90s Eurodance? I mean, with the EDM thing going on which is basically Eurodance 2.0
I guess neither is exactly critics darling music though.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link
https://gawker.com/180780/the-new-spin-dont-you-know-things-can-change-things-can-go-your-way-or-not
― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link
Wanted to say EDM as there have been a load of great records, but have seen zero critical appreciation of them, and now the genre is basically done. But guess there may be a revive and some critical appreciation sometime around 2030.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link
Also up: Fiona Apple (massively), Alanis Morrisette (controversially), KD Lang, Belly, Buffalo Tom, Slowdive
Down: Lil Wayne (from a fairly high base)
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link
Also EDM as in "country/pop singer dropping inspirational lyrics over a huge anthemic build/drop" EDM is very far from fast bouncy 90s Eurodance?
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
The Pixies will rebound but they've definitely reunioned themselves down a few levels. Ditto Smashing Pumpkins who are a weird one anyway.
EDM producers are probably taken a tiny bit more seriously within dance music than they once were but it's not exactly credible or fashionable come on. D&B is probably on the up again though.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link
People have been claiming that a drum & bass revival is around the corner for fifteen years now, can't see it happening.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
Up: Grime has been on a big upswing after the initial early '00s hype and subsequent decline
Down: The L.A. beat scene got subsumed by Soulection and 'chill beats to study to', Low End Theory ended, the style feels codified and a little quaint, FlyLo lost some mystique (via douchey tweets), etc
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
Hardstyle
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link
If i was in my 20s and bored I would totally do a tracking index of musicians' cultural/artistic share price.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link
Upwards: Nardwuar
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link
bring back popex
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
Wasn't there something like this on the BBC website circa 2003? I think I remember shorting Fatboy Slim.
Oh, some googling says it was just relaunched
http://landing.celebdaq.co.uk/
― bendy, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
I'd nominate Suede as a case of an artist's legacy improving. After the disaster of the New Morning era and the collective shrug that greeted their 2003 Greatest Hits their reputation wasn't exactly great. I saw them at Glastonbury that year and it was actually quite depressing seeing how little everyone cared (the band and the audience). Then throw in Brett's underwhelming solo career towards the end of the 2000s as well.
The turnaround began with the well received reunion shows and has continued with three albums that have sold well and been decent critics successes. They've had to work hard to get their reputation back on track and surprisingly seemed to have kept the momentum going. Where they are now is so much better than 10 years ago.
― kitchen person, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link
Suede definitely up, Manic Street Preachers unbelievably somehow down on even 10 years ago.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link
Gaz Coombes, up obviously.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link
Hitler, up obviously.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
I would now say I much prefer Suede to Blur, which would have been completely unthinkable ten years ago
― imago, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
Also surprisingly up, Craig David (not to mention UK garage in general).
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link
some bobos can't be unhonked
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, July 9, 2019 2:12 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
lmao
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
oh I guess Green Day's rep has taken a bit of a tumble, I remember the mid-00's where they were spoken of like they were the next Kinks, or the one California punk band that actually ascended into something else and potentially saved rock n' roll, blah blah blah.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link
Cool thread. Up: Queen (biggest rise,classic rock edition) Electric Light Orchestra, J Giles BandDown: U2, Parliament-Funkadelic (inexplicable yet true) Eric ClaptonBiggest down: electric guitar
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link
down: the blues, though i guess that's been happening for a while
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link
Uh, J. Geils Band?
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link
Unless Johnny Giles has been moonlighting as a blues singer.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link
ELO is a good one. They're averaging about 10 million Spotify listeners a month, way more than a lot of their contemporaries.
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
Kanye West and Radiohead stock is a bit like investing on Apple. No matter what controversies or new trends happen, they haven’t lost value in public perception as “groundbreaking” and/or “cool”.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link
Down: Crescendo Based Post-Rock
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link
Up: Nile Rodgers
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:12 (four years ago) link
Queen, definitely. You can't underestimate the popularity of that movie (which I still haven't watched). My 11 year old niece told me that she's learning to play Queen songs on the piano a few days ago.
― . (Michael B), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link
Queen are like some weird keystone in British culture now, but they (and their manager) have pursued that line pretty much since not long after Freddie died.
In terms of keeping the band's name alive in every media that was viable, they've managed to basically shill for themselves in every potential direction and, very astutely, at the generations following the people that were into Queen the first time around.
I did go and see them once with Paul Rodgers singing (it was a freebie) and I blubbed like a big fucking girl when Brian May came out and sung Love Of My Life on an acoustic guitar.
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link
Grammy award winning artist, shirtless wonder Matt Pike of High on Fire and Sleep.
Yeah it happened...Pike's kinda picked up the torch now from Lemmy in a stylistic way.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 23:51 (four years ago) link
somebody said it up thread but I feel like Tom Waits I see people busting on a lot now and he was such a darling for decades
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link
i blame tom scharpling for that tbh
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 00:28 (four years ago) link
stock down: turn of the decade indie, freak-folk, arcade fire, college rock
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili)
big blood will always have a special place in my heart
― Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 00:30 (four years ago) link
up: tori amos, but not as much as she deserves
― ufo, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link
↓ canadian indie rockers↑ canadian pop stars
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 00:42 (four years ago) link
Ha! He is very vivid in his hatred.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link
Regarding the electric guitar, I guess the stock of the overdrive guitar has fallen (even though the likes of Ghost and Avenged Sevenfold have managed to revive the hair metal genre somewhat). However, the chorus guitar is at its coolest since the 80s. (Agsin: Mac DeMarco)
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 09:42 (four years ago) link
down: songs about mollyup: songs about xannies
― Vape Store (crüt), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link
yeah Queen, which I have never liked at all, seems so big now.Also Elton John : a friend told me he's his 7yo kid's favourite singer(and I suppose at this age, they are influenced by other kids at school etc). Not surprisingly, his kid also likes Queen...I blame THESE movies !
That said I guess E. John wasn't particularly down in the 00s.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link
Billy Ray Cyrus?
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link
The problem with this thread is that pop culture moves so much slower than it used to and ten years is just not a very long time music-wise anymore.
yeah, I've often thought about that and I suppose it's been discussed at length somewhere on ILX but it's one thing I can't really explain.Like I remember when Suede's first album reached its 20y anniversary release and thinking it had been as long as say when Sgt Pepper got its CD 20y anniversary in the 80s.Yet it didn't feel that long ago to me regarding Suede whereas between 67 and 87 it seemed like totally different eras.It might be totally subjective, though and the musical landscape IS totally different now so I don't know...
Also pop/rnb hits now don't seem vastly different from 10 or even 20y ago whereas pop hits in like the 90s had nothing to do with those in the 70s, for instance.
While it would seem more likely that pop culture now would move FASTER than previously with all the media, IT, trends, etc.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link
00s music is in the uncanny valley of pre-revival but no longer current so will fall by default
there is something heartening about the enduring rep of the wu tang clan
― ogmor, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:25 (four years ago) link
Indeed!
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link
Then there's the whole scene of vaporwave spinoffs who are all more or less indebted to Japanese electronica.
the first time I heard Ongaku Zukan my thought was "it's like Weather Channel music, but I really like it", which is pretty much vaporwave in a nutshell. I'm surprised that album hasn't retroactively blown up.
― frogbs, Tuesday, July 9, 2019 8:27 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Yes! Same with Casiopea's 'Mint Jams', which sounds like it was recorded tomorrow (but in fact is from '82 o_O). You could fool anyone passing it off as a smooth jazz/vaporwave milestone.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link
Elton John is a good one, there was a Twitter post not long after 'Rocketman' came out saying, can you imagine back in the 80s hating Morrissey for being a bigot and Elton John being the cool one.
I get the feeling Billy Joel is more respected now than he was back in the 90s/00s. Conversely despite going down the Rick Rubin stripped back route, Neil Diamond seems more of a footnote as a performer, with only his 60s singles being remembered.
― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:35 (four years ago) link
turns out wu tang really was for the children.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 11:02 (four years ago) link
Down: Most 60s music - the Beatles, even the Beach Boys.. No one talks about them any more.
It's been ages since I heard anyone talk about Troutmaskreplica in any significant way
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link
Does anyone still talk about Love?
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 12:32 (four years ago) link