Posted elsewhere, here's director Todd Phillips discussing his approach to this popular character with almost eighty years of history from which to draw:
We didn’t follow anything from the comic books, which people are gonna be mad about. We just wrote our own version of where a guy like Joker might come from. That’s what was interesting to me. We’re not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker. It’s about this man.
― I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link
it's about, like... this man
― coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link
Outrageous to just ignore the history of the jokester
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link
What if you adapted The Wonderful Wizard of Oz into a film and just made it a movie about one of the Washington Wizards learning to play basketball in Australia, people would like that, right?
― I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link
okay let's map out the process here:
1) take one of the most recognisable characters in pop culture, who has had numerous widely-acclaimed screen translations already2) prevent yourself from telling any stories about him doing any of the supervillainous stuff he's known for3) don't include any of his supporting cast or anyone else from the wider creative universe he functions in4) write a story about his origins which is entirely separate from any of the multiple origins he's been given so far5) ???6) profit
― coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link
I'm down with this approach, although I have little interest in DC cannon
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
that dc cannon in full
https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fe%2Fe0%2FLoosecannondcu0.jpg&f=1
― coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link
xpost And, well, that's kinda the rub. The question then becomes: who the fuck is this for?
― I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link
Anyone who might theoretically be interested in some wild take on a DC character with no reverence to the subject matter probably wouldn't be interested in reality because it's still a DC movie.
― I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
it doesn't even look wild, though! it's just reheated taxi driver!
― coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link
Also worth noting that...they just did this a few years ago ('this' being a cinematic presentation of the Joker which didn't resemble the character in any meaningful way) and the reaction was a resounding 'nope'.
― I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link
So it's more of a story about the man behind the grease paint.
― pplains, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link
It's rare that you get enough heads up on a car crash that you're actually able to set up some lawnchairs on the sidewalk, maybe get some corn poppin'. It's a nice change of pace.
― I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link
'this' being a cinematic presentation of the Joker which didn't resemble the character in any meaningful way
tbf there's not really anything in the trailer which suggests this won't meaningfully resemble a plausible origin story for a character who's had numerous origin stories, it's just... who gives a shit? his origins are the least interesting thing about him ffs
― coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
What I want to see is the Joker's infancy. When did he learn to crawl? What was his favorite flavor of baby food? Did he wear disposable or cloth diapers?
― I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link
one things for sure
those nappies were twisted
― coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link
He was born 35 years old
― Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link
they just did this a few years agoI mean,,,,,,, yeah
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link
Someday we’re gonna get the Joker/John Wayne Gacy blend we deserve.
― omar little, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link
I’m perversely interested in this, as a fan of movies about Joaquin Phoenix’s gorgeous catastrophe of a face
― moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:30 AM (three months ago) bookmarkflaglink
This remains the case. The definitive version of the Joker is from B:TAS anyway, I don't care if this movie doesn't really have anything to do with the famous clown we all love. Pure cinema.
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link
Phoenix would be the reason to see this yeah. I didn’t clock that Philips was the director, I don’t like his work at all iirc
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link
TBF my dour preconceptions of this film wrt Phillips at the helm have been based upon the bulk of his career but there's always a slim chance that we'll be gifted with something that hearkens back to his Hated roots.
― I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link
Looking at his filmography I don’t mind some of his earlier comedies, i was thinking particularly of war dogs which I absolutely hated
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
Joker vs. Gacy
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
i'd forgotten phillips made hated, this can all be redeemed if phoenix shits on the stage of a comedy club while in full joker makeup
― coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
We’re gonna see the Joker’s dick— pixelatedboat aka “mr tweets” (@pixelatedboat) July 11, 2018
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 23 August 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
joker’s poker
― lowkey goatsed on the styx (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 August 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link
lmbo
― Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Saturday, 24 August 2019 02:16 (four years ago) link
just groaned aloud at the discovery that the Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie did not come and go like 2 years ago and in fact hasn't even been released yet— Albert Burneko (@AlbertBurneko) August 23, 2019
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Saturday, 24 August 2019 02:22 (four years ago) link
If the spoilers that appear downthread here are accurate (and tbh they *seem* right) I can absolutely guarantee this movie will be cited in mass shooter manifestos over the next few years.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/bwh1gu/joker_spoilers/
― Simon H., Saturday, 24 August 2019 05:18 (four years ago) link
It all connects. Joaquin. Wakeen. Walking. We do that with legs.
Legs. We know how to use them. ZZ Top. Beards.
Beards signify wisdom. Wise. Why's?
Why....is?
― FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 August 2019 06:03 (four years ago) link
What spoilers could possibly exist?
"The Joker kills people, eventually"?
― FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 August 2019 06:05 (four years ago) link
The specific formulation described would flatter the sensibilities of the kind of incel chuds who feel that the weight of the world compels them to shoot up movie theaters and schools.
― Simon H., Saturday, 24 August 2019 06:19 (four years ago) link
the honkler meme has been going for a while now so i’m kinda amazed we’re not already inundated with joaquin-faced honklers
― lowkey goatsed on the styx (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 24 August 2019 09:19 (four years ago) link
jokestrap
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 August 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link
Très Pupkin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=144&v=zAGVQLHvwOY
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link
Whoops - here's the right link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAGVQLHvwOY
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link
just... why― a photographer, satanist and ukip voter (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 13:30 (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lowkey goatsed on the styx (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link
I've had a sudden brilliant brainstorm: thinking of existing movies that, with no alterations except the digital superimposition of Joker makeup onto the face of a/the main character, would make for Joker movies I'd rather see.
First candidate: Heidecker in The Comedy
― McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
a serious man
― devvvine, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
Yeah I'm in the tank for this dumbass piece of shit
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
- Peter Travers
― McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
Yeah this still looks to be handsomely shot reactionary garbage
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link
ZoolanderMandyGran TorinoThe HitcherLethal Weapon...
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
Kids
― ☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
this looks quite a bit better than I was expecting.
― akm, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
enchanted
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
^ while I’d watch a version with Sevigny in the makeup, it would 100% work with Casper being Jokerised
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
xposts
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link
no, xpost denied, you said it its done
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link