At the risk of stating the obvious, the July 2019 US Politics Thread is horse-sh*t

so many pro life anti-abortion billboards by the interstate

ftfy

thanks Aimless

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/06/18/heres-list-organizations-are-mobilizing-help-separated-immigrant-child/

"Driving north on I-75 from Naples to Tampa is a harrowing experience."

I75 aka Pillbilly Highway

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7220335/Britains-man-says-Trump-inept-Cables-ambassador-say-dysfunctional.html

one of Britain's top diplomats, used secret cables and briefing notes to impugn Trump's character, warning London that the White House was 'uniquely dysfunctional' and that the President's career could end in 'disgrace'

As I hear it, the US has a very special, close relationship with Great Britain. And yes, I can see the family resemblance.

Britain's Ambassador to Washington has described Donald Trump as 'inept', 'insecure' and 'incompetent' in a series of explosive memos to Downing Street.

Are there any countries with ambassadors who aren't saying this?

not sure where else to put this

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-of-minors-source

Christine Pelosi made a weird tweet about that

This Epstein case is horrific and the young women deserve justice. It is quite likely that some of our faves are implicated but we must follow the facts and let the chips fall where they may - whether on Republicans or Democrats. #WeSaidEnough #MeToo https://t.co/2mvskwQwW1

— Christine Pelosi (@sfpelosi) July 7, 2019

“some of our faves”

🤔

our increasingly problematic faves

That’s going to need it’s own thread

Too early for next month's thread title?

faves like Bill Clinton and Dersh

Andrew, the sixth-favourite Prince.

Naomi Campbell’s in there too - she seems to have turned over a new leaf in the last five years so...

https://scontent.fewr1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66361511_10220216660429446_6528971393730609152_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQky-zuKWYlktwjWvl1Z2jBIRL5gMuXpIXzfPw1eFhS9AC-o5NiFshdKnTsI6M_v9Mk&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-3.fna&oh=3ad331024b5a2cc402f54ae24089f8db&oe=5DBF573D

In a new book, Trump claims that he foresaw AOC's political rise. Of course it's bullshit from beginning to end. The only interesting things about this story are a) Trump's bottomless thirstiness, and b) that the ads for Evita, inescapable on NY local TV in the late 70s and early 80s, are still stuck in Trump's senile brain 40 years later.

have to assume Pelosi is talking about Clinton there. Which isn't surprising but is still disappointing and as happy as I am to see this Epstein stuff coming to a head it's also unsettling that some of this is the root of the child trafficking online conspiracy nonsense that wound up involving that Pizza place.

yeah this is undoubtedly being read as a win by the q folks but I'll be fucked before I go anywhere online to confirm that

Nance says

“All these people have their public whatever and their Twitter world. But they didn’t have any following. They’re four people and that’s how many votes they got. If the left doesn’t think I’m left enough, so be it. As I say to these people, come to my basement. I have these signs about single-payer from 30 years ago. I understand what they’re saying. But we have a responsibility to get something done, which is different from advocacy. We have to have a solution, not just a Twitter fight.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/06/opinion/sunday/nancy-pelosi-pride-parade.html

have to assume [Christine] Pelosi is talking about Clinton there. Which isn't surprising but is still disappointing and as happy as I am to see this Epstein stuff coming to a head it's also unsettling that some of this is the root of the child trafficking online conspiracy nonsense that wound up involving that Pizza place.

― akm, Sunday, July 7, 2019 10:21 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this is undoubtedly being read as a win by the q folks but I'll be fucked before I go anywhere online to confirm that

― gbx, Sunday, July 7, 2019 10:23 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

wait...having not followed pizzagate that much. are you saying that the epstein stuff is connected to whatever the Q people thought about pizzagate? epstein is a billionaire so i assume he knows the clintons well - is that the connection, or is there more to it? completely tuned that stuff out a long time ago so i have no clue

Air Fuck One?

Bill Clinton is known to have flown on Epstein's plane. That's about it, but that's enough to add seasoning to the q-anon stuff.

clinton though hasn't been explicitly named or accused by anyone, the way Prince Andrew and Dershowitz have been.

it's also unsettling that some of this is the root of the child trafficking online conspiracy

so by this you meant it's unsettling that some of this ^will be viewed as^ the root of the child trafficking online conspiracy, ^by the same people who are crazy^

ok, i'm going to completely tune that stuff out again

As I say to these people, come to my basement.

As catchphrases go this needs work.

Really? Clinton has been named in articles about Epstein (Air Fuck One) if Hillary were Prez this would be the top story of the times

It's all speculation but I would also not bet any amount of my own money on Clinton being clean

Hannibal Pelosi xxp

googled "air fuck one" and ended up on this paragraph from a 2008 vanity fair article that has aged rather poorly:

In fairness, it should be said that Clinton’s entourage that weekend also included his daughter, Chelsea, and her boyfriend, Marc Mezvinsky, and no one who was there has adduced the slightest evidence that Clinton’s behavior was anything other than proper. Nor, indeed, is there any proof of post-presidential sexual indiscretions on Clinton’s part, despite a steady stream of tabloid speculation and Internet intimations that the Big Dog might be up to his old tricks. On any given visit to London, for example, Clinton is as apt to dine with Tony Blair or Kevin Spacey as with anyone who might raise an eyebrow.

Clinton has been named in articles about Epstein (Air Fuck One)

from my extensive air fuck one research over the past 10 minutes, i have determined that Ron Burkle is the owner and operator of air fuck one, not epstein

Yam and Bubba could both be implicated

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/george-conway-tweets-links-tying-trump-to-accused-child-trafficker-jeffrey-epstein-after-arrest/

quick reasearch seems to indicate that some think Pizzagate was propelled along by Cernovich in an attempt to discredit anything involving this stuff; Cernovich has some prior entanglements with Dershowtiz, and obv. Trump was explicitly named along with Epstein in 2016 in a suit that simply vanished.

I don’t really follow DSA at all but this came across my Twitter timeline and uh

seeing the national director of DSA unironically share this meme actually answers a lot of questions i had about her inability to support antifascist and antiracist organizing pic.twitter.com/yHBnu8FXnu

— molly 🐶 (@socialistdogmom) July 7, 2019

It would be helpful to know how molly defines the support she thinks is lacking and she desires to see, so I could decide whether it is the job of the DSA to support antifascist and antiracist organizing according to her ideas.

Svart appears to have deleted her account after this.

As well she might.

obviously the billionaire and convincingly fake-billionaire world is tiny but i was still unpleasantly startled by the arrival of ghislaine maxwell in this story

the only other bearer of the name ghislaine i was ever aware of is the huge yacht that failed millionaire robert maxwell threw himself off mid-ocean when all was lost, and of course's he's ghislaine's dad (in fact the yacht was named for her)

he bought it off emad khashoggi (cousin of the journalist, nephew of the arms dealer)

there's actually a passage in "silence of the lambs" (since hannibal has been invoked) where jame gumb talks to himself abt the exclusive yachts where he could parade his suit of stitched-together girlskins to an appreciative audience

I miss those days when disgraced pension fund plunderers would actually top themselves.

xp

That meme sucks but mistakes happen the metro this morning was stuck for a good 4 mins and myself I bought the wrong plant for my sister and I'm sure a plumber somewhere is not doing the perfect job, let's all move on and not draw conclusions about the whole DSA from one meme from one person on one afternoon. I say this as someone who is not really into the DSA per se.

I miss those days when disgraced pension fund plunderers would actually top themselves.

― calzino, Sunday, July 7, 2019

and occasionally bottom

lol!

The House moves fast. It's full of rubes and you never get much done. The Senate moves slowly. It's full of fat rich bores, and you never get much done. https://t.co/XDQL3Vg9j8

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) July 8, 2019

there aren't many fat senators these days

apparently trump is set to deliver a speech on "America's Environmental Leadership" today

That's a good one Karl, tell me another.

I think he means Trump will be giving a speech about how great his hotels are while literally standing on America's Environmental Leadership

He said the forest floor is too dirty and some of the leaves are 20 years old.

Make America Rake Again

You're saying Trump is a rakist?