when the levy breaks: summer transfer window 2019

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Wondering if the 'sideways' comment is acceptable to Tottenham ILXspurs fans.

― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:16 (twenty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

i for one am enjoying even the opportunity for such magnanimity tbh, its lovely up here

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link

My "sideways" was a ref to deems's "history and all that say its level at present" fwiw. I try not to get into "which club's bigger" anymore because I can't make sense of the arguments involved; was happy to rely on the opinion of a hairy expert.

Tim, Friday, 12 July 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link

* trying desperately not to make a comment about Exeter City *

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link

anyways spending even five mins imagining such a dilemma has put me in right good form tbh

now pondering a transfer-column style breathless reporting of rumours linking me with a move to the office of public works

"he likes their style of operating, but the location on the southside could be an issue for him, we hear"

"the salary package is fine, but the departments are wrangling over the final details and hes asked for a window desk which will upset a number of long-serving incumbents"

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

two bald men fighting over a rome at this stage

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link

"there was a fall-out in the weekly team meeting in which two cups of coffee were spilled"

Tim, Friday, 12 July 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

xp haha

Tim, Friday, 12 July 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

griezemann to barca is done?

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

Apparently, which makes Neymar seem far more unlikely to me but fuck it, small club mentality

jou're much too jung, girl (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 July 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

BREAKING - #AtleticoMadrid confirm they are taking #FCBarcelona to court on signing of Antoine Griezmann, they believe they are entitled to an extra €80m https://t.co/3LtlBZBggO pic.twitter.com/168zwRkjPb

— footballespana (@footballespana_) July 12, 2019

Number None, Friday, 12 July 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

Juventus 'complete £63m deal for Ajax star Matthijs de Ligt' https://t.co/An6xS6tS3d

— MailOnline Sport (@MailSport) July 12, 2019

Number None, Friday, 12 July 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

Bruno Génésio is currently in England for talks to become Newcastle manager on a 4-year contract.

(Source: Le Progrès) pic.twitter.com/ruyRPMTEkJ

— Transferchanger (@TransferChanger) July 16, 2019

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

Sensible to pick a manager with strong experience of being hated by his own supporters and, on occasion, players.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

So is Steve Bruce standing outside St James's Park with a suitcase having told his wife he's leaving her?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link

shes turned the toons agin me

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

Trippier to Atletico Madrid looks like a done deal as well.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

yes saw that

you see it being backfilled by aurier/kwp/~~foyth~~ or dyou think theyd like a good right back

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

My understanding is that Aurier is up for sale as well. I like KWP but it still feels too early for him, Foyth should be nowhere near the team.

So yeah I'm guessing we're buying one. RB and central midfield were our main problem positions last year.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

of the two id have trippier ahead of aurier certainly, even before wages

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

Weird one, Trippier doesn't seem near the level ATM aspire. Who'll be his replacement?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link

depends on whether you think last season was purely post-russia groin strain induced

i mean what even is a good full back now? theyre all shit afaict.

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

Fair point. Trippier's not better than Arias though, so not sure why they'd go for Trip.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

I feel like it's easy to assume that under performance in the Prem won't define your ability in other top flight Euro leagues

jou're much too jung, girl (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

Given that "under" is a question of perception in any context, D

jou're much too jung, girl (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

also think that full back is a position pochs tactic asks so much of that the difference between "walker is now worth 55m"(when 55m was a lot) and "how can this fool who started the cl final possibly move to a big club" is really marginal.

its a horribly exposed position with huge asks in both attack and defence and if you make a slip our centres and goalie havent been great at covering, but facts is that trippier has had a year of slips and as a result his stock is probably undeservedly low.

still kinda impressed at the move. fair play to him.

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

tbf every manager on earth's tactics ask so much of a full back. it's a brutal position and you can't do it right really.

and of course, fair play to him.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

Rooon locked in a helpless reverie right now

jou're much too jung, girl (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

:D

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

I hear that Andy Robertson guy is not shit.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

Though he might be if played for Spurs, of course.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

lfc have two crackers for sure but they have a good gk

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

The other big difference between World Cup Trippier and last season's Trippier is that England played in a back five with Walker there to cover for him.

Trippier's main assets are the quality and accuracy of his cross and his ability with a dead ball and as an old fashioned English winger he might have worked well but high level teams don't play with them any more.

For a while it looked like Poch intended to go with a back five but without Dembele our squad lacked the really commanding midfielder who can protect them.

Probably the best analogue is the role Victor Moses played under Conte. No one thought Moses was a world class right back but he did exceptionally well in a team where everyone knew their role and they never needed to rotate. Moses could go forward because he had two (at the time) excellent recovery defenders in Azpilicueta and Cahill and an erratic but talented one in David Luiz whose mistakes they could also cover for. They also had probably the world's best defensive midfielder in Kante and we haven't come close to finding a player like that. On the other side Marcos Alonso also had an amazing season and hasn't played quite as consistently well as that since.

The closest parallel to that excellent recovery defender in the Spurs squad is Sanchez who has also the pace and ability but is still cutting out his own mistakes. Better to trade up for a proper well rounded right back rather than wait for Sanchez to progress to the level when he can reliably bail Trippier out.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 08:04 (four years ago) link

Bruce appointed at Newcastle after all. Rondon sounds like he's off to Dalian and Perez has already gone to Leicester. Joselu has also left. I think that leaves Gayle as their only striker.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 09:27 (four years ago) link

Great, a season of Bruce's earnest regretful whinging, "You don't like to be critical, they've got a hard job to do, but...". When I say 'season' I mean until he's sacked, of course.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 09:35 (four years ago) link

amazing stuff

imago, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 09:35 (four years ago) link

Tbf he's got an excellent track record in the Champo

jou're much too jung, girl (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 09:37 (four years ago) link

I think that leaves Gayle as their only striker.

Yoshinori Muto is still there iirc.

Bruce couldn't have happened to a nicer club tbf.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link

My theory is that Bruce's championship record is inflated somewhat by him usually going where a decent amount of bunce is being chucked about and then leaving/getting sacked when it's gone. This pattern started when he fucked off the blades for tinpot Hudds just as we'd been bought out by a wealthy benefactor. I'll never believe he's even a half decent manager.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link

rondon already gone i thought
gayles going to stoke too isnt he?

nxd, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link

as long as Rondon goes anywhere other than the Wolves i'm happy

jou're much too jung, girl (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link

3-0 to the Wanderers

jou're much too jung, girl (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link

matt 100% re trippier

the newcastle disaster of 2020 is so inevitable and reliably predictable at every juncture that it will be like watching it on replay as it happens, déjà tun

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link

BruceOut# trending much faster than our nauseating bookie kit sponsor's attempt at lame advertising bantz, literally within minutes of him being unveiled.

calzino, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link

are the saying boooooooo or broooooooceouuut

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 11:28 (four years ago) link

West Ham pay 45m for Sebastian Haller o_O

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/15/west-ham-sebastian-heller-eintracht-frankfurt-transfer-window

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link

He was really good last season but idk how much of that was down to the Jovic / Rebic / Haller partnership.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link

I know him from his spell at Utrecht, during which he was already impressive. Hate to see a quality player like that end up at WHU.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link

They have made two good signings this summer and appear to be doing an anti-Newcastle which is disappointing behaviour from the Premier League's second best comedy club.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link

tbf, Anderson / Diop / Yarmalenko was a good summer for them last year too.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

I think people are being harsh on Steve Bruce. He'll have a good chunk of the summer to make his mark on the team, assess the gaps in the squad and then spend the entire transfer budget on Yannick Bolasie on deadline day or whatever

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link


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