neon genesis evangelion

anime features were uh featured on the animated features and shorts poll I started and Leee finished for me a few years back; I think it'd be fun to do a sequel for all serialized animation

Animated Creatures: ILX's top 100 animated films (results thread)

really looking back, anime features probably suffered badly from the size of the turnout

a sequel for all serialized animation

Would love this.

ditto

Had no idea Silby, thanks! (got my search keywords wrong)

Think we could do with a sequel tbh

maybe this was discussed upthread but just put end of eva on - they changed that line :|

the last one?! :o

yeah I was not expecting "I feel great!"

lol

lol

meant the one at the start, can't speak to the end

can't bring myself to watch the retranslation of end of eva, the old manga entertainment one was perfect and had a lot of care put into it

also i hate the new series translation. hate it hate it hate it

I have End of Eva on a DVD I bought from a closing blockbuster so I will stick with that version. What could you possibly change that line to?

"Wow, whoopsie daisy!"

"I'm a little stinker!"

"I've made a grave error!"

haha yeah, just checked myself. the other that line, got it.

new one is a literal translation of 「最低だ､俺って」, I guess. so, the whole show is like this now?

last line is slightly different too.

>:(

how gross

how rude

End of Evangelion, 1997
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@silby any movement on the animated serials poll?

thx for reminder, I haven't done anything as regards it. I think it'd be good to wait until clemenza's political films poll hits voting to open a nomination thread. Too many polls rolling at once makes people cranky.

oh wait, it has done so. Maybe I'll start a thread soon then, hmm

Damn it, I'm going to have "Komm, süsser Tod" stuck in my head for days.

my gf is teasing me for "watching hentai" because i like this show 凸(｀△´＋）‎

As a lifelong committed melancholic I’m disappointed I only just watched this for the first time. And yeah “Komm, susser Tod” was great and I’ve cued it up on YouTube a bunch.

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can anyone recommend any particularly good writing/podcasts or anything about this?

christ, i watched the last 4 episodes of the show plus the end of evangelion yesterday afternoon and maybe vaping mids throughout did not help but boy do i not know what to make of that ending

Well, the Chamber of Guf opened, and Adam and Lilith were there, and uh...

the union of the original angels adam and lilith triggers the third impact aka the human instrumentality project. gendo had adam embedded in his hand, and rei was made from lilith's dna; this would've theoretically allowed gendo to control the course of the third impact so he could be reunited with yui. of course, what ends up happening is rei rejects gendo bc he sucks ass and instead unites with shinji and unit 01. the world ends and everyone sees the person they love the most before they turn into goo/lcl and are joined with the universal consciousness in the black moon cradled by rei, who at this point, being gigantic and having a thousand wings, is basically lilith. shinji falls through the dreamscape of his own unconscious, as documented in episodes 25 and 26 and in the second half of end of evangelion, the result of which is that he decides that even though existing as a human being isolated from the universal consciousness is extremely painful and full of misunderstanding and loneliness, he loved everybody so much he wanted to see them again (this decision also likely hinges on the conclusion of episode 26, where shinji realizes he's capable of loving himself)

it all returns to nothing
it all comes tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down

basically

basically the end of evangelion is shinji's mom giving him a big existential hug

the show ends with him being like "i love everyone" and then the end of evangelion ends with him choking asuka on the shore of a hellscape beach of an lcl sea which i found a little jarring

altho thank you for that post with the plot rundown it's very succinct, don't know how i would've gone about trying to summarize that ending

the show ends with him being like "i love everyone" and then the end of evangelion ends with him choking asuka on the shore of a hellscape beach of an lcl sea which i found a little jarring

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pobody's nerfect

actually: i think shinji's separation from the mass of human consciousness was traumatic, all that isolation came rushing back at him, like being born again. that his violence is met with care and concern instead of hostility reduces him to tears. and then asuka's all "kimochi warui" about it. the ending is v ambiguous and hard to read tbh, i don't blame you

gendo had adam embedded in his hand

I had to read up on a lot of the literal plot details afterwards, and had completely missed this. The moment where Rei absorbs Adam is also kind of awkward and obscure. Fortunately, I don't think the precise lore is really essential to see what's happening to Shinji.

man End of Evangelion is a good-ass movie

it's the greatest animated movie ever made

The moment where Rei absorbs Adam is also kind of awkward and obscure

there's a lot of stuff in end of eva that occurs so quickly only a few frames of animation are expended on it. one of these is rei stealing gendo's entire arm. another is: if you watch asuka's "i don't want to die" scene very slowly, you'll see she has a pretty vivid vision of her own eyeless corpse full of maggots

I'm glad someone else asked what was going on, makes me feel less stupid.

But what's with seminal anime and their oblique/opaque storytelling? I read a synopsis on FLCL and it had a surprisingly coherent plot.

i have no idea but i love it. flcl's plot is so straightforward lol

btw i'm glad more people have seen end of evangelion, the movie that confirms that asuka is the best character in the show

my fave character is misato i think

she is also the best character

cough cough pen pen cough cough

rebuild of evangelion any good?

yes! the first movie is almost indistinguishable from the first six episodes of the show but the other two movies get real wild, especially 3.0. however one of the more disappointing aspects of the rebuilds is that the fan service is even more obnoxious and gross than it is in the series, though this problem is also pretty isolated to 2.0

hey I did it

The Saturday Morning Memorial Animated Series Poll: nominations

I looked up a watch order to try to figure out whether I needed to see Evangelion Death (True)2, and a random blog suggested watching the series through ep 24, then End of Evangelion, then returning to the series and watching 25-26. I just finished ep 23, so I could do that--should I?

I'd suggest finishing the series first, then watching EoE. That's the order in which they were originally produced. That blog was probably suggesting doing it the other way around with the idea that it might make more narrative sense, but I think it's more interesting to stick to the actual history.

I haven't watched Death (True)2, but my understanding is that it's entirely redundant once you've seen the series and film.

yeah watch 25-26 first. eoe is way more cathartic after

you do not need to watch death unless you’d like to see a few of the scenes from the series with better animation and the four children performing as a string quartet

death used to have a few scenes that were exclusive to it (gendo and fuyutski’s conversation over the second impact footage) but they were since incorporated into the director’s cuts of episodes 22-24