Brightblack Morning Light ... WTF?

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why do you all drool over this album and i find it boring?

isn't that your issue? why do you think we would know?

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Monday, 24 July 2006 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link

dunno, i like spiritualized, i like druggy, i like rhodes, i like tired. but i dont find this record appealing at all. it's just crazy

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 24 July 2006 10:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i think its definitely an 'if you get it you get it, or you don't' type experience. its qualities, if you dig em (the Rhodes, the slow tempo, the fuggy atmos) are there in abundance - they are what they are, exceedingly so. i can understand people being left cold by it; similarly, i could imagine people who like it *REALLY liking it.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Monday, 24 July 2006 11:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, one comparison that vaguely comes to mind is Spz vs. Acetone, in that the two bands had a mutual appreciation society, Jason wrote/dedicated songs to Mr. Lee after he passed, a range of similar inspirations and approaches -- and yet Acetone in the end never held my attention, nothing really sparked. Sometimes things just *don't* click and there's no requirement that they should despite what everyone else insists. (In my world this is known as the 'But Justin Timberlake is good!' conundrum.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 July 2006 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

oh man i used to love acetone

― Mike Hawk (jaxon), Monday, 24 July 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

silkscreened gatefold lathes in a limited edition of 33 1/3? that would be sicker

um no i meant more live shows. and i'd prefer the rti pressing plant, who does all matador vinyl. best sound ever.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 24 July 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Caring about what musicians care about (i.e., tripping on "authenticity") is the lamest thing ever.

It's either good or not-good. Sonically. Emotionally. Without recourse to extra-contextual analysis. Whether or not BBML are "real hippies" on their own time is completely beside the point.

FWIW, I like it. Sounds like people in a Vietnam movie smoking doobies.

― fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Monday, 24 July 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

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― gear (gear), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

haha..best use of an emoticon ever

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

"But all the root stuff was worked out back in Northern California with Rachel and I; we lived back up in this rural place north of San Francisco. We had been living up there for a few years, really interacting with wilderness a lot, and trying to discover ways to include interacting with wilderness in our daily routine, so it wasn’t just a weekend thing—part of our life. I’m interested in how—what other people are doing that now, what other people have done that in the past, whether it be in the 60s or 70s or whether it be 2,000 years ago—you know, how can we make a routine that includes wilderness… So it’s probably been a lifelong quest, seeing how civilization’s putting malls everywhere, but it definitely motivates us to make music and try to at least call to attention that, “Hey wilderness has a place in our human experiences.” And it has so many different facets and levels—number one, it doesn’t take any money to interact with wilderness, all you need is food, so if we could incorporate, as a society, wilderness as a daily routine, the maybe it would help dissolve classism a little bit, because your pastimes wouldn’t be determined by how much money you have. You know, there’s nothing that freaks me out more than when I meet someone new, and they could be really into a pastime that’s really fun and really good, but it’s something that you gotta have money to do that thing. And neither one of us comes from money at all; we’re both from Alabama, and on the lower-income bracket. So, you know, we don’t want to be ashamed of ourselves, and we also don’t want to be people who—a lot of our friends that we grew up with have turned into people who only think about how to make money, that seems to be a pretty high priority, and we’re questioning that, that motivation. So we didn’t want to be like that, so we’re just trying to find a way to not have motivations rooted in that kind of thing, and trying to look around in our contemporary culture and things that are progressive, and things from the past that were going on too, that were progressive."

― max (maxreax), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

There's nothing more horrifically tempting than something which is well-meaning and serious that still just BEGS to be made fun of.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

dude used the word "wilderness" probably 60 times during the course of the interview.

― max (maxreax), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

where is that quote from? (and how old is that guy?)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, yeah...

Can't open my mouth without getting my lips burned off. Sucks, I guess, to be less-than-cool. Still, I stand by my hamfistedly earnest blather. BBM's "real hippie" status is a non-issue, and a boring one besides.

― fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

they should call their next album "all you need is food"

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

that quote's from when i talked to him a couple weeks ago. i think he's in his mid-to-late 20s. kind of an interesting life story actually--dad was a coke dealer, mom was crazy, moved to humboldt county to work at transworld when he was 18.

― max (maxreax), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

wow, quite a back story. so at least we can't call it a pretentious formula ... pedestrian is as good a word as any, as has been mentioned upthread. Will say: While the Rhodes is just sorta 'eh,' there's some nice steel/slide guitar at work there in spots.

― O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe I'm just really into the wilderness or something but I don't find anything he said to be that crazy or even embarrassing. I find contact with the natural world to be healthy and invigorating. Don't you guys ever go backpacking?

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Jumping to conclusions there, Mark, and I'm kinda annoyed as a result.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

(But yes, I NEVER go out and about in the natural world or anything.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

YOU GUYS SHOULD MUDD WRASSLE

― Mike Hawk (jaxon), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

THERE MIGHT BE SOME MIGHTY HAIR PULLING

― Mike Hawk (jaxon), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

My flowing mane etc.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't want to wrestle Ned! In or out of the mud. He'd murder me.

No, I wasn't even directly addressing that to you, but it seemed like it was posted in a spirt of, "Can you believe what this guy said?" and I see "trying to discover ways to include interacting with wilderness in our daily routine," ande "Hey wilderness has a place in our human experiences" and I'm like, OK.

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I believe we were criticizing *how* it was said -- and while interview transcriptions capture all of us at our worst, I think, that was a bit of a ramble.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 July 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I like this record more every time i hear it - coincidentally or not, I've been higher each time I listen to it than the previous time. Also, pretty much ideal for those long stretches of highway when the gas tank is full, and no one's hungry or talking or has to pee.

It's like if Califone were really really good or if Movietone were into Kissing Spell reissues instead of jazz. Sort of. I dunno. I think it's really good.

― Metal Machine Moustache (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't really have an issue with the sentiment expressed, and I love "the wilderness" and even the specific wilderness he's talking about (ie, Northern California = one of the most beautiful places on earth). That particular passage does strike me as kind of silly and banal though, perhaps because the love of nature is professed in the context of rather stupid material terms (ie, going out into nature doesn't cost money, unlike, say, the pasttime of making records and doing press, which y'know doesn't cost any money at all of course - also neither private or public land is "free", etc.)

That being said I am looking forward to hearing this record based on the comparisons being made (Fender Rhodes + Spiritualized + Dr. John = me like), and I couldn't give less of a fuck about whether or not the lead guy is a dippy hippie or whatever.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

if Movietone were into Kissing Spell reissues instead of jazz.

??? don't hear that at all, good man.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Really? Maybe it's the sleepy way the Rhodes is played, the breathy reverbed vocals, and the slightly loungy interaction between the drums and guitar. Maybe I just really miss Movietone.

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

this is contending with the matmos album for my fave record on matador this year.

― the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

and HEY ROG, i ran into LUA4S a few days ago. we live in adjacent neighorhoods now.

― the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

this is contending with the matmos album for my fave record on matador this year.

faint praise...

Maybe I just really miss Movietone

i hear the movietone, just not the kissing spell.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 00:06 (seventeen years ago) link

posting in this thread ... WTF?

― Lmaoborghini (eman), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 00:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Lmaoborghini OTM

but I guess I"m guilty of it. but who knew there was such interest for such bland band

i guess long hair gets people excited

― kevin barking (arghargh), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

FWIW dude is seriously nice and not like judgemental or particularly spacey, regardless of his nature-love (which i dont really have a problem with either) and willing to talk at length on almost anything you ask about. big minor threat fan, too.

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

and he's touring with d higgs of lungfish, which i think is tres cool

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess long hair gets people excited

I should hope.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

oh ned! i forgot about our past. goodtimes , sigh goodtimes

― kevin barking (arghargh), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

well apparently i'm missing them tonight because the wife takes too long to get ready.

― Mike Hawk (jaxon), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

those wives. bitches aren't they?

― kevin barking (arghargh), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link

yours maybe, mine just takes a long time to get ready

― Mike Hawk (jaxon), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 06:26 (seventeen years ago) link

What's (slightly) off-putting about the quote is this:

"...it doesn’t take any money to interact with wilderness, all you need is food, so if we could incorporate, as a society, wilderness as a daily routine, the maybe it would help dissolve classism a little bit, because your pastimes wouldn’t be determined by how much money you have."

Standard-issue hippie lib-kid entitlement. Blissful lack of awareness of other people's often wildly different circumstances and views. "We could all be happy if we were all (unencumbered, young, white, middle-class, educated) people like me, and we all shared my ideas. We could all be happy if we all had access to the same freedoms I do."

― fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link

put me in the completely clueless column as well, as a shoegaze lover I find this one goes wide left.

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

really enjoying this. and i think enjoy is the right word...

and i'm not a shoegaze/Spiritualized/Dr John fan.

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

This is a nice enough album. I have to agree it doesn't exactly strike me as memorable, but it's all together pleasurable. what's their history, does anyone know?

― boonah (boonah), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought these guys were a bit boring when i saw them with Espers a bit ago, but i bought thier CD and listen to it all the time. I like how warm and relaxing it is.

― peter x (bucksbreeze), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

anybody else see these guys in LA last night? nabob threw a fit and left the stage, and the rest of the band had to finish the last two songs without him. i was still impressed.

― max (maxreax), Saturday, 29 July 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

throwing a fit on stage and leaving your band to finish without you=never cool

― kevin barking (arghargh), Saturday, 29 July 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I hear it is if you're female and/or mentally ill! I don't know about the reliability of my sources though.........

― unnamedroffler (xave), Saturday, 29 July 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

details? yikes.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 31 July 2006 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

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