The Legion Of Super Heroes: Classic Or Dud?

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Plus other characters have, like, purple skin and stuff (here’s the cover of 2nd ish):

stan by me (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:59 (seven months ago) link

the legion doesn't care if you're black, white, purple

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:00 (seven months ago) link

White, black, Winathian
Everybody just a-freakin’

stan by me (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:03 (seven months ago) link

I know this reboot isn't for me, and yet ... I kinda wanna flip through ish #1 anyway

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:04 (seven months ago) link

I can’t think of anyone whose take on the LSH I’d be less interested in than Bendis’, but I also don’t know the names of anyone else who’s prepared to write for DC these days.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:12 (seven months ago) link

I will for sure be checking it out, for better or worse.

stan by me (morrisp), Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:25 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

Bendis interview.

What we’re getting to do, with all these seeds, it’s similar to what I did on Ultimate Spider-Man, which is cherry pick the best things about the characters and the world and put them in this beautiful stew of everything that’s great about the Legion and put it out in a modern story. That’s what my job on Ultimate Spider-Man was, and I realized, “Oh my God, the Legion doesn’t exist here; we can create the Ultimate Legion,” for lack of a better word. This is literally like every era of Legion, all the best parts put into ours.

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Sunday, 18 August 2019 03:26 (six months ago) link


Οὖτις, Sunday, 18 August 2019 15:12 (six months ago) link

I guess I should be glad its not being touted as grim n gritty

Οὖτις, Sunday, 18 August 2019 15:16 (six months ago) link

Like all Bendis stuff, it’ll probably be good without ever being great, but probably a bunch better than whatever usual C-lister would do (i.e. a Tony Bedard type)

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:07 (six months ago) link

(I am not at all sentimentally attached to LOSH which prob helps)

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 18 August 2019 17:08 (six months ago) link

It probably goes without saying, but the other two major LSH reboots were also set in a universe where the Legion didn’t already exist; and their creators also put a “modern” spin on aspects of the previous Legion teams. I‘m sure Bendis has some tricks up his sleeve... but it feels like that cliché of doing the same thing over & over again, and expecting different results.

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Monday, 19 August 2019 05:30 (six months ago) link

But this time they're going to eat pizza!

Frederik B, Monday, 19 August 2019 07:54 (six months ago) link

You forgot the apostrophe in p'izza.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 August 2019 11:40 (six months ago) link

Kieron Gillen and Jamie McKelvie would probably do something interesting with the Legion but...

Kieron Gillen @ Worldcon
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(Don't say Legion of Superheroes. Any LoS fan would hate what I would do with LoS.)
10:44 AM - 24 Jul 2019

earlnash, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 01:40 (six months ago) link

they would hate him calling it LoS

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 02:11 (six months ago) link

I was gonna say...

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 02:52 (six months ago) link

Would read Legion of Soup

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 03:10 (six months ago) link

irl tee hee

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 04:25 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

They must have heard us talkin’; because sometime after the above images were released, Lightning Lad was changed from asshole-hairdo white guy to black guy:

Compare also this artwork to the cover art I posted above (Garth’s head is at the 2 o’clock position within the ring, in both images).

#YABASIC (morrisp), Monday, 9 September 2019 03:29 (five months ago) link

Looks like the guy two heads over to Jon’s left (is it Bouncing Boy?) may have also changed from black to white(?) Or they swapped in a diff. character altogether

#YABASIC (morrisp), Monday, 9 September 2019 03:32 (five months ago) link

(is it Bouncing Boy?)

Fat Tyroc or gtfo

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 9 September 2019 04:20 (five months ago) link

Garth’s costume also looks a lot like the one worn by the current incarnation of Black Lightning — especially the TV version of the character. Wonder if some link will be drawn there, or if it’s just, uh, a coincidence?

#YABASIC (morrisp), Monday, 9 September 2019 04:24 (five months ago) link

Cosmic Boy's not japanese anymore, right?

I suppose Garth's suit has always been very similar to Black Lightning's. Heavy on blue, white and lightninigs.

Best case scenario here is it turns out as good as his X-Men, which were...enjoyable, I guess.

cpl593H, Friday, 20 September 2019 11:35 (five months ago) link

Cosmic Boy's not japanese anymore, right?

asian, sorry...

cpl593H, Friday, 20 September 2019 11:38 (five months ago) link

I read a review of the team’s first few teaser appearances, which commented that the degree of CB’s apparent Asian-ness varied depending on the artist.

#YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 20 September 2019 15:04 (five months ago) link

Has there ever been any LOSH incarnation that was totally worthless, abject, boring, etc?

I can't remember anything similar to a "Chuck Austen" era for the Legion.

cpl593H, Friday, 20 September 2019 16:42 (five months ago) link

The New 52–era "Legion Lost" run was awful

#YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 20 September 2019 19:35 (five months ago) link

you can tell the Adventure run is desperately spotty stuff by random writers who Weisinger hadn't terrorised away, when you compare to how consistent & psychologically curious the Siegel stories are

the Action run is v nothingy, and tbh most of the 70s apart from Levitz' shaky first sesh is hackwork. even Shooter's return was unnecessary, having lost what naive spark made the teenage Jim useful at writing teenage power fantasies.

Tom McCraw run worthless for sure.

Haven't read since then apart from the occasional Levitz/Giffen reunion and skimming early Waid issues in the shop.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 20 September 2019 19:39 (five months ago) link

Mmm the McCraw run wasn't mindblowing stuff, for sure, but I do remember it fondly. It was the first Legion reeboot, so watching the new continuity unfold and just seeing how they had tinkered with the past (Invisible Kid is alive again! Projectra is a giant snake! The Ferro Lad death is now a big crossover!) was intriguing and fun.

Shooter Mark 2 was unnecessary indeed, but I do have a soft spot for his "not that weird but not quite straight forward either" style of writing, and the art of Manapul made it passable.

I had totally forgotten about that new-52 series, though. Seeing Fabian Nicieza in his wikipedia entry waving that issue really sends shiver down my spine.

cpl593H, Friday, 20 September 2019 20:36 (five months ago) link

Shooter mk 1 was 60s, mk 2 was 70s, 21st century was mk 3

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 20 September 2019 21:12 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

Picked up issue #1 of this. Tons of fragmentary, jokey Bendis dialogue; a storyline that hinges on an artifact from the present-day DCU; and a major plot twist that, surprisingly, hearkens back to the “5YL” era (I won’t spoil it). Guess the issue was fine as an introduction; hard to really evaluate it beyond those bullet-points.

quinn morgendorffer stan account (morrisp), Saturday, 9 November 2019 23:50 (three months ago) link

Well, these guys found a lot more to say about the issue than I did... Really good write-up (full of spoilers, fyi).

quinn morgendorffer stan account (morrisp), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 04:17 (three months ago) link

One other thing I’ll mention is that I feel like the artwork in the first few pages may be an homage to Stuart Immonen’s Legion work (especially since the style sort of changes later); but I’m not versed enough to say that for sure.

quinn morgendorffer stan account (morrisp), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 05:09 (three months ago) link

I'll take this opportunity to go on record to say that I am NOT a fan of several of the Legionnaire designs. Karate Kid in particular, as he is clearly wearing a (stereo)typical Chinese queue hair style. Please someone tell DC that "karate" is Japanese, not Chinese. If Val is now Chinese, shouldn't he be called Kung Fu Kid?

have we learned nothing from the jackie chan karate kid ffs

Titanic was cliched Marxist crap. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 09:53 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

Pretty brutal takedown of issue #3 on that blog:

stop creeping my instagram storiez (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 04:21 (one month ago) link

tldr; art looked nice though

Nhex, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:59 (one month ago) link

I've basically come around to the opinion that, aside from his anomalous Avengers work, BMB should basically only write solo books. He is generally good-to-very good when he does that, and he is generally mediocre-to-awful when he writes teams of characters. BMB on LOSH seems...I don't want to say 'nightmarish' but somewhere in that ballpark.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 15:04 (one month ago) link

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