taylor swift iridescent smoke bombs thread 2019 - lover

Why does this all ultimately feel like it's still about the Kim and Kanye thing? Like it's her final shot at getting people to see her as innocent or whatever; her coming out of that clean still seems SO important to her. She has known for ages that she doesn't own her masters. That 'not owning the masters' point is the one that people seem to be clinging to and raging about, where it seems like pretty standard in the pop world. How many pop stars own their masters? (not a rhetorical question if anyone knows).

She's good at whipping her fans into a frenzy, but look: her 2 singles from this album have been bad. I think there's only so far the manufactured celeb drama can carry in sustaining people's interest in her over the long term if she keeps releasing bad music.

fuckin excuse me

scooter braun is a piece of shit my man, think before posting, thanks

Taylor missed a chance to throw shade at Kanye by having one of those protesters hold a We Want Hen Fap sign.

― ☮ (peace, man), Monday, June 17, 2019 6:17 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

legitimate lol over here

"When you're fifteen, somebody gives you a contract, you're gonna sign it."

Glad she called out Kanye for the "Famous" video.

Response from the Big Machine guy: https://variety.com/2019/music/news/big-machines-scott-borchetta-fires-back-at-taylor-swift-reveals-deal-memos-1203256699/

More claims from both “camps”: https://variety.com/2019/music/news/taylor-swifts-masters-scooter-brauns-bullying-inside-the-big-machine-ithaca-holdings-deal-1203256640/

12. Important to note that last weekend, @scooterbraun posted this photo on his IG of him and his wife @yael along with @karliekloss and Josh Kushner.

Karlie has always been a very close friend of Taylor’s.

This is interesting.... pic.twitter.com/JUc2Qvuo9G

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) July 1, 2019

Lol no it’s not interesting

Taylor Swift claims victimhood despite being an incredibly wealthy, popular straight white woman in non-shocker, story at 5.

Seriously, I'm no fan of these music industry dudes like Braun and Borchetta, but what's happening here is clear. She's relying on a narrative of victimhood in order to stay afloat. Fuck her.

i would love for the thread to continue to be like this

why does an incredibly wealthy, popular straight white woman need to stay afloat? bc she released two singles that critics didn't like?

i'm also really enjoying the different permutations of "playing the victim" running through both that tweet thread and... this thread

guys this is quite liderally her worst-case scenaireo

Lol all these beefing dum dums. All I know about this Scooter dude is from that New Yorker profile several years ago when he and Justin Bieber were walking around punching people in the dick. Sounds about right. But all of these people, Taylor included, seem like they might also punch you in the dick without a moment's notice.

lol i guess she does not deserve me rushing to her defense

"lol no it's not interesting" the closest thing to otm here

whatever your thoughts on the personal politics the fact that the sale was assisted by the fuckin carlyle group is gross

ban investment funds imo

World War White People

— Omar S (@Omars_Words) July 1, 2019

6. Omg @todrick just posted these two tweets
7. Wow.
9. Holy cow.
10. Wow! Now Demi Lovato is getting involved.

Waiting for a reveal when the dust settles in, like, a day or two, that there has been an invisible puppet master working these very rich lying (I presume all of them) backstabbers behind the scenes. Smiling and twiddling his fingers like Mr Burns.

All I know is that if Taylor Swift was truly unaware that the rights to her life's work were being sold and transferred behind her back, let alone to an enemy, she needs new management.

I wonder what he will do with her masters? License them out to Trump rallies?

Light them on fire?

You know, ride the catalog trend.

No, that’s her new label

guys this is quite liderally her worst-case scenaireo

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, July 1, 2019 8:31 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A spokesman said, "this is the one thing we didn't want to happen."

The plot thickens: The head of Big Machine is named Scott. Taylor's dad is named Scott. Scooter's real first name? Scott. No wonder Taylor is paranoid.

Actual headline: Taylor Swift Vs. Scooter Braun: Will Ariana Grande Weigh In and What Happens Next?

I assume we all die.

guys I don't know isn't this just like the way society treats LGBTI people?

(please excuse the omitted Q in my rush to make u think)

https://pitchfork.com/news/taylor-swifts-music-ownership-controversy-with-scooter-braun-what-it-means-and-why-it-matters/

p clearheaded piece about this

posts upthread by people who hate taylor swift so much they’d rather defend the status quo of the record industry = a real good look

lol at the notion of Taylor Swift as anything other than her own gigantic status quo.

i'm aware that taylor swift is rich

It's not just that she is rich, it's that as far as I can tell she has yet to even make a case *why* she should get her masters back and have more power and make money at the expense of the indie label she made successful then left for Universal? Like I said earlier, a lot of this does not add up. At the least it seems inconceivable that this all went down without the knowledge of her or her management team, and if it did, she needs new management.

she has yet to even make a case *why* she should get her masters back

she's never owned her masters, this is the problem, they now belong to someone who sucks ass, this is the other problem

also josh i wasn't referring to you at all, mainly the two posters who've accused her of playing the victim which is some coded misogynistic nonsense

No, I know. I'm just asking what makes her special. Few artists, let alone at that level, own their own masters, unless maybe they were part of some renegotiated deal. Which I guess Big Machine tried, she didn't like, she left for more money and I assume more power elsewhere. Whether or not Scooter is an asshole seems irrelevant.

'All recording artists should own their masters' is a perfectly reasonable stance, regardless of who said recording artist happens to be.

i'm not arguing that she's special! and "that's just the way it is" seems more like a bruce hornsby song than a counterargument

She's only special insofar as she has more money/power to leverage than the overwhelming majority of singers/musicians. While that does make her insufferable on some level, I'm glad she's using her privilege for a good cause, even if she has something to gain in the process.

To be fair, the offer Swift claimed Big Machine offered her (the 'one for one' deal) was straight garbage.

hmm. should David Attenborough own the rights to Blue Planet II?

The fight to own masters is nothing new, people have been fighting this fight for a century. It is definitely not reasonable imo for a label, a business partner, to just give the masters back to the artist when they ask. They deserve some sort of compensation, don't they? The irony here is that Big Machine was the small indie, made huge by her success. She left for an even bigger major label, and we know how much they care about masters. I mean, we're not talking about Swift fighting with Greg Ginn and SST here.

The offer Swift claims Big Machine made may have been garbage, or maybe it was never made. These people all lie, all the time, especially when there are millions of dollars to be made.

The fact that it's nothing new doesn't make it any less significant imho. I understand your cynicism (and I frankly dislike TS's music, to boot), but if small steps are to be potentially made here, I'm all for it.

But she's not leading some artists rights charge is she? She just wants her masters back so she can have more power and make more money. How does that help anybody else?

The media is making it into a narrative about Taylor wanting to own the masters (which she does want obv) when, if you read the Tumblr post, it is clearly about Scooter owning said masters