bands you stopped liking after you saw them live

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The old answer: Boston. I saw them during their first tour in 1976. They came out and played for maybe less then 45 minutes and that was it. Mr. Scholz didn't really seem to be pushing himself or connecting with the audience. Never bought another record of theirs.

The new answer: A few years ago, I went to see Leon Russell in Santa Cruz. I had always loved Leon Russell's music, mostly from listening to my mom's copy of 1970's Leon Russell. At this concert, just like Boston, he made no attempts at all to connect with the audience. He just launched into note perfect renditions of his songs but with no emotion at all. We left after the first set and I felt like my big statue of Leon Russell had just been pulled over in front of me. Very disappointing.
(I still love his and Bonnie Bramlett's Superstar!)

vacasmagras (vacasmagras), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i've seen radiohead twice and like them more on disc.

Ditto.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 08:03 (seventeen years ago) link

word

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Another vote for The Shins. I've seen them several times now at various festivals, and opening for Belle & Sebastian at the Hollywood Bowl, and they are just totally intolerable to me. The keyboardist/multi-instrumentalist/horrible open-mic stand-up comic's between-song banter just murders any emotion or atmosphere the band is able to conjur up.

Seeing them at All Tomorrow's Parties in Long Beach a couple of years ago was particularly heinous. They'd finish a pretty, sad pop song, and then the Marty guy would scream into the mic things like "Yo, Dog, We here in the LBC! Snoop Dizzle and The Shizzins! LBC, Muthafucka!" in an exaggerated accent. The songwriter would stand there awkwardly (though seemingly amused) as the other guy would riff on things like "Funny Hip Hop Voices" and "Lord of the Rings." It totally and completely turned me off of the band.

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link

vacasmagras: I saw Boston a couple of years ago when they released that new album. I got free tickets from work so I went, but they were actually a great band live. They definitely connected with the audience and have a very lively live act. I was enthrolled the entire time, which is actually a little rare for me. I'm still suprised at how much I enjoyed them.

I have to say that Dinosaur Jr. was terrible live. First of all, J Mascis is a total dick with no personality, unless his personality is being a dickhead. Second, it was incredibly loud. I mean dangerously loud. I've never been to a show that loud, and I'm young and I have been to a lot of shows. I saw some college girl actually start crying. It was so loud that you couldn't make out the instruments, and you couldn't even understand which song they were playing. Interestingly enough, one of my friends fell asleep standing up at that show. And he's a huge Dinosaur Jr. fan.

David St. Hubbins (David St. Hubbins), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

It's pretty clear a huge amount of guitar bands don't have one fucking clue how to properly build & keep momentum and interest in a reasonable length set though.
-- ten kebabs maaaaate (...), September 19th, 200

that's probably otm.
Half the bands I see don't seem to know how to put on a good show and that's why I quit going to these newbie indie gigs.

Isis seconded. Boring awful droneage. Though, I can't say I was a big fan in the first place, but now I just won't listen to them.
Bloc Party seconded. They were such a disappointment, I guess because this was before all the hype and the "Helicopter" sampling and I didn't really know much about them except for the fact that their songs were fun and the drumming was pretty good. But their show was so dreadful. For them I always refer back to this review on TMT: "They suck live. And because of that, in my eyes, they basically now suck. Good album be damned, Bloc Party sucks more than anything has ever sucked before."

Architecture in Helsinki. Meh.
And I can't take the Liars at all, now. too much satan for me.

mox twelve (Mox twleve), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and CYHSY. I wasn't huge on them in the first place, kind of neutral towards the praise/hate because I didn't mind their songs, but after their set? It was sheer agony to stand through with the underage enthusiasts I'd brought.
and that unbearable whine.
worst.

mox twelve (Mox twleve), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Thought of another one: The Concretes. Was unfortunate enough to see them during CMJ at the Bowery Ballroom a couple of years back. The singer was trying so hard to project "Scandinavian Cool" that instead she projected utter disdain for the band, and the entire audience. Have they split up now? I hope so.

meritocracy (spencerman), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

the latest incarnation of Black Dice
Gang Gang Dance
Andrew WK (not the Bulb era live shows which were great, but the show in Hollywood about a month before I Get Wet... but I eventually got over it)

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

The Islands, for sure. Their singer is such a pompous, pretentious ass. That show killed any interest I had in them.

Also, Black Heart Procession thirded. I paid 12 bucks to see them with the Castanets. The Castanets never showed, and 2 of the 5 BHP members were missing. All the singer could say was "guess they had somewhere better to be". Thanks for coming to our show tonight, we piss all over your town!

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Palace. Perhaps the most indifferent, lifeless versions of great songs ever.

mike a (mike a), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh and Poortheatre re: Fiery Furnaces, I saw them twice when Blueberry Boat came out. The first time I despised them (because of their disinterest in sticking with any discernable melodies) but the second show, once I was more familiar with their songs, struck me as absolutely brilliant. They cut up all their lyrics and music and put it all in a blender. The resulting 75-minute medley had all the elements of the FF only less predictable. To top it off, Eleanor rapped most of the songs, robbing us (on purpose) of the beauty in her melodies. Then at some key point late in the set, she would actually sing one of her more beautiful songs (Evergreen, Mason City, etc.) and the tension created from all her rapping would give that song an unparallelled release. Their shows were original experiments in dynamics. A bit more standard these days.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

And I can't take the Liars at all, now. too much satan for me.

-- mox twelve

I think I had the opposite reaction. I only really liked their most recent album and even then wasn't particularly blown away by it but after seeing them live I was converted.

struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Sigur Ros. Playing a show with your backs to the audience? Didn't and doesn't work for me.

Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

cosmo, that's OTM about my FF experience. also saw them after Blueberry. I knew all the material and it sounded familiar, but every few seconds, a new change, a new surprise, a new direction. I didn't even miss the regular versions of the songs.

marbles (marbles), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

"The Islands, for sure. Their singer is such a pompous, pretentious ass."

I don't get this sentiment (and others like it on this thread). If you're not going to like a band's music because you find someone to be an ass, you'd be eliminating most, if not all, of the greats. Who gives a fuck if they aren't very nice people? Why does it affect your appreciate of their work? To extend it to other domains, many, if not the majority, of great painters, writers, filmmakers, etc were probably assholes. But, you know, Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole (even if his behavior was as assholish as it can be).

Besides, the dude from Islands doesn't even come off that way. He actually seems to want to perform. What I find intolerable in live acts is when they seem to not want to be there and have disdain for their audience. But that's something else.

Jacobo Rock (jacobo rock), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

deerhoof. never listened to any of their records ever again.

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Serena Maneesh

less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Besides, the dude from Islands doesn't even come off that way. He actually seems to want to perform.

Maybe in your town. Out here he was more interested in talking down to us "kids" than playing. I secretly enjoy that brand of arrogance when the rockstar has the music to back it up...

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Destroyer...what a colossal prick Bejar is!

Iago Galdston (Iago), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

oh come on, he just seems nervous, and not into banter. his performance was very good when I saw him.

Elliot (Elliot), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't really speak to the statement that dan bejar is a colossal prick, but i'll definitely say that his live shows almost never live up to the recordings. that said, i still keep going to see him at every opportunity in the hopes that that will change.

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I have three words for you: Olivia Tremor Control.

But kornrulez got there first.

Run Ruud Run (Ken L), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i went and saw peter frampton after the cajillion selling "comes alive". the little fucker just came onstage and seemed to wait forever to start playing as he just stood there and basked in the applause.pompous ass.

drone/a/sore (drone/a/sore), Thursday, 21 September 2006 04:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Mark Stewart sometime in the late 80s and it was so dull I completely lost interest in anything he did subsequently. Still liked the earlier stuff though (from Pop Group up through Learning to Cope With Cowardice).

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 21 September 2006 05:28 (seventeen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

Meek Mill

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 October 2019 06:11 (four years ago) link

four tet bored ppl itt 13 years ago, and did the same to me the other night. so samey blah

alomar lines, Sunday, 20 October 2019 06:55 (four years ago) link

I don't know if seeing Devo killed my interest in them but it was around the same time. The band was the classic lineup plus the newer drummer but only the drummer had any energy. Mark M especially seemed to be going through the motions

Vinnie, Sunday, 20 October 2019 07:02 (four years ago) link

Broken Social Scene made me loathe them after a hideously overlong self-indulgent gig about 13 years ago. The whole audience seemed to be checking their watches.

lilcraigyboi (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 20 October 2019 07:04 (four years ago) link

another vote for destroyer. one reason might be that the tracks i like from the albums are usually very long and often instrummentals and he doesn't play them live at least not when i saw him. to be honest they are not very concert compatible. most striking example: the laziest river.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 20 October 2019 07:14 (four years ago) link

Swans. I was a big fan up to the 1997 "farewell" tour, wasn't overexcited by the 2010 reunion and what remained of my interest soon evaporated after seeing a couple of shows at which I was increasingly irritated by the overlong, formless "epics" and Gira's increasingly messianic demeanour.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Sunday, 20 October 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link

gah @ increasingly x2

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Sunday, 20 October 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link

Believe it or not The Cure on the "Wild Mood Swings" tour. Longtime fan and had seen them several times over the years prior beginning in '85 but wow...this was awful: an arena in New Jersey, a crowd full of pre-teen Hot Topic goths and their parents, Robert Smith in a NJ Devils jersey (!!) drunk out of his gourd running through a bunch of stuff I had and still have little interest in. It was a birthday gift ticket and I was waiting for * at least* a little pre-"Wish" action but it wasn't happening. I split early and didn't listen to them again until maybe 10 years ago.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 20 October 2019 09:56 (four years ago) link

Mercury Rev. I was going off them anyway but seeing their preening prissy preciousness in the flesh was the last straw.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 October 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link

Was this pre- or post-Deserter's Songs?

pomenitul, Sunday, 20 October 2019 10:34 (four years ago) link

Definitely post!

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 October 2019 10:36 (four years ago) link

Saw a Palace Brothers gig at the Borderline in London in '94, not 100% his fault but he was so purposefully quiet and weedy and the crowd were hugely rude and chatty that the whole thing was completely surreal. Took over a decade to realise I liked his music.

Maresn3st, Sunday, 20 October 2019 11:06 (four years ago) link

I still like Lloyd Cole, but my liking for him took a definite nosedive after I'd seen him live a couple of times, with his arrogant between-song banter and unfunny attempts at humour.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Sunday, 20 October 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link

The other thing about Mercury Rev is they were supported by Flaming Lips - before everybody got bored with their shtick - and I've never seen an act so comprehensively upstaged by their support ever.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 October 2019 11:38 (four years ago) link

Disagree with a bunch of these, who live shows I've really enjoyed (Cake, Olivia Tremor Control, The Fall).

But I definitely have a few bands whose albums I stopped enjoying completely because of the live show:
- Slint - jesus what a slog that show was
- The Go Team - that Thunder Lightning album did not work live at all
- Four Tet - stopped going to laptop shows after this
- That band who sings "on every occasion, i'll be ready for a funeral"

enochroot, Sunday, 20 October 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link

Real Estate and Alvvays are the exceptions to rule here. Both shows were inexcusably dull, but it hasn't stopped me from loving the albums.

enochroot, Sunday, 20 October 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link

Cloudland Canyon. The first time I saw them live the lead guy got pissed off for some unknown reason and they cut their set short after like 3 songs. The second time I saw them one of their synths broke and they again cut the set short because they didn’t know how to get it working again.

blows with the wind donors (crüt), Sunday, 20 October 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

lol @ Broken Social Scene. I caught a "secret" bar show in Toronto not too long after Craig's experience... so we were there for long and indulgent and I enjoyed it... however I'm not sure I've listened to them a single second since. It was just enough of that for my life. Also I think soon after there was that teen romance movie where the plot was based around making it to their show? Could've been partly this too.

Can't really think of a more direct answer on this topic. It's more typical that I'd get into a new band that has great live shows and get turned off by their first album.

From reading thread, got to stick up for Deerhoof - one of the best acts I've ever seen!

maffew12, Sunday, 20 October 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link

Buffalo Tom (especially after support act Bettie Serveert was great)

StanM, Sunday, 20 October 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link

Can't really think of any offhand but can remember being put up in Wolverhampton after a Galaxy 500 gig (I think, could be a different occasion but I think that fits timeline) & the person putting me up's flatmate came back from the Chills show at another venue in town. I think they proceeded to destroy their Chills records but may have stopped just short of.

Stevolende, Sunday, 20 October 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link

After seeing Pink Floyd in 1987 (the first post-Waters tour) I didn't listen to their albums for years.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 20 October 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

I also quite liked Deerhoof live. One of the least showy bands I've seen but captivating in their simplicity, and they played super tight

Vinnie, Sunday, 20 October 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

I've always been too broke to splurge on gigs so I've convinced myself, Glenn Gould-style, that recorded music is generally superior to the live experience anyway. Besides, I tend to dislike communal events (dance, opera and theatre are simply not for me, give or take a few works) and prefer one-on-one interactions with aesthetic objects. Now that those brief caveats are out of the way, I've rarely been disappointed with live performances by musicians who operate in non-song-oriented genres (classical, jazz, 'avant', etc.), perhaps because their art is generally less reliant on recording mediums to begin with. Basically, if my sole reason for going to a gig is to hear the already-familiar alongside a crowd of randos, I'd rather stick to my couch, although classical music is an interesting exception in that the acoustics make enough of a difference to justify the ticket price (I'm also just more of a fan, I guess).

pomenitul, Sunday, 20 October 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

I wasn't a massive fan, but I haven't listened to the Pixies since I saw them less-than-phone-it-in in 1990. From what I've read, this was/is apparently typical of Pixies shows.

In 1994, I couldn't wait to see Evan Parker. Based on the recordings I'd heard, I expected his sound to completely fill the room; it barely made it past the first three rows. (He redeemed himself somewhat two nights later with a brilliant soprano duo with Roscoe Mitchell.)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 20 October 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link

It took me many years to warm up to Pavement again after seeing them on the Crooked Rain tour

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 20 October 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link


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