Stonewall the QUEER SUMMER 2019

Stonewall the queer summer? More like bone all who're near summer!

i'm glad you're moving into comedy, honeybunch

I haven't gotten laid in like five days and i've had enough

loved this interview:

https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/06/jeremiah-newton-stonewall-interview-old-person-lgbtq.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwvQ-CPK0Z0

headed to this today: http://www.ifccenter.com/films/the-queen/

How was everyone's pride?

bcz i did not leave my apartment (except to buy food) until 7:20pm, great!

a few hours downtown followed by a trip up to central park - with a lengthy trip to Washington Square Park - strongly suggested a conflation of Pride with Carnival in a way I'd never seen before.

I've...never been to a Pride parade.

(Ours were a few weeks ago)

i sorta missed the parade this year but the streets were closed down and everything was shoulder to shoulder from downtown to midtown regardless

i'm a bit more of a Folsom Street Fair type, tbh. Pride often just seems like a bunch of corporate hooey and a lot of people getting way too fucked up. i find it depressing, and have felt this way even before i started really cutting back on drinking and partying.

(for reference to those who've never met me in person, i now drink approximately ten alcoholic beverages a month. i used to do that in the space of 48 hours, on a regular basis, for years).

There was an anti-corporate Queer Lib march apart from the big one, but I attended neither.

Folsom Strett East is two blocks long now... I did go to that a week ago, but just spectated for two hours.

the SF one was shut down in the middle yesterday for 50 minutes by anti-police /anti-corporation protestors

I don't go to Pride because I try to go outdoors in the summertime as little as possible.

yeah, heat + crowds + lots of music I don't need to hear again

spent about two hours in bar both Sat & Sun nights, that was my limit

i know about the protests at the SF parade. know one of the folks who was in that line.

but that disruption still won't get me near anything like a Pride parade. it's just not my thing— you can drag me to a party or something, yes, but a parade? fuck no.

I went to one once but it was in Berlin, just last year, as it happens. The Christopher Street Parade, they call it there. I had so much fun but I was extremely drunk and it was Berlin and was very ridiculous. I fell out with my friend who had decided to wear a dress but wasn't confident enough to be a guy in a dress so I had to supervise.

Actually, it was shit, apart from being wasted.

and I went into the Tiergarten after the parade ended and lots of men were cruising and that so it was interesting.

It was an experience.

see how bipolar I am.

i got excited reading about dore alley parties yesterday (i might go this year with my boyfriend) but i don't know. sometimes it's more fun to read about them, not go, and look at photos / listen to the sets later haha. i don't drink anymore so it's got to either have good music or good socializing. and not be at 2 in the morning. noncompliant is dj-ing. so is dj harvey. the harvey thing looks like a sex party maybe. i've always wanted to see him do his thing but i don't know if it's like too much work. i get tired at 10 every night lol.

xp jed i feel you, i always have the best and worst time at parties, alcohol dramatizes my mood swings.

and I know what you mean about being there or not but looking afterwards.

fuckin' hate parades
i stayed inside all day in the AC and tried to work on music

What goes less mentioned is that Stonewall was just two years old at the time, and when the first pride parade—then known as the Christopher Street Liberation Day March—was held the following year, the bar had already shut down after timidly limiting its drink selection to juices. The space became a bagel shop, a Chinese restaurant, and a shoe store until its current iteration opened in 1990. As much as Stonewall galvanized the gay community, that community navigated both its 1970s heyday and the apocalyptic throes of the AIDS crisis without it. Pride finds a way....

“Circuit parties [gay raves] and parades are thriving. Grindr isn’t killing them and Grindr isn’t killing gay bars. Boredom is,” posits Daniel Nardicio, an impresario of gay nightlife in New York who also runs his own gay bar and cabaret, Club Cumming, with actor Alan Cumming. “Ooh, you have drag bingo? Drag brunch? Drag karaoke? Stop. Give me something new, not just a rainbow on a bottle of Absolut or a retirement home cliché hosted by a drag queen.”

Even as gay bars have ridden the acclaimed historic visibility of television shows including RuPaul’s Drag Race and Pose, they’ve merely become “vessels for viewing parties” of those shows, adds Nardicio.

Gay bars are “stuck,” he says, and he has a theory about why.

“AIDS killed lots of artists and free spirits, but it also killed people who would’ve grown up to become mentors to everyone under 50 now. We grew up alone and without that sense of connection across generations. We lost them, and we’ve paid the price by slipping from the creative class to the consumer class. We went from radical to basic.” “Basic,” according to the Urban Dictionary of American slang, is one “only interested in things mainstream, popular, and trending.” Consider how derivative 2019 queer culture seems compared with 1967. Gay liberation pulls its punches....

In contrast to broad LGBTQ acceptance by the mainstream, queer culture itself has fought and fractured internally largely along racial lines. The idea of a united gay community in 2019 is as much a fantasy as there ever was for a demographic group whose sole uniting factor is sexual preference and societal marginalization—not, say, age, creed, career, class, color, health, or regionalism, the identities around which Americans often coalesce. So as gay bars embrace bachelorettes and other straight audiences even as they tell trans women they “aren’t real women,” or assert that centering blackness too much is “not good for the businesses,” there is actually more of a need for more vulnerable members of the queer spectrum to have spaces that feel safe to them, and exclusively for them.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/the-american-gay-bar-is-down-but-don-t-count-it-out-just-yet

totally agree
so much basic
it's shit
i always say i wish i had grown up in new york in the 80s....without all the death.

gratified to seem some grousing about the gross corporate hedonism of pride parades, cuz I was starting to feel like a homophobe last weekend for having similar thoughts

are you kidding? half my contemporaries are morons, sorry ya shits

it's a miracle i found any gay friends in this city tbh

They don't come more basic than me, sorry to say.

waitaminit, surm are you in SF?!

you're high-end basic, dear

xp

omg no i wish! in NYC, sorry if i confused you!
and Eric i beg to differ. you have a big heart. that's p unbasic, shocking as that may be.

btw Happy Roundnumber Birthday, Eric!

The only thing I remember about the summer of '79 is I saw a double bill of Animal House and Putney Swope at my hometown theater.

Round number and rounder midsection!

all part of the otter to bear transformation

I'm having Jake over tonight
There's a real spark there!
He's adorable and sexy af and I'm a little bit pinching myself
!!!!

Jake Ryan?

Lol nooooo
Jake with the floppy hair who lives on my street and wants to watch horror movies with me!!!!!

damn, see what I miss by hating horror movies

:P he let me top and now I want a burger

Horror movies, topping and burgers?! Keep that one!

Omg right

hooked up with a dude at a wedding I attended -- Brooklyn's good for that sort of thing

Lol Brooklyn is so slutty. What did he look like?! Give us the deets

I don't get nuthin in Brooklyn

I feel lost that I haven't had my fill of Manhattan gays ever
Am I missing much?
This guy I was seeing recently gave me a dispassionate goodbye and I figured we came to parting ways but he texted last night
I'm gonna make him wait a few days before I respond.

I shaved my balls while listening to The Hidden Cameras this morning. Don't really care for the song that much but I really like the lyrics:

Hunting hair to find emotional grace
I am scared you'll see my body and know
That removing hair has taken over my life
And I don't know how to stop

I want another enema, nema, nema
Good waste is an oxymoron, moron, moron
My body is an exit wound, oh my wounds, oh my wounds
I want another enema, nema, nema

hairless balls make me sad

i'm debating whether or not to befriend more straight men
sometimes i like them
i dunno

happy almost fall!!!!!
I'm quite enjoying having a bachelor pad I mean, I can basically do whatever I want whenever I want it
IT'S NOT BAD

This dude I dated for a few months before we decided to be friends instead, I love him so so much
Today I spoke to him on the phone, he was expressing some body image issues
And I told him that, in fact, he was so beautiful that it felt cruel
He liked that!

aw that is so sweet
i think i would really like to hear that if i were in his shoes

congrats on your move surm

thank you!!! you know, i actually kept the apartment so while it wasn't a move, it really feels like a brand new home with just me there. i have to do a lot of redecorating soon....

The new Azealia Banks mixtape has gotten a lot of weird ire online but I just listened to it twice through and it fucking rules

I don't know where else to put that statement

<3
i can't stop listening to Kelly by Kelly Rowland
like over and over

packed house at Lincoln Center last night to see Lily Tomlin & Jane Wagner

lots of women, gayz, couples

a line I'd forgotten from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe is "What's the point of being a hedonist if you're not having a good time?"

Oh yeah a friend of mine was at that thing and posted about it on Facebook
My bf saw the update and said "I do not understand a single word of this Facebook post"

There were superfans rushing the stage for selfies with Lily at the end. What the hell is wrong with people?

tbh i have a limited number of people i would want selfies with but lily tomlin is one of them

i might too, but not in the middle of a scrum.

no, agreed; that's always a bad look up to and including the most famous of people

I have a photo of myself with Lily but it wasn’t a selfie and I hadn’t planned on asking for it - on the rare occasions I meet Very Famous People I don’t usually ask for photos. But she was very nice about it.

so liiiiike
i'm getting together with a guy tonight who's super into this dom sub stuff
like i think he wants me to slap him around which don't get me wrong, i'm totally into
but it's been a hot minute sooo i just hope i haven't lost my touch
also i have a 4th date with a reallllly nice and handsome guy on Friday. he used to be a runway model so i have no idea what he's doing with me but I'LL TAKE IT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOMvs_1UFCk

:P :D :D

I
Just
Took advantage of the "open" nature of my relationship for the first time in a year-and-a-half. It was a total surprise! A friend came over for lunch, he lingered, it was clear he was interested, I offered, he pretended to act surprised, etc.

I wasn't especially attracted to the guy? But I like him a lot personally? But it was weirdly, still, the best O I've had in a long, long time. It was really hot and the dude was clearly very happy about it too.

But then, of course, after he left, I became Lady Macbeth, scrubbing the condom smell from my hands, laundering literally everything in the house, showering shaving making dinner basically had an extended domestic explosion in response to this

I get it but I don't get it, really. Monogamous Sex That Is Just Fine is so perfect, problem free, reliable, easy, I am still so confused by this dynamic.

well, that is a very domestic goddess dynamic

“I learned to cook this good because I was always cheating on my boyfriend”

yeah p much

it's also like a primitive thing tho
sex with strangers, in terms of evolution speaking, is not as safe as the one you know
it makes sense that after he leaves you would want to expound upon the safety and tranquility of your home

not that your friend is a stranger but you kwim

Pro-tip: if you're gonna have sex with one of your closest friends, be sure it's at least good sex and not mediocre sex like I endured Sat night/Sunday morning.

mediocre is often good enough.

not ready to start a fall thread yet (maybe cuz it's 89 F in NYC today) but i can't think of a good title.

fuck. so ready for 65 degrees.

ummm also Alfred that's a really good tip

xp from my own post in the "nobody goes to the theater" thread but i love this musical and wish everyone would give it a listen so:

The OST for the outrageously good and crazy wordy "A Strange Loop" came out today - described by the Liz Phair loving playwright/composer as a musical about a black, fat, queer, effeminate theater nerd searching for meaning by writing a musical about a black, fat, queer, effeminate theater nerd who writes a musical about a black, fat, queer, effeminate theater nerd searching for meaning - and it's great.

Author is Michael (r) Jackson, so he names the lead of his roman a clef "Usher" and he's an usher at a Disney show. Highly recommended!
https://open.spotify.com/album/7vlAmEdZEOVdRUsB4fgrvC?si=1MkKwKxrSPKsLgS_qkobmg

"Inwood Daddy," in context, is fucking devastating

Ahhh hahahah that sounds so awesome!!

i think you'll love it fgti, kinda has your name on it; would love to see you and jackson collabo.

so i just started getting furniture in my bach pad
feels so gooood

including the waterbed?

ha that would be the day

summer is over, queers

THANK GOD

Do not accept.

are you saying we need a new thread morbzy?

i have a really unpopular title ready, so beat me to it

No please share.

Hurry up and make the thread I have sumthin to say

https://66.media.tumblr.com/d1b2b986c8e1ef88e9f1f57f29725a01/tumblr_p542ecSrAK1tstd16o2_250.gif

Oh no, I was posting that in a Jazmine Masters voice

--- - Oop

Canceling Ellen and the NFL: QUEER FALL of 2019