Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

Yes indeed

Has anyone attempted to compile a two-disc "best of the Complete Matrix Tapes" playlist with the best versions of all the songs that are duplicated on it? This stuff is so great but I'm not sure I need four versions of Heroin.

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Yes, the super deluxe edition of the third album has this exact thing

Perfect, thanks!

Wow that Enoch Light track slays

Retweeted by Ned today:

Lou Reed is spokesman for the Velvet Underground at a literature and electronic media class run by Dr Joseph Kruppa at Texas University, 23 October 1969. 'Because of media censorship, nobody has heard any real music, nothing to make your hair stand on end.' Daily Texan 24 Oct 69 pic.twitter.com/vcs9Jr1Wnx

— Arthur (@ratherarthur) August 3, 2020

Was that in tandem with those Dallas ‘69 videos that are broken upthread?

Sort of. Same tour. This thing was in Austin.

Checking upthread, this was the next week.

https://recordmecca.com/wp-content/uploads/mqc/1063_large_2.jpg

Cool. Did they end up taking Emitt Rhodes to lunch at the end of that tour?

They were supposed to, but only Doug showed up to meet Emitt at the Taco Bell.

Lol

that gig poster is dancing perilously close to Horrible 70s album titles like I've Got My Own Album To Do territory

May 11, 1965
Pickwick Studios, near Long Island City, New York

John Cale - Lou Reed - Jerry Vance or Jimmie Sims

1. Buzz Buzz Buzz (one complete take + a couple of attempts breaking down)
2. Why Don't You Smile Now
3. Heroin (take 1)
4. Heroin (take 2)
5. Untitled Piano Piece 1
6. Untitled Piano Piece 1

this has been mentioned elsewhere on ILM, but i just encountered this swedish garage group's cover of "why don't you smile now" from 1967, two years after the all night workers 45. and it's cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=dyaus17wWZ4
Downliners Sect ‎– Why Don't You Smile Now

https://img.discogs.com/5NUMPrDUwuxq0hy5fD9_0eC2a50=/fit-in/600x604/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-8916819-1471422077-4109.jpeg.jpg

Cool

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfFp0DnU0AAQHTU?format=jpg&name=900x900

1963

Nice! Somehow never knew or remembered his middle name.

Downliners Sect weren't Swedish, they were a C-Team Brit Blues band that lucked into the All-Night Workers tape while looking for obscure US R&B songs to cover. It later popped up on Rhino's Nuggets II box.

IIRC tho, there was a Swede Garage cover of The Sect's version.

right, i slipped up because as far as i can tell that particular downliners sect 7" only had a swedish release. anyway the "nuggets ii" inclusion explains why it sounded strangely familiar ...

Well, it's a nice to own, that single.

(I don't, and I know neither do you, but.)

https://img.discogs.com/PSvLs63xRvw3I2T3Ie-dsTLvCuE=/fit-in/498x496/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1968470-1276709142.jpeg.jpg

... somebody had good memories of that summer at Tanglewood.

Interestingly Downliners Sect reformed in the wake of punk and recorded a session for John Peel in 1977.

did anybody spring for this ?

I Met Myself In A Dream… That's the Story of the Third Album (The Velvet Underground Appreciation Society)
M.C. Kostek, Alfredo García, and Ignacio Juliá

https://inevitablevucatalogue.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/cover-front.jpg

on a related note, i'm wondering if there are enough discographies / sessionographies / etc. to merit themselves a bibliography (print and online) of all the different sources that have come to inform our collective knowledge of the "complete VU" (including pre-VU curiosities and juvenilia).

it's my understanding (and i'm happy to be corrected here) that richie unterberger's WL/WH is more or less the final say on the matter, although i imagine that even this towering achievement could be aided by supplemental material. even so, it would be interesting to chart how the "what goes on" VUAS zines evolved into MC kostek's "VU handbook," to catalogue the iterations of olivier landemaine's web page, to highlight the role of non-VU work shedding light (branden w. joseph's "beyond the dream syndicate"), etc. has this been done, here or elsewhere ?

probably not, but I agree!

well, there's this, for starters

http://olivier.landemaine.free.fr/vu/biblio/books/books.html

Current edition of Uncut has some interesting stuff in on the band taht i don't think I've seen tapped before. new interview with Jonathon Richman who saw them 60 or 70x, One With Doug Yule , stuff on the final post-Lou line up.
Ties in with forthcoming documentary by Todd Haynes,

I posted about this in another thread, but yeah, it's a pretty great issue to my understanding. (I only read the Haynes interview, which someone posted.)

The Jonathan Richman's bit is a long piece written by him, not an interview. He's good! Entertaining and informative.

Richman's piece is worth the price of admission alone ...

Also cracked me up to see my name in the same font size at the bottom haha.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwmzNYcUUAAsgbd?format=jpg&name=medium

dude tyler congrats for real!

woo!

That’s my brother Tyler on typeface.

haha, thank you — it's really a glorified sidebar, but I'll take it!

that's AWESOME! seriously, that's a sick set of names to be bolded with!

Should have said:
That’s my brother Tyler on boldface.

Nice that you included a “Squeeze” track, that’s a first

Tyler is a world renowned Velvets expert so who else would Uncut turn to?

I don't know who those other people are, I'm only buying it for the TylerW list.

Totally random, but I was just channel surfing and briefly landed at the beginning of a Crossing Jordan rerun that was soundtracked by the '69 Live version of "We're Gonna Have A Real Good Time Together".

1969 Velvet Underground Live lost a lot of its value since its original release, thanks to official and bootleg releases, but it's still a great live album.

My favorite of the Yule era is still La Cave in 1968 (not long after he replaced Yule). I wish there was a soundboard recording where Lou's vocals and Mo's drums come in clearer, but "What Goes On" is amazing on there, especially Lou's insane guitar break towards the end. Great stuff from an Ornette Coleman fan, they had the good sense to include it on the Peel Slowly box from the '90s.

*not long after he replaced Cale

1969 Live is probably still my preferred way to hear that late '69 stuff — it's just ingrained in my skull at this point. But I'm glad to have it all. They should put out all the Cole Ave stuff officially, not sure why that hasn't happened yet.

*not long after he replaced Cale

Four days after he replaced Cale, I believe.

The sequencing on 1969 Live is perfect. The Matrix box is great and all, but the original album...it takes you on a journey.

They should put out all the Cole Ave stuff officially, not sure why that hasn't happened yet.

OTMFM

is there any other Cale era stuff reputed to exist?
THOught I heard taht he himself might be sitting on some stuff a few years ago.

INteresting noting Jonathan Richman's comments on his bassplaying since there is so little of it around. Would like to hear more.

There's some more Gymnasium stuff (I think another show, same setlist?), but I think anything else is likely audience recordings.