Transport in London is shit

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imago, Monday, 8 July 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link

i have also been actually literally knocked down by a child on a bike (for the crime of not having 360° vision while standing at a bus stop) (= on the pavement bcz that's where many bus stops are)

when i suggested (perhaps a little urgently) that she be more careful in future, i was denounced as a paedo, so everyone's a winner

mark s, Monday, 8 July 2019 12:17 (four years ago) link

jeez, i thought i had it bad getting ironically denounced as a "gangster" on the other side of the scooter/pedestrian divide!

calzino, Monday, 8 July 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

Trying to walk a very wobbly Kenny one day in N16, I got belled by some tween Jolyon riding on the pavement and almost did a child abuse.

suzy, Monday, 8 July 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link

there's definitely an age-related curve to my appreciation of adult foot-scooter-users

18-20: earnest young hipsters, annoying if they are too oblivious (and they often are quite oblivious) but they add a little colour and optimism to the place

the 30-something electric scooter rider in a suit who's come rather close a few times to mowing me down on my walk to work: dud, should be old enough to know better!*

the 70+ scooterer who looks rather like Doc from BTTF and pelts down the main road into town: classic, hurrah for the eccentrics, etc

* admittedly this opinion may be based as much on the suit as the wearer's age

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 8 July 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link

they add a little colour and optimism to the place when they get too close to my house and trigger the landmines.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 July 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

the pro-pedestrian landmines he hurriedly added

mark s, Monday, 8 July 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

But if they offer an innovative and eco-friendly transport solution, you may want to change the legislative/regulatory framework to accommodate or even encourage them.

How is one person delaying a hybrid bus of 100+ people something to be encouraged here?

gyac, Monday, 8 July 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link

The precise details are left as an exercise for the reader!

https://www2.deloitte.com/insights/us/en/focus/future-of-mobility/micro-mobility-is-the-future-of-urban-transportation.html

Luna Schlosser, Monday, 8 July 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/13/tv-presenter-emily-hartridge-dies-in-scooter-crash

"Tributes have poured in for a TV presenter and YouTube star after she died in an electric scooter crash – the first fatal collision involving an e-scooter in Britain."

koogs, Monday, 15 July 2019 11:31 (four years ago) link

Yes, I noticed that news at the weekend. Grim stuff.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Monday, 15 July 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link

That sounds like a “lorry crash” not an “electric scooter crash”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 15 July 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link

quite.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

That's bad but not as bad as the url led me to expect, at least

kinder, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link

yeah seriously, thank god it's *only* institutional racism :(

imago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link

Public transport in London is the most expensive in the world. @StatistaCharts via @SoberLook pic.twitter.com/yyvcokrQ6d

— Adam Tooze (@adam_tooze) October 31, 2019

calzino, Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:02 (four years ago) link

Nonetheless I'm guessing it's still cheaper than other cities in the UK.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link

lol, yes. £1.50 to go from one side of London to the other is cheaper than my five minute journey back from the shops.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:40 (four years ago) link

I'm a scum-sucking parasite who can travel for free on the buses if I'm with my kid on his disabled +c pass and reduced prices on the trains, so when ppl moan about the prices I uncomfortably nod my head in fake solidarity!

calzino, Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:47 (four years ago) link

comprehensive review of how london’s ultra low emission zone (ULEZ) has performed.

Better than expected is the short answer. And apparently causing a small reverse of the trend of falling passenger numbers (but to put it in context the increase here is estimated at £7 million net and the shortfall projected in 2018 was £240 million. < this article mentions “flexible working practises being part of the problem and maybe that’s true but afaict people don’t really know why numbers are falling - other possible factors are uber, changing demographics and population of london itself)

Instead of the originally forecast £77m of revenue from ULEZ, TfL’s budget for the 2019/20 financial year is now expecting to take in only £55m. This is largely the direct result of a third fewer non-compliant vehicles entering London’s ULEZ. By comparison, net income from London’s congestion charge was £147m in the 2018/19 financial – £230m income minus £83m in tolling, enforcement and administrative costs.

Passenger income is up, however, particularly on the London Underground and on London’s busses. Transport for London has revised its passenger income budget up £29m for 2019/20. This more than makes up for the £22m of lost revenue on ULEZ. Higher ticket sales alongside ULEZ successfully deterring driving into central London suggests that ULEZ might be encouraging Londoners and visitors to opt for public transport over their car.

Fizzles, Friday, 1 November 2019 09:02 (four years ago) link

City worker 'flew into rage' at commuter over boiled eggs breakfast https://t.co/ivqZ3UfCaP

— Evening Standard (@standardnews) November 12, 2019

Ms Stoter told a jury at Blackfriars crown court that Mead became agitated and put on a “bad face” when she started eating the eggs, which she admitted gave off a strong smell.

The victim told the court she felt “intimidated and vulnerable” during the incident, which took place shortly after the train stopped at Stratford on September 6, 2018. She told the jury Mead gave her “bad” looks when she started eating the eggs and moved towards the door, apparently to escape the smell. Ms Stoter said she gestured with a shrug of her shoulders to Mead that she was sorry, but the defendant “quickly and aggressively” moved towards her and leaned into her face.

gyac, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

not defending the defendant but i literally can't think of a smell more boaksome to me than boiled eggs

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link

that account is extremely Real England

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

Yeah I was torn which thread to put it in but City commuter rage is real

gyac, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link

i am always very furtive when eating disgusting foods (usually seafood sticks or a whole salami where i have to peel the casing by hand) on public transport

imago, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link

Eating anything on public transport is disgusting savagery.

'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link

I... don't even know how the smell of boiled eggs can be disgusting, let alone be present to someone sitting three feet away?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link

Amazing synergy between this thread and the ongoing US police brutality and corruption thread rn

That said I’m with Tom on this one

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link

Eating hard boiled eggs in an enclosed area is really inconsiderate of those around you but I wouldn’t let it ruin my week, I prefer to stand in quiet judgement

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

I... don't even know how the smell of boiled eggs can be disgusting, let alone be present to someone sitting three feet away?

Disagree wholly with threatening anyone but absolutely hate the smell of eggs in enclosed spaces & would have got up and moved tbh

Eating anything on public transport is disgusting savagery.


Most otm post ever

gyac, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

Amazing synergy between this thread and the ongoing US police brutality and corruption thread rn

Throw the Don Cherry thread (about poppies) into the mix, along with my small recount on the snooker thread, and the whole universe is Real England basically.

I don't really mind people eating stuff on public transport, as long as it's food tbf.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link


Disagree wholly with threatening anyone but absolutely hate the smell of eggs in enclosed spaces & would have got up and moved tbh

I've developed a terrific sense of smell if I may say so myself, but never got a bad scents of boiled eggs. And I do eat them frequently! (not on the tube) I realize this must be a flaw on my behalf.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link

wasp bodies in a fig good, hard boiled wasp eggs on a caterpillar bad

mark s, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link

otm

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link

Amazing synergy between this thread and the ongoing US police brutality and corruption thread rn

Throw the Don Cherry thread (about poppies) into the mix, along with my small recount on the snooker thread, and the whole universe is Real England basically.

Very much this.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

I'm assuming the eggs were hard-boiled because of the smell but I strongly feel the Standard should specify that because to me "boiled eggs" means soft-boiled.

Alba, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link

sliced or cut open boiled eggs can smell bad if not eaten straight away or immediately incorporated with another acidic condiment such as mayonnaise.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link

don’t eat on public transport.

Fizzles, Thursday, 14 November 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

sweets is ok tho

mark s, Thursday, 14 November 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

yes. i think i sent that while sitting on a train and a person with a macdonalds came and sat next to me.

(i don’t mind macdonalds particularly but do on trains)

Fizzles, Friday, 15 November 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

last time i flew back from london this fella humphed onto the plane last, and dropped like a sweaty shit in on top of me carrying a fuckin burger king meal

one of the rare occasions when my ilx lowercaps mean persona exhibited irl, it got handed over for disposal immediately

deems of internment (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 November 2019 01:07 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

i’m using the new Citymapper Pass and I love it. best thing easily is that i don’t have to use touchID at the barriers. just touch my phone to the reader, beep, through. just as fast as a card.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 January 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link

that's now the case with just using contactless Apple Pay, too - and I agree, it's great that it's as fast as a card now.

toby, Monday, 13 January 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link

BAH my great advantage, gazumped!!

Apple Pay is pay-as-you-go only though, right? I can't tell you the number of times I've tried to work out whether paygo or unlimited zones 1-3 works out better for me. With paygo I always have the suspicion I'm somehow being screwed. But I start looking at my the sporadic payments to TFL on my bank statement and just end up dying of ennui.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 January 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link

I think it's still slightly cheaper to get a monthly travelcard if you travel every weekdays, but otherwise it's a wash thanks to the capping

stet, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 08:48 (four years ago) link

I think it's still slightly cheaper to get a monthly travelcard if you travel every weekdays, but otherwise it's a wash thanks to the capping


yeah was going to ask this. since they’ve introduced weekly capping i haven’t bothered worrying about it.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

could be worse

How big is the 90 minute public transit commuter zone for London vs San Francisco? This is my attempt to answer the question. Arrival point is central London or downtown SF. So, light areas = you ought to be able to reach central London/downtown SF within 90 minutes. pic.twitter.com/ZSftRqN1bL

— Alasdair Rae (@undertheraedar) February 6, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Bit quiet out today

stet, Monday, 16 March 2020 10:23 (four years ago) link

Commuters into London, don't forget that you can cancel your annual season ticket if it doesn't look like you're going to be using it for a while.

I guess the same is true of TFL?

ShariVari, Monday, 16 March 2020 10:27 (four years ago) link


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