CLUSTER: I have fallen in love with this band, please help

i have zuckerzeit, but have only played it once

curiosum isn't for everyone, but it's definitely for me. really subminimal.

like I said upthread, the reunion records are very skippable. but I've got a board recording of their KFJC FM 96 set that hand down beats anything off any of the live albums they released.

though if you needledrop yourself straight into the middle of the rhythmic bit on side 2, you'll be likeably confused for a few minutes

http://mitglied.lycos.de/neuschnee/Clusterdiscs.htm

i was curious about those Ersatz lps, any other opinions? they (Ersatz lps) are hard to find!

actually it is worth getting and i take back my earlier comment. i downloaded it in full and it's very good. think i'll buy it when i get a chance as this mp3 rip is pretty bad.

-Harry

the pfm review of the Eno/Cluster discs last week was good, had one factual error: the Gyroscope CD reissues dated from 1996, not 1984/5

i was curious about those Ersatz lps, any other opinions? they (Ersatz lps) are hard to find!

I was the one posting upthread about these so sorry to post again -- I like them, though seldom play them often or even all the way through. The sounds are very similiar to what Moebius was doing on Moebius & Plank's En Route, which was recorded in 1986 but sounds unfinished and was only released later. The Ersatz records use the same clanking 80's drum machine and new digital synths, but they sound finished & weirder.

If you haven't heard Moebius & Beerbohm's Strange Music, get that first. It didn't strike me at once, but man has that record aged well, sounds like a couple of sessions recorded fast to tape but all the noises are incredibly bizarre -- I think Beerbohm's a drummer, several songs sound very punk. A record like this from 1982 is why I can't find the patience to listen to Black Dice. The second Moebius & Beerbohm record Double Cut is shockingly minimal -- side one is basically just someone strumming a few notes on a bass really fast into delay with no other sounds whatsoever and that's it, there's your money -- but y'know, it actually sounds great -- and side two is a 20 minute lo-fi 2/4 drum machine stomp with a simple two note riff and a lot of phasing & delay -- probably not enough to impress most people but me I wish it lasted forever

if you don't like Moebius/Plank/Neumeier's Zero Set, I can't help you

Tonspuren is Moebius pop melodies and the closest he ever got to Roedelius. Released around the same year as Roedelius' Offnen Turen which is the closest he ever got to Moebius' weird motorik rhythms

's okay, I like it, I have no need of your help!

the Lillental is up at '8 days in april'. apparently ripped from a CD -- news to me it had ever been reissued on disc, I've got to find that. the Lillental is Moebius' group from '78, released around the same time as Durch Die Wüste. most of it is simple atmospheric meandering sub-floydian pulse, but I like it more than a lot of things and there are a couple of standout weird tracks like 'Wattwurm'

Asmus Tietchens' interview in a recent issue of E|I magazine mentioned an unreleased 1978 Roedelius/Tietchens album -- he says it wasn't good enough to put out, apart from one track -- I bet a lot of people would love to hear that track

http://www.dietermoebius.de/s_nurton.htm

Realized a few months ago that my copy of Cluster '71 cannot be found. This is crazy because I am not one to lose CD's. The only thing I can figure is I must have sold it, but I can't imagine why.

Could it be this?
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=22648

I don't know why I have this memory. The album was listed as Roedelius but he was working with one other person.

Roedelius Works 1968 - 2005: Limited and Numbered Copies Hits The Shelves!

A number of limited edition Roedelius Works hit the shops today, a week before its standard release. The impressive package that is comprised entirely out of the foil material that is used to package fresh Salmon (we kid you not!) contains two CD’s that document the highlights of an illustrious musical career.

From being a founding member of Kluster in 1969 who’s eponymous debut pioneered the brick-a-brack approach to electronic music to working with a long list of impressive collaborators such as Holger Czukay (Can), Conrad Plank (Krautrock producer extraordinaire) and forming Cluster by adding luminaries such as Brian Eno and Michael Rother (NEU!) to the ranks. Hans Joachim Roedelius overall impact on many a musical genre is immense and he has often been credited as one of the ubermeiesters of what has affectionately known as Krautrock.

Works is the definitive Roedelius collection avalailable now for the first time and featuring music spanning five decades. We have a limited number of CD’s available through our own little retail outlet… all of which have their own unique number. So if your not in the position to trawl thorugh the more independent record shops... get clicking and we’ll send you one in the post while stocks last.

ROEDELIUS: WORKS 1968 - 2005
Limited and Numbered Release

CDGRON39

2CD Price: £17.99

CD1

1. Harmonia – Monza (Harmonia De Luxe, 1975)
2. Cluster – Hollywood (Zuckerzeit, 1974)
3. Cluster & Eno – Ho Renomo (1977)
4. Harmonia – Dino (Musik Von Harmonia, 1974)
5. Roedelius – Human Being/Excerpt (Live Im Zodiak, 1968)
6. Roedelius – Regenmacher (Durch Die Wueste, 1978)
7. Cluster - Oh Odessa (Cluster Curiosum, 1981)
8. Roedelius – Digital Love (Digital Love, 2002)
9. Cluster - Excerpt (Cluster 71,1971)
10. Lunz Live – Excerpt (taken from the MoreOhr Less Festival 2005) 11. Roedelius – Poetry (Pink Blue And Amber, 1996)
12. Roedelius – Freudentanz (Wenn Der Suedwind Weht, 1981)
13. Kluster – Klopfzeichen Excerpt (1970)
14. Roedelius - Amerika Recycled (2004)
15. Roedelius – Rue Fortune (Jardin Au Fou, 1979)

CD2

1. Roedelius – Zerrissen Zwischen Illusionen
(Lieder Vom Steinfeld, 1998)
2. Roedelius – Isleta (Aquarello , 1998)
3. Roedelius – By This Road (Before & After Science, 1977)
4. Cluster – Sowiesoso/excerpt (1974)
5. Roedelius – Twilighttide (Tace, 1993)
6. Roedelius – Einfach So (Piano Piano, 1991)
7. Lunz – Dew Climbs feat. Half Cousin, (Lunz-Reinterpretations, 2005) 8. Roedelius – Imogen (Remix by Imagine Imagine, NOH1, 2005)
9. Roedelius – Gewiss (Sebstportait I, 1978)
10. Cluster – Emmental (Apropos Cluster, 1990)
11. Kluster – Kluster & Eruption/Excerpt (1971)
12. Roedelius – Persistence Of Memory/Excerpt (2002)
13. Roedelius – Gefundene Zeit (Gift Of The Moment, 1984)
14. Roedelius – Voran (Selbstporait VII, 1990)
15. Roedelius – Blueblut (Roedeliusweg, 2000)
16. Roedelius – First Lesson (Aqueous & Roedelius, 1997)

and this peaks interest:

5. Roedelius – Human Being/Excerpt (Live Im Zodiak, 1968)

Haven't been too taken with most Roedelius of the last 15 years that I've heard. But the BBC had that stream of his Cut And Splice concert with Bayle earlier this year, and after he faded down that clunky beat and things got abstract & collaged -- it was _great_, I would buy a record of that in a heartbeat.

i still dont have 'jardin au fou' =(

1. cluster/eno live metz 77, 29:54
2/3. cluster/farnbauer, live vienna 80, 16:00 / 15:09

the last two tracks are taken directly from the two bonus tracks at the end of the Kluster reissues (if anyone has a copy of the entire tape, please drop me a line). the Cluster/Eno gig is a hissy cassette transfer of a room recording, but the music is one long throbbing drone piece, closer to Cluster II than their late 70's albums, good to know and I'll probably listen to it more than twice.

Following up the Water reissues, Captain Trips is doing limited editions of some of the Moebius this month -- Rastakraut Pasta, Material, Zero Set, Tonspuren & Blue Moon. Blue Moon is the only one of those that isn't a straight-up classic, and even that one has a few tracks I can't live without.

I picked up Moebius' new album Nurton a few months ago. He's definitely trying harder than he was on the last one Blotch -- feels more composed & layered. this structurally sounds the most like Tonspuren than anything since (short motorik pieces built out of weird sounds and riffs) but I still prefer his earlier synth sounds to the all-digital palette he's been working with since 1996 -- plenty of quirky noises, but they just don't sound as elliptical and abstract as the analog days. Still, since most of his other solos & groups since 1996 have been mostly long improvisation jam-band records, I'm happy about Nurton and my favorite couple of tracks are towards the end.