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Never knew this happened, Reg guesting on Set The Controls with Nick Mason a few months ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW6-s4KIeJw

MaresNest, Saturday, 6 July 2019 17:09 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

This tweet......does not rule

DSOTM is the reward for Pink Floyd fans who suffered through the nonsense before it. https://t.co/nvZt13s6cv

— Adam Howe (@adamhowe76) August 1, 2019

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 August 2019 23:34 (two weeks ago) link

Crazy talk, what came before it is their most interesting period, just finished Bill Kopp's 'Reinventing Pink Floyd' which is about that era and it's ace.

MaresNest, Friday, 2 August 2019 09:07 (two weeks ago) link

Not crazy at all, the run from DSotM through to The Wall easily outstrips anything that came before it.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Friday, 2 August 2019 09:18 (two weeks ago) link

That's not something I would argue with, but 'nonsense' it ain't.

MaresNest, Friday, 2 August 2019 09:21 (two weeks ago) link

Mid > early >>> late.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 August 2019 09:36 (two weeks ago) link

I would argue, but then it's all in the eye or ear of the beholder, innit?

Mark G, Friday, 2 August 2019 09:43 (two weeks ago) link

Early (up to Obscured), plus "animals", that'll do me.

Mark G, Friday, 2 August 2019 09:44 (two weeks ago) link

The span from More OST through to Animals is all I need

doug watson, Friday, 2 August 2019 12:29 (two weeks ago) link

Up to Obscured is fine by me, plus reading about the madness that came afterwards, if not listening to the music

PaulTMA, Friday, 2 August 2019 13:18 (two weeks ago) link

Meddle is their best album imo

Obscured by Clouds the most underrated

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 August 2019 13:38 (two weeks ago) link

obscured by clouds is an interesting one because it was written _after_ "dark side of the moon" but it was thrown together in like a week

definitely noticeable how much they've upped their songwriting game since "more", but not as, uh, labored? as "wish you were here" which was worked out over the course of like a year on the road

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Friday, 2 August 2019 13:41 (two weeks ago) link

somehow found myself listening to division bell outtakes lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbuSEUKGnwY
this kinda rules

tylerw, Friday, 2 August 2019 18:47 (two weeks ago) link

their best period is every other album but only listened to in random order

akm, Friday, 2 August 2019 19:11 (two weeks ago) link

'later years' box set should be announced soon from what I've heard

akm, Friday, 2 August 2019 19:11 (two weeks ago) link

DSOTM rules but Meddle and Animals rule more.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 August 2019 20:15 (two weeks ago) link

yeah meddle is where the strongest organic Floyd magic occurs... i love parts of Dark Side but it does seem like they’re kinda forcing the magic to happen a bit. If I were around at the tine I’d probably have an opinion more grounded in reality.

brimstead, Friday, 2 August 2019 23:34 (two weeks ago) link

Piper is kind of sui generis. Such a huge soft spot for that record but I have a hard time evaluating it within the context of their catalogue; it was a different band.

I haven’t heard AMLOR since it came out, and I’ve never heard the other late-period records. My idiosyncratic ranking of the rest:

Meddle
Dark side
Animals
Saucerful of secrets
Wish you were here
Atom heart mother
More
The wall
Obscured by clouds (I know, I know, I’m a philistine)
Ummagumma
The final cut

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 3 August 2019 23:49 (two weeks ago) link

Also there needs to be a nice concise collection of the early studio recordings that weren’t collected on albums, undiluted by album tracks. Am I missing anything important/pleasurable here? At 51 minutes it’s a little long for an LP — if you drop Beechwoods and Seabirds it’s down to 42 and probably doesn’t suffer too much.

Arnold Layne
Candy and a Currant Bun
See Emily Play
Apple and Oranges
Paintbox
Scream Thy Last Scream
Vegetable Man
In the Beechwoods
Point Me at the Sky
Careful With that Axe, Eugene
It Would Be So Nice
Julia Dream
Seabirds
Embryo

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 4 August 2019 00:14 (two weeks ago) link

No-one's been able to find "Seabirds" yet, so it wouldn't be on any album anyway.

How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 August 2019 00:56 (two weeks ago) link

The 1992 CD The Early Years has ten of those and is supposed to be really good sounding.

timellison, Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:06 (two weeks ago) link

missing "biding my time" from "relics"

and yeah seabirds is gone forever, the tapes were destroyed, all that's there is the diegetic recording in the film

i really wish somebody would record it with the arrangement used in the film (there's one cover but it's a slow ballad arrangement)

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:07 (two weeks ago) link

The “seabirds” on this list is from the Early Years box set (1969) — apparently it’s an alternate version of Quicksilver from More, so I can happily dump it. Thanks for the tip-off about Biding My Time. I’ve plonked it on the end, which seems to fit Floyd’s penchant for slightly sore-thumb album closers.

https://open.spotify.com/user/neutralst8s/playlist/75mN0ynWouHybfNcGRHU8X?si=2F9Adp60TdqwW6uqbX0t0A

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:29 (two weeks ago) link

Piper is kind of sui generis. Such a huge soft spot for that record but I have a hard time evaluating it within the context of their catalogue; it was a different band.

yeah it really has so little to do with what they became, it's probably best compared to like SF Sorrow or Os Mutantes

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:41 (two weeks ago) link

I've got to say disagree with the idea that Piper had little to do with what they became. I think its influence lingered at least up until, but not including, DSOTM.

How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:54 (two weeks ago) link

Part of it? Maybe more "Interstellar Overdrive" than "The Gnome" or "Bike," although I think their pastoralism has roots in Syd too (say, "The Scarecrow").

timellison, Sunday, 4 August 2019 03:13 (two weeks ago) link

The direct influence certainly lingered - they were doing "Interstellar Overdrive" in concert through the end of 1970 and "Set the Controls" (a Syd-era composition) through '73 - but the shadow stuck around for the rest of their career. Which is maybe a lot of the issue a lot of people have with Syd's relationship with the band; he deserves to be known as more than a shadow.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:12 (two weeks ago) link

Wish You Were Here is all about Syd, after all. I never got the sense that Floyd Mk. II wanted him to be forgotten, the blame lies elsewhere.

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:15 (two weeks ago) link

It's not at all about him being forgotten, it's about how he's remembered... which is as a Poor Tragic Loony rather than for his actual songs. As opposed to, say, someone like Brian Wilson, who is certainly well known as a Poor Tragic Loony, but not to the extent that his songs are.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:26 (two weeks ago) link

For the band members themselves, witnessing Syd's progressive loss of self from up close must have been a traumatizing experience so I get why they decided to underscore that facet of the Madcap in their lyrics ('And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes…'). I haven't watched or read any interviews with them wherein they reminisce about Syd, though…

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:33 (two weeks ago) link

And maybe I'm reading too much (and too charitably) into this, but I've always felt like the closing quip 'There is no dark side of the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark' is a potentially sensitive take on the overarching theme of mental illness (lunacy having both a figurative and etymological meaning throughout), i.e. the demarcation between madness and non-madness, Syd-led Floyd and Syd-less Floyd, etc., isn't as watertight as it appears.

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:51 (two weeks ago) link

It's much more than about just playing "Interstellar Overdrive" or even "Astronomy Domine" (the first space rock song!) occasionally. Vocals and harmonies (Barrett/Wright) and Syd's unorthodox chord sequences and guitar playing are very influential on the Syd-less band.

I haven't watched or read any interviews with them wherein they reminisce about Syd, though…

Sometimes it seems like they talk about little else! But that could be just because that's the part of their history I find most interesting so seek out.

How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 August 2019 15:18 (two weeks ago) link

Good to know! I forgot to mention that I haven't looked up any interviews with them, period. A rabbit hole awaits…

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 15:21 (two weeks ago) link

(Btw, I agree with you re: vocals, harmonies, chord sequences, guitar playing, etc.).

pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 15:23 (two weeks ago) link

i mean, it's not the band's fault that their post-syd stuff was so much more famous than syd's actual stuff. well i mean it is the band's "fault" in that they were the ones who went on to make classic and mega-selling records that have had far more impact on the public psyche than syd's stuff has, and i know there are a lot of syd fans who sort of resent them for that, but i think that's a little unfair to the band, who really went out of their way to do right by syd. i also think that sort of fan resentment gives short shrift to how difficult it is to care about a mentally ill person.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 August 2019 16:55 (two weeks ago) link

I've seen Wright looking really quite haunted when recalling Syd in documentaries, esp when re-telling the story where they began just blipping over picking him up to take him to gigs.

MaresNest, Sunday, 4 August 2019 17:16 (two weeks ago) link

Speaking of Wright, a great analysis from Samuel Andreyev!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLEwuo5R-tQ

timellison, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:04 (two weeks ago) link

i think that's a little unfair to the band, who really went out of their way to do right by syd. i also think that sort of fan resentment gives short shrift to how difficult it is to care about a mentally ill person.

― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, August 4, 2019 11:55 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

from whatever i've read it seemed like gilmour in particular seemed to really go out of his way to facilitate syd's solo career as much as anyone could at that point

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:07 (two weeks ago) link

Yes, I think Gilmour really made the effort - the others seem to have been variously freaked out by the whole experience - but then he was playing and singing Syd's songs and (I think) lived across the street from him.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:12 (two weeks ago) link

(many xposts) Missing the 1966 version of “Interstellar Overdrive” and “Nick’s Boogie”

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:23 (two weeks ago) link

I guess each of those could take up a side and be album 1 of a double. I’ve never even heard them! Which does not rule.

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 22:36 (two weeks ago) link

it's nice of andreyev to do, but i don't think i could stand listening to anyone talk about 'see saw' for 45 minutes. i think i'll check out his video on bartok's fourth string quartet instead.

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 23:43 (two weeks ago) link

The best part of it for me is in the middle where he plays through it section by section on piano. Guy rules.

timellison, Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:08 (one week ago) link

i don't think i could stand listening to anyone talk about 'see saw' for 45 minutes

wow, you've sold out

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:10 (one week ago) link

wow, you've sold out

― mookieproof

you knew it would happen one day

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:30 (one week ago) link

you’ve changed, man

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 August 2019 01:10 (one week ago) link


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