He Lives My Life Here Comes a City Love Goes on! Magic in Here Make Her Day Mrs Morgan Quiet Heart Something for Myself The Statue This Night’s for You Streets of Your Town Surfing Magazines Too Much of One Thing Was There Anything I Could Do? Woman Across the Way Your Turn, My Turn
Solo etc. (unranked): Crazy Jane on the Day of Judgement (Forster) Demon Days (Forster) Did She Overtake You (Forster) Fingers (McLennan) Haven’t Been a Fool (McLennan) Let Your Light in, Babe (Forster) Lighting Fires (McLennan) No Fame (Forster) No Peace in the Palace (McLennan) Turn on the Rain (Forster)
Albums (ranked): Bright Yellow, Bright Orange 16 Lovers Lane The Friends of Rachel Worth Oceans Apart Send Me a Lullabye
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
Concerning revisions by now I would put Before Hollywood in the album ballot.
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link
One thing that didn't make my albums list, because it doesn't really fit, is the bonus disc that came with That Striped Sunlight Sound. It's McLennan and Forster with acoustic guitars going through:
Lee Remick Cattle And Cane Part Company Bachelor Kisses Head Full Of Steam Bye Bye Pride Dive For Your Memory German Farmhouse Too Much Of One Thing Here Comes A City Finding You
and telling stories. It's well worth watching if you're a fan - more essential than the main live disc at the Tivoli.
― aphoristical, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link
songs
Twin Layers of LightningStreets of Your TownSpring RainQuiet HeartI'm All RightCattle and CaneBye Bye PrideBoundary RiderHead Full of SteamThe House That Jack Kerouac BuiltBachelor KissesLove Goes OnPart CompanyNo Reason to CryHe Lives My LifeWas There Anything I Could Do?This Girl, Black GirlYou've Never LivedThe Wrong RoadThe Sound of RainBorn to a FamilyAs Long As ThatCarelessOld MexicoFive WordsThe ClockApology AcceptedThat WayThe StatueMagic in Here
albums
Liberty Belle & the Black Diamond Express16 Lovers LaneOceans ApartSpring Hill FairTallulahBefore HollywoodThe Friends of Rachel WorthHorsebreaker StarSongs to PlaySend Me A Lullaby
― geoffreyess, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
Perhaps we could have a quick round up of Go-Bs soundalikes. Someone mentioned "The Sun a Small Star" by The Servants upthread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2R-dV6uwYk
and I'm going to throw in "When Daddy Blows His Top" by Frontier Scouts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDYhjZGI7Cs
― fetter, Friday, 19 July 2019 08:29 (four years ago) link
Going to have to seek more Frontier Scouts methinks!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 19 July 2019 11:28 (four years ago) link
I think I suggested in the other thread that the Servants sounded like ever earlier GBs as time went on. Didn't realise there was an official video for this excellent example. I understand one of those there people is Luke Haines!?
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 19 July 2019 11:52 (four years ago) link
I know Trembling Blue Stars (the Field Mice chap) named Her Handwriting after "Part Company", though I don't recall an obvious resemblance.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 19 July 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link
there's also, uh, the goon sax
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Friday, 19 July 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link
I was once told Rolling Blackouts Coastal Fever sounded like the Go-Betweens but better. The first part proved sort of true, the latter not.
― Alba, Friday, 19 July 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
I don't hear many similarities myself: the rhythms, uh, roll too powerfully for a Go-Be's album, and they run out of tunes quickly.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 July 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link
otm re: RBCF.
Re: The Frontier Scouts: They were from Brisbane—there's a compilation. Grant and Lindy play on two tracks (it was a 7" single if I remember correctly), and Robert wrote the liner notes.
― nerve_pylon, Friday, 19 July 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link
Correction—I see they formed in Sydney.
― nerve_pylon, Friday, 19 July 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link
Oh yeah! I've been meaning to pay proper attention to that comp. Thanks.Re RBCF, it's never been clear to me that they resemble the GBs much more than they resemble... I don't know... The Feelies or The Clean.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 19 July 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link
Big shout out to the other person who voted for I Had A New York Girlfriend. Forster described the collection of cover versions as "the one mistake of my recording career", but it's a great album to relax to with a glass of wine in your hand. He interprets other people's songs with the same degree of empathy with which he writes about them as a journalist, and the band (including Mick Harvey, Warren Ellis, Clare Moore, Conway Savage & 'Evil' Graham Lee) are strong too.
Here's a chunk of Dave Graney's weekly community radio show from late last month (recorded during a supporter drive) - about half an hour in, he prompts Clare Moore for amusing memories from the recording of the album.
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 16 September 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link
Box set vol 2 up for pre-order - missed the first one but couldnt resist this onehttps://www.dominomusic.com/releases/the-go-betweens/g-stands-for-go-betweens-the-go-betweens-anthology-volume-two/box-set
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 10 October 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link
aka the tinypic thread
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link
Ooh at the Go-betweens versions of songs that ended up on Danger In The Past.
― Alba, Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
Tinypic announced they were shutting down about the time I posted the final image. I considered requesting short term edit privileges or whatever, but I don't imagine that's actually a thing.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 11 October 2019 06:52 (four years ago) link