hey Alfred, what chart stuff are you referring to with Can I, Hard Knock etc not charting? they felt like such bigger hits than the stuff on that list
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link
i think he means the period (the entire 1990s basically) where airplay had much more of an influence on charts than sales because people just didn't buy CD singles.
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link
MTV play likely made up a lot of that ubiquity; feels like there was a time when big pimpin was on 24-7
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
it's the reverse situation, actually, at least in the 90s. cd (and cassette) singles were actually doing quite strong numbers all the way through that decade, and plenty of the biggest titles on the hot 100 were being driven overwhelmingly by their retail performance, especially those whose airplay was coming primarily from formats that were at the time not represented in the hot 100's formula. the situation that complicated the charts during that decade was that labels, in an effort to maximize album sales, were dramatically reducing the number of radio singles that they would actually release to retail. because billboard, until the end of 1998, stipulated that singles could only appear on the hot 100 if they were available in stores, this ended up meaning that at any given time before that rule revision, many of the most omnipresent hits of the day were not listed on the hot 100 at all -- a complete picture of the nation's biggest hits could only be gleaned by looking at the hot 100 and its airplay component chart (where the retail-absent hits could be found) together.
some other hits' hot 100 showings were driven by a sort of compromise between being fully retail-available (and thus presumably cutting away at album sales) and being retail-unavailable, even after the eligibility requirements were changed. the three non-top-10 singles alfred mentions in the post are good illustrations: both "can i get a..." and "big pimpin'" were available only on 12-inch vinyl (so they would have qualified for listing on the hot 100 even under its old rules), but had very minimal sales powering their placement (for instance, "can i get a..." was a top 10 airplay hit but stopped at #19 on the hot 100). "hard knock life" was in the same situation... for most of its chart run. two months after its airplay peak -- it had already fallen entirely off the hot 100 and the airplay chart -- cd and cassette versions of the single were finally released to stores, so it re-entered the hot 100 and reached its peak of #15 with essentially no airplay behind it.
another common strategy at the time was to manufacture a limited quantity of a single -- often 500,000 units, the minimum required for a gold certification -- then sell it at rock-bottom price to ensure that virtually no copies would be left by the time the single reached its airplay peak, thus leaving consumers with no option but the album. (in the meantime, its lofty soundscan numbers would hopefully ensure an eye-popping chart debut.) essentially, labels were frequently operating under the assumption that it was best for a big airplay hit to be absent from retail at the peak of its exposure. sometimes they could manage an impressive-looking chart peak while trying to pull off that maneuver, and sometimes they instead pulled off something that just looks bizarre in retrospect.
from late 2001 thru 2005, it largely did not matter what configurations, if any, a single was available in, as the retail singles market had essentially been killed off and virtually every single on the chart was being driven almost entirely by airplay. 2005 was the year digital download sales started being counted for the hot 100.
― dyl, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link
Yeah guys, duh!
― stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 03:34 (four years ago) link
lol sry i always go way too deep on the charts shite
― dyl, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 04:27 (four years ago) link
(I actually think it’s rly interesting, I didn’t know all that)
― stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 04:34 (four years ago) link
Also worth noting that Hard Knock Life is still his biggest hit worldwide until Empire State Of Mind, the low US chart placing is a bit of an anomaly.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link
God I still remember seeing the video for Dead Presidents on BET, absolutely floored me....got goosebumps
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
i loved when rappers aspired to lexus's
― big city slam (Spottie), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link
happy b-day!https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/jay-z-back-catalogue-albums-spotify-a4304016.html
― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link
let's try and guess jigga's biggest hit in 24h
― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 11:44 (four years ago) link
lol i had no idea they weren't on there already
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link
― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, December 4, 2019 6:44 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
the data will be skewed cause it looks like they kept whatever the play totals were when the songs dropped off spotify
― jacquees, full of cobras (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link
it kinda sucks Jay is like Aerosmith now, there's a whole generation that isn't familiar with any of the work that made him great
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
i for one am listening to reasonable doubt
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link
had to go straight to vol 1. i still get proud thinking about our jay z poll results. JAY-Z ILM TRACKS POLL RESULTS - WORD TO THE HYPHEN IN MY NAME
― de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
it's funny, i have all this shit in my itunes but i still got excited that i'd be able to listen on spotify
― jacquees, full of cobras (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
Listening to In My Lifetime Vol. 1 in the first time in forever, goddamn he was just unreal back then
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
OTM
― Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link
same
― de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link
convenience is convenient
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown),
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
seemed appropriate on this red letter day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q56pcwcl_k
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link
p cool there are acapella albums uphttps://open.spotify.com/album/0HsBuTvi6wWDj66sSbvA4H?si=wuicY87tSw6pfNXTlDWf-g
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 5 December 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link
jay discussion on the rip kanye thread got me going back to some of his early stuff. i found something kind of weird. it seems the remix for "can't knock the hustle" (the with the melissa morgan sample that got it's own single) is nowhere to be found online. don't know if it's because of sample clearance issues or what (morgan performed on the remix, so that seems like a non-issue). closest thing i can find is a fan remake of the beat on youtube (which is pretty accurate, as i remember). there's a version of reasonable doubt on spotify that has it listed as an unplayable 15th track. oh well.
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Monday, 14 February 2022 17:40 (two years ago) link
it's probably on tidal
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Monday, 14 February 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link
ahh, could be. just weird that it's not even on youtube.
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Monday, 14 February 2022 20:19 (two years ago) link
Can't Find the Hustle
― sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 February 2022 20:33 (two years ago) link
Lol
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:10 (two years ago) link
I found that funnier than I should’ve tbh
that would piss me off, that's my fav song on the album. sets the tone so well. literally every Jay Z skeptic that I try to convert, I play that song first
― sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:16 (two years ago) link
i have this on 12 inch, so classic, just babies rhyming - jay is so fluid, unreal flow back then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6HE3A_G3no
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link
i don't know when this was first out but i got it on the mixtape that came in the box with his reeboks, this fucking beat is delirious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TcD_IeMdG4
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link
That has one of my favorite one liners: "I'm gonna raise hell til it's heaven"
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link
That Big L/Jay freestyle is so good.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 01:53 (two years ago) link
agreed, love that freestyle.
so i did some looking around and it seems the remix i was talking about is not currently available in the usa. set the vpn to uk and here it is.
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link
nice
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link
that also reminds me that jay featured on big l's first album:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLfrU4oN79w
"da graveyard" (1995)
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 19:40 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFE5ucG9Yn4
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link
dissing joe budden = evergreen
― sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link
that reebok mixtape is one of his best projects, so much fun
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:48 (one year ago) link
wow, in peak form!
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 3 February 2023 08:34 (one year ago) link
Listening to In My Lifetime Vol. 1 goddamn he was the best
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 18:26 (four months ago) link
Is he called Jay-Zed in the UK?
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 18:41 (four months ago) link
yeah he's on fire on that album. other than the shitty 'pop' tracks like "I Know What Boys Like", it still stands up really well, and those are easily skippable.
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 18:44 (four months ago) link
Listening to In My Lifetime Vol. 1 through 2001 goddamn he was the best
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 18:48 (four months ago) link
lil kim's verse on "i know what boys like" is pretty good
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 19:39 (four months ago) link
I remember bringing Vol 1 on a cruise ship once, for a 3 day cruise, my friend and I had it on while we were drinking rum in our rooms and having a lil mini-cabin dance party.
think I had that one and Reasonable Doubt w/ me
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 19:41 (four months ago) link
def one of the worst beats jay ever put on his albums, tho, sure.
xp
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 19:41 (four months ago) link