KNIVES OUT -- dir. Rian Johnson; Daniel Craig, Michael Shannon, Jamie Lee Curtis, Chris Evans, etc. etc.

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I *saw* Valerian lol

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

going by the trailer I can 1000% live without Chris Evans' version of being a movie star

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

it's been a long time since I've seen a trailer for something this strongly predestined to be a flop

― Simon H., Tuesday, July 2, 2019 8:54 AM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

so it's a non-star wars rian johnson film

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

Looper did fine, no?

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

Budget $30 million[4]
Box office $176.5 million[4]

pretty good!

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

lol yeah i always forget about looper, the other rian johnson film namechecked in the trailer

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link

trailer really got me when chris evans started telling a roomful of people to eat shit

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

but yeah I also hated The Brothers Bloom which is reason enough to avoid this one

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

(since this seems to be in a similar register)

that said, I would still see the cubicle-farm-set Brick sequel that lives in my head

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

when it comes to upcoming movies featuring rich people trapped in mansions, I would rather go see Ready or Not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtYTwUxhAoI

(which pretty much looks like Get Out without any social commentary but either looks preferable to the movie above)

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

FWIW, Longworth is Johnson's partner.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

nb that the ppl she's addressing are interested in movie-star-era Hollywood bcz of her own criticism and research and analysis and biographing and writing and speaking and broadcasting and publishing, not randos who know who her boyfriend is

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

i am going to see the hell out of this

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 11:07 (four years ago) link

when craig said "i suspect foul play" i shrieked

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 11:07 (four years ago) link

Something something "Clue: The Movie."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link

Very low bar but this looks way more interesting/entertaining than Joker

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link

Why'd you pick that one?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link

Because it looks like one of the worst movies ever made and I want to take any and every opportunity to talk shit about it

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 12:49 (four years ago) link

“This slime mold is horrible and clogging my pores but at least it isn’t fucking Joker.”

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

^^^ gets it

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link

heh, now I get it.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

I’m on board, I am already prepared to defend this movie at length against the gripes of you tedious aesthetes

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link

guy hitting the piano key only good thing in that trailer

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

That was a confusing trailer to watch trying to figure out when Thom Yorke appears.

So it's like the Westing Game?

Yerac, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link

Lakeith Stanfield chuckling at "CSI:KFC" also very funny.

I would honestly be pretty OK with seeing a non-comedy version of this, but once it became clear during the trailer that it was just a setup for lots of sitcom-y joke exchanges I was out.

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

It looks like a Saturday Night Live video piece where they take a 70s Agatha Christie movie and turn it so it's all about the Trump family.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

This looks ridiculous and I am here for it, can't wait.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

lol unperson otm

the ironic thing is that I can imagine a non comedy version of this actually being pretty funny if they just did it without all the JOEK moments and let it be campy pulp. But instead it looks like that weird mode of modern comedy where so much of the humor is just based on breaking the tension of dramatic moments by having characters suddenly say something snarky or confused. It's such a weirdly nervous and insecure style, like the filmmakers are constantly reminding you that they know they are making a comedy. You can just see them giving the script to a bunch of punchup sitcom writers and saying "make sure there is 1 joke on every page, no matter what"

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

so you do not like jokes, noted

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

I like jokes

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

Along the lines of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXn8CsQU1-U

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

Yeah but without peter sellers in yellowface

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that's pretty unwatchable.

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

Paging Morbs

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

So it's like the Westing Game?

once you see it... it can't be unseen

I wonder if everyone who watched Logan Lucky is going to get Daniel Craig to do ridiculous American regional accents now. It's a good bit.

mh, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

yeah lol

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

i like jokes fine but i'm just very bored w/stuff like toni collette's "no we cant ask?" bit, that style of gag is just so overdone and all over the place these days

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

I do not think this is supposed to be a Comedy...?

Like, yes there are some jokes in the trailer and the overall feel is ridiculous but it seems like it is aiming for irreverent drama over comedy; like is everyone assuming Chris Evans telling his whole family to eat shit is supposed to be a punchline or something? Did people think The Last Jedi was a comedy?

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

I mean, the referenced Toni Collete line doesn't land like a joke at all to me. This doesn't even scan to me as trying to be funny in the vein of The Royal Tenenbaums.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

i guess it depends on how finely you want to split the hair between "an irreverent drama that seems to have lots of jokes" vs "a comedy"

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

someone on twitter speculated that the film was pretty straight but they're hoping to market it as a parodic kind of thing

devvvine, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link

this looks like Brick or Brothers Bloom register aka "semi-wacky/irreverent/quirky genre exercises" (though the latter is considerably wackier)

Simon H., Wednesday, 3 July 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

Watching trailers on purpose is for the birds so I have v little idea of what this film is you’re all talking about

But murder by death, speaking of “jokes” and “doesn’t land” and “at all”, is a fascinating watch & entertaining if only for falk’s gumshoe bit and capote yelling at the Charlie Chan guy for stereotypically mangling his grammar while clearly being capable of genius-level deductive reasoning

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

the entire enterprise of miserable/cynical people being acerbic to each other is a cornerstone of british comedy and I at least give Johnson some credit for attempting an American version

mh, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link

I just googled Rian Johnson fully expecting Rhys Ifans to appear. I am disappointed.

Yerac, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

It's such a weirdly nervous and insecure style, like the filmmakers are constantly reminding you that they know they are making a comedy. You can just see them giving the script to a bunch of punchup sitcom writers

who are the "them" you are imagining throughout this scenario

(also haven't watched the trailer, I am not a disgusting savage)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

I shouldn't've clicked because "Rian Johnson" is good enough for me but oh well, I'm not a purist

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

it's pronounced like "ryan" which is the most disappointing part

mh, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

KNIVES OUT is a diabolical, hilarious, and massively entertaining whodunnit that updates the musty genre for the modern world and all of its MAGA assholes.

see it with the biggest crowd you can find. here’s my #tiff19 review: https://t.co/SQumxnFZ6q pic.twitter.com/hSTsJBg4Me

— david ehrlich (@davidehrlich) September 8, 2019

... (Eazy), Sunday, 8 September 2019 03:55 (four years ago) link

Just watched The Weekend Murders, a 1970 Giallo/whodunnt that's definitely the most proto-Knives Out thing I've seen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StWdTspZWLU

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 12 June 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

we have title

Benoit Blanc’s next case, the follow up to Knives Out, is called GLASS ONION. pic.twitter.com/6Zo0g1VX11

— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) June 13, 2022

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 June 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

That's...not what I expected

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 June 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

Radiohead, Beatles, just a classic rocker at heart.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

I really hope this one culminates in someone attempting to bludgeon an innocent character with a glass onion

castanuts (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

lol

mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

"to see how the other half live" in the lyrics is a good sign

if it involves a locked room with dovetail joints though

adam t. (abanana), Monday, 13 June 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link

Only one man can fix the hole in the ocean

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 13 June 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

have been trying to get my fix and can recommend, Evil Under the Sun, The Last of Sheila, Laura (1944), Death on the Nile (2022), The Thin Man (1934)

very open to recommendations, especially classic stuff, really any crime/mystery will do

corrs unplugged, Monday, 25 July 2022 11:32 (one year ago) link

and thanks for the advice already, this is where I came across Evil Under the Sun and The Last of Sheila

corrs unplugged, Monday, 25 July 2022 11:40 (one year ago) link

i've tried to watch Knives Out three times and just couldn't make it through - i think maybe i'm not cut out for the sardonic thing

Swen, Monday, 25 July 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link

The 70s Sleuth and Deathtrap should both qualify, right?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 25 July 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

(watch Sleuth before or in preference to [show hidden text], if you haven't before.)

― bad luck banging, or Lorna Doone (sic), Friday, February 4, 2022 7:53 AM (five months ago)

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Monday, 25 July 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

Not a movie, but a rep for the Agatha book, Crooked House

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 25 July 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

There was an adaptation a few years ago with a pretty decent cast. Anyone seen it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crooked_House_(film)

Number None, Thursday, 28 July 2022 06:11 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

So a bit more info here:

https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/glass-onion-knives-out-2-release-date-photos

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 August 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

And Johnson specifically names Evil Under the Sun and The Last of Sheila as the two touchstones here so there ya go.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 August 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

And this is the part I wanted to know:

Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery will premiere in select theaters on a to be announced date

Which will almost certainly mean my local Alamo so bring it on.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 August 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

I may have seen this, but I am not at liberty to say that I think it's even better than the first one... oh. https://t.co/AvRJDuvtUH

— edgarwright (@edgarwright) September 8, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link

And a full embed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xR_lBtEvSc

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 September 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link

Have some fun

https://www.knivesoutmystery.com/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 September 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Is this getting a short cinema release in the US as well? As far as I can tel it's getting one showing here as part of the BFI festival (Sunday week) and then that's it until it shows up on Netflix on Christmas week.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 October 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

Johnson mentions in the interview I linked something's in the cards. Netflix has done limited theater releases before -- that's how I saw The Irishman -- so I wouldn't be surprised.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 October 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

And speaking of theatrical showings

Alright! This is it! The follow up to Knives Out… Glass Onion! Thanksgiving! 600 theaters! ONE WEEK ONLY! Tickets on sale… RIGHT NOW!!! Get em while they’re hot! EXCLAMATION MARKS!! #glassonion 👉🏻👉🏻👉🏻👉🏻 https://t.co/FDfB8XYP8s pic.twitter.com/qZs0PYwOrr

— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) October 10, 2022

Seems to be only midnight showings right now in the SF area.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 October 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

Full array of shows where I am in NY, starting Wednesday 11/23. Still kinda hoping my Alamo will get it so I don't have to drive as far.

Nhex, Monday, 10 October 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

Yeah a refresh and a full slate is available. Works for me!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 October 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

Oh and

People of the UK! Here’s the link for tickets: https://t.co/wDFn31qZPR

— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) October 10, 2022

(Separately, seen a couple of posts indicating that a certain just-now-deceased old school star appears in the movie so Rian is two for two in killing off legends with these films. THE REAL MYSTERY.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link

To say nothing of Carrie Fisher (who would have been great in these kind of thing)

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 13 October 2022 09:57 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Almost here, at least in theaters, and I did like this interview tidbit:

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2022-11-16/daniel-craig-glass-onion-knives-out-netflix-james-bond

The soft pastels, creamy safari suits, high waists and jaunty neckerchiefs of Craig’s costumes in “Glass Onion” — which he described as a cross between Cary Grant in “To Catch a Thief” and Jacques Tati in “Monsieur Hulot’s Holiday” — signal a bolder, broader movie than “Knives Out.”

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 November 2022 05:25 (one year ago) link

Promising!

I’m hoping this will be playing in the Austin area next week, and that I can talk my son into seeing it with me.

(Or maybe we’ll just watch it on Netflix.)

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 17 November 2022 11:05 (one year ago) link

Anyone know if Netflix are getting the rights to the first film soon?

Want to rewatch it before seeing this

groovypanda, Thursday, 17 November 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

This was tons of fun. You don't need to see (or rewatch) the first one at all, not really. There are some great gags, many accidentally extremely well timed.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 November 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

Finally saw the first one last night and IDGI - a few quality moments but a terrible whodunnit and not a good comedy, stretched 40 minutes too long.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 25 November 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link

milo offtm

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 25 November 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link

Didn't love the first one, willing to believe the second one is a major improvement

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 25 November 2022 04:13 (one year ago) link

Milo otm

oscar bravo, Friday, 25 November 2022 07:41 (one year ago) link

still miles better that the recent kenneth branagh’s christie flicks

scanner darkly, Friday, 25 November 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link


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