But he's already at the tail end of the relationship! He wants out! And by all indications he would have broken up with her had her family not died horribly. So yeah, he's a coward, but, like, would breaking up with her after her tragedy had made him ... a better boyfriend?
I don't see him trying to get the upper hand, and see him trying to find a way out, even though he couldn't be more clear about the signals he is sending. Like, she literally imposes herself onto his (not easy!) dudes trip he planed without her knowing, with people she doesn't even like and who definitely don't like her. Who does that?!
But yeah, he did forget her birthday, so death justified, I guess.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link
Wait, this was a movie?!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
*Smart Hulk spreads arms* "Midsommar!"
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
this thread has been jic'd
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link
It’s been jfc’d at least
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
*jumps off cliff*
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link
Well, I had to ji see it first, but mission accomplished.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link
*watches phantom thread* now that’s hardly a solid basis for a successful relationship, total plot hole
ftr im not demanding slavish realism from this movie or knocking it for being 'unrealistic' or w/e, i get that its a surreal art horror movie, just specifically quibbling w/the arguments that part of why its good is that its narratively satisfying to watch that guy die.
― One Eye Open, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
tbf seeing anyone in a bear costume is innately satisfying.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
also can't go wrong with crones chanting, pastoral setting, processional music, rituals, costumes etc -- there are a lot of things to like about this movie that make me not care whether or not he actually deserved to die or was a bad boyfriend. he was a mediocre disappointment of a boyfriend.
at the end i don't think she was getting "revenge on her monster boyfriend" as much as reveling in whatever bizarre trip her life had become since losing her family all at once. at least that's what was on my mind when i saw her smile. her disappointment of a boyfriend getting burnt (inside a bear corpse!) was just the latest development.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
should have ended with her turning to the camera and shrugging.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link
lol, same ending credits song though :)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link
gotta admit when they cut to him with his face sticking out of the bear mouth my first thought was "wow, perfect fit!"
― One Eye Open, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
Anyway, I see he's started working on his next film.
This is an r/relationships post from the SA peanut gallery thread because the original was deleted. You will not regret reading this one although you might scream. 🐀🐀🐀🐀 pic.twitter.com/nIt12atnqI— Horrendous Jake Kablooie (@JakeMHS) July 10, 2019
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link
http://www.magiclanternpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/wm_cat_masks_window_eep.jpg"We can't wait!"
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link
Aster's writing is sloppy and pretty horribly paced, and this was way overlong, but I didn't care. So thematically and symbolically rich, and wonderfully executed on every level. And lingeringly unnerving.
I do wonder if his starting point was to take some of the least threatening things imaginable, incredibly pleasant Scandanavian people and sunny fields, and make them sinister.
― chap, Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
Her boyfriend was a huge fucking dickhead by the way.
― chap, Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
I watched this last night and I'm going to give it 3 bags of popcorn. Maybe throw in a soda for the trippy visuals.
― . (Michael B), Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link
A musical thought: Know what this movie was missing for me? Trad Gras och Stenar/international Harvester/Parson Sound Swedish hippies playing droney jams. Did I miss them far off in a corner somewhere? Don’t these ppl like to zone out?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
Zz
― circa1916, Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link
The druggy bonhomie that they first experience upon arrival had a definite euro raver vibe, so I expected bangin dance music of some description rather than underground free folk.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link
yeah i thought so too -- that vibe does not last very long. maybe it is a joke about burning man?idk
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
You all will have to wait for Gaspar Noe's Midsommer.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
How about Noe
― Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
One thing I've been amused by in the published talk around the film is the occasional mention of the 'amazing Scandinavian landscape' or the like. Setting, yes, but the filming was in Hungary -- as I realized as soon as the credits rolled and approximately 8000 Hungarian names appeared at once. (I did like how the credits were laid out, BTW -- also, a quiet point, has anyone said anything about the specific choice of Frankie Valli's "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore" instead of the Walker Bros?)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
Yes, why that version and why that song?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
what does it mean Ned!
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
GREAT MYSTERIES.
(Choice of song seems obvious lyrically? Busted up relationship, sunshine, etc.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
I figured it was an oldie to lighten the mood
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
Should have been "Walk of Life."
You know what was extra weird, per Ned's observation? The number of reviews I've read that point out the amazing Scandinavian landscape *and* note that it was actually filmed in Hungary. Witchcraft!!!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
It’s another variation on something he did last time (can’t remember offhand which 60s pop song played over hereditary’s credits) xp
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link
Joni Mitchell song?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link
Iirc, this one ended with a few extra beats of black before the music and credits began.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
Oh yeah how could I forget xp
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
Hereditary ended with "Both Sides Now" but not the Joni version
― flappy bird, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
Nice Nu metal cover of happy together for the triumvirate, best filmmaker working
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link
Ah yes!! No wonder this seemed so familiar to me!! It was the Judy Collins version! How could I forget??
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link
I felt the same way about the usage of that song — an oldie to lighten the mood. Lol.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link
Yeah it was literally the same move again, you gotta love it
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link
I will concede that this trick was not good enough to be employed twice consecutively. Coulda tried a little more imo.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link
Probably couldn't afford the rights to the Partridge Family theme. Weirdly apt (in an obviously ironic way):
"Hello world, hear the song that we're singin'Come on, get happyA whole lotta lovin' is what we'll be bringin'We'll make you happy
We had a dream we'd go travelin' togetherAnd spread a little lovin', then we'll keep movin' onSomethin' always happens whenever we're togetherWe get a happy feelin' when we're singin' a song
Travelin' along, there's a song that we're singin'Come on, get happyA whole lotta lovin' is what we'll be bringin'We'll make you happyWe'll make you happyWe'll make you happy"
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
xp Haha well I was childishly pleased by the similarity but I listened to the Film Comment podcast interview with aster (recommend to all) and it makes me think he probably has a fairly well thought-through reason for picking that song for this
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link
I’m sure there’s a reason but it’s like an overly fussed over playlist or mixtape. It’s a lil embarrassing to use the same trick 2x in a row.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
Tbf There are a ton of elements the two movies share. I know the first time around he played it really coy about some sort of horrible personal backstory or something that informed the film, but I don't think he ever spilled the beans.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link
Man it sucks when artists have traits and preferences
― Simon H., Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
Not really! It’s fine to have traits and preferences even if you’re not an artist :)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link
I like traits and preferences (even this guy's)! I was just reacting to people commenting on the same sort of use of a sunny song at the end as chaser. There are lots of traits and preferences he repeats so far, some very distinctive.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
anyone else find the prologue of this movie incredibly offensive
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 12 July 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link
but i thought the rest of it was much better than hereditary. a very successful cathartic exercise. cried at the group screaming scene
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 12 July 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link
Offensive because of the bipolar - > murder-suicide aspect?
― Simon H., Friday, 12 July 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link