Morrissey is a racist

Who is the band on bottom centre?

Really need to get around to that second Christian Death album sometime.

I think I read Siouxsie talk about the swastika but not sure. Also heard she fell out with Morrissey over him wanting to use a british bulldog+flag in their music video and she said she loathed the idea, hated the gross patriotism.

45 Grave

Looking good.

What I've read from Siouxie about the swastika/too many Jews for my liking was a really shit copout tbh like why are you guys still going on about that, no actual apology or anything, but maybe I missed it

I cant trust my memory on this but I think she said something along those lines and then followed with "Dido's inoffensiveness offends me".

She definitely said the latter part.

Inexplicable skywriting this morning:

https://i.imgur.com/GsnKX8M_d.jpg

crazy that they can fly backwards like that

I'm going to assume that was actually meant for morrisp and the pilot couldn't spell

"Signed, Morrissey."

plane rong imo

Here’s someone who got a pic in a completely different part of town:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0qvl60pYct/?igshid=1sbi07t2q2g8m

Turns out tickets for a Morrissey/Interpol show at the Hollywood Bowl went on sale today.

Not enough of a racist to be prevented from headlining festivals in California, apparently:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQhSWKMVUAAXNof?format=jpg&name=large

That looks like one of those classic rock festivals with an average of 1.2 original members per band. In the UK they put them on at out-of-season holiday camps. Do Americans not generally know about his attitudes?

As far as I can tell, most of them are blissfully unaware of his bigotry or are vaguely aware of some incident that may or may not have occurred a decade ago. Speaking as someone with no interest whatsoever in his solo career but who mostly enjoys The Smiths' classic albums, I had no idea how bad it was before reading about it on ILM.

P4k have reported on his racism, and - checks - continues to mention it, even in a short write-up about a new song or album being released. Good on them. Him wearing a 'fuck the graun' shirt while on tour in America will not make waves there as it does over here probably. Still, if you're the person who buys tickets to a Morrissey show in 2020, it's hard to imagine you don't by now know he's a racist piece of shit.

Yeah, nü-p4k has done a good job on this front. And I assume this:

if you're the person who buys tickets to a Morrissey show in 2020, it's hard to imagine you don't by now know he's a racist piece of shit

…is sadly otm.

I am very much a separate art from artist person, but his racism has ruined basically all his solo work for me. I used to love him too.

tbf this racist cunt has never wanted his art separated from his persona

having Morrissey and the Graun on the right and left of the cultural theater of war is a perfect illustration of how meaningless a culture war is when both sides completely suck shite.

xp yeah that’s my point, it’s very personal in a way that some people’s art isn’t

Do Americans not generally know about his attitudes?

It's almost as if racism only exists if it's in an American context.

Idk I think Americans would understand the comments about Chinese people and all his anti-black stuff.

Proof of the pudding.

Fandom notwithstanding, Morrissey is a nonentity in North America.

Fandom notwithstanding, Morrissey is a nonentity everywhere.

There it is.

I saved time and money by hating him from the get-go

That's quite a line-up, particularly JAY ASTON'S GENE LOVES JEZEBEL.

you wouldn't want to get the wrong Gene Loves Jezebel

Aside from Morrissey and Christian Death, I would be very into this lineup

...ah OK, I thought it was a misprint; didn't realise GLJ had a Jay Aston as well as Buck's Fizz.

David Van Day's Gene Loves Jezebel.
All that's missing from that line-up is Balaam & The Angel, I wonder if they're chartering a flight to bring them all out from the UK? Piloted by Buster Bloodvessel, maybe.

looks like another rockin' day at Dignity Health Sports Park

i know it's payday for them and i don't really understand how these things work but it is disappointing to see a lot of those people appearing on the same bill as morrissey. like 40 years ago the beat were playing gigs for rock against racism, now they're sharing a stage with this turnip. can't imagine they're particularly happy about that though tbh

Green Day in the Graun the other day about their Moz collab:

“I wasn’t aware until the song came out,” says Armstrong. “We do the song, and he was very lovely, and then the song comes out and a lot of Brits were like: what the hell are you doing? I really did not have a clue … ” Bewitched by the singer’s status as an 80s indie godhead, he simply failed in his due diligence. Cool pipes up, giggling: “Hey, we’ve all got our Ted Nugents, right?” – a reference to the US rocker and gun enthusiast.

By the way, this isn't solely an American thing, he could just as easily play a festival in the UK, doubtful if he'd top the bill though.

But I don't want any Ted Nugents

Ted Nugents should be hunted to extinction

Sucks about all the other bands turning a blind eye to this. I'm sure at least 95% of them know.

If you loved the Smiths and liked a couple of Morrissey albums in high school, that doesn’t mean you kept up with all his occasional racist lyrics, let alone his decades of public racism and racism-adjacent posturing. This is probably the situation for 90+% of younger bands that ostensibly revere him.

tbh you lost me with "liked a couple of Morrissey albums in high school"

*climbs off of "I've been calling Morrissey a racist since 1988" hobby horse*

plz can someone explain exactly how big Bad Manners are in the US? and also why?

DJP OTM. This hasn't been a secret.

the answer to both nickb's qs is surely ska

lol why i am posting abt buster bloodvessel instead of cornelius cardew doing the very detailed and deadlined work i'm being inadequately paid for

special brew
i love you
gonna write abt
cornelius cardew

I assume everyone is aware that this is in Los Angeles, where Morrissey has a massive latino following that doesn't care about his racist antics in the UK press. Combine that with the smaller audience of LA Gen X goths that are likely go for the nostalgia value, this is a perfectly understandable bill.

a massive latino following that doesn't care about his racist antics in the UK press

Have never heard of this (am neither British nor American fwiw).

Why wouldn't they care at all?