TS: The Doors vs The Jam

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Maybe some of us should never have gone to Père Lachaise.

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Nah, wouldn't have made a difference.

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i mean MOST rock lyrics are pretty terrible. i always thought his were pretty good psychedelic lyrics.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I can take or leave the Doors on the whole, but that debut album has some classic, classic pop-psych (Break On Through, Crystal Ship, Take It As It Comes). The *sound* is fucking amazing for 1967.

The Jam were utterly great from beginning to end.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

i understand about people not being able to take the deathcult/myth/60'sworship stuff though. i probably hated it too when i was younger. it's annoying. and it's true that annoying people can latch on to the doors. but then i put on one of those records and they sound great to me! very inventive. strange days is such a cool record. i don't really care about all that other stuff anymore. i've gotten old enough that i can ignore it.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't listen to the live doors stuff just cuz i love the production on the studio albums so much (from first to last too. LA Woman is an amazing sounding record), but i do still listen to dig the new breed every once in a while. one of my fave live albums even though it's all chopped up time-wise.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

As an aside, one kind of interesting thing is that the Doors' so-serious-it's-funny overtheatricality is sorta...well, "British," isn't it? As opposed to the Jam, who Union Jack aside did nothing but ape American forms (Mod, after all, being nothing but a British aping of American rock and Motown) for the entirety of their career.

Anyway, the Doors. I don't really love them or listen to them all that often, and both bands had their share of nifty tunes, but for personality, musicality, and their willingness to be completely stupid for the sake of a cool-sounding song, the Doors.

― ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Mod, after all, being nothing but a British aping of American rock and Motown

No it wasn't

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

well, fashion-wise maybe, and they took different drugs. but musically? what else goes into the pot, other than some cool noises?

― ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Music was an afterthought.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Touche. I like some of the Mod covers better'n the Motown originals though - Action's "I'll Keep Holding On" and Small Faces' "Baby Don't You Do It" kinda pwn their respective sources.

― ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I would like to see what our old pal Stewart has to say about this.

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link

'twould be more accurate to say that The Jam were aping British bands aping American music. How many "mod" bands actually were mod bands?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

That's true (and what I was trying to say initially, before I edited my post to reduce clarity), early on at least, before they just started flat-out aping Motown rather than channeling it through an intermediary British source.

― ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

also "aping" is a goofy-looking word when it's used with any frequency.

― ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

*I like some of the Mod covers better'n the Motown originals though - Action's "I'll Keep Holding On" and Small Faces' "Baby Don't You Do It" kinda pwn their respective sources*

OTM ZR

― dr x o'skeleton, Monday, 20 February 2006 10:40 (eighteen years ago) link

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