Rolling 2018 Thread on Race

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They thought they had someone they could brutalize who wouldn't fight back.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link

"Police urge people not to rush ‘to judgement against the police without all the information..."

Dukes was ultimately charged with disorderly conduct, after an investigation revealed he had no intention of stealing the IV stand, said Freeport police Lt. Andrew Schroeder.

A full investigation revealed that after coming all this way police were able to determine that the suspect who was by the way no angel was clearly guilty of something because otherwise we wouldn't be here now would we? Case closed!

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 28 June 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

"disorderly conduct" is cop-speak for not being appropriately deferential to the thin blue line that separates us from the savages/not thanking them for hassling you

Οὖτις, Friday, 28 June 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

Police urge people not to rush ‘to judgement against the police without all the information’

Should I give the site the benefit of the doubt and assume the reason they used this quote to lead the article is out of irony?

viborg, Saturday, 29 June 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Horrible.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 10:54 (four years ago) link

jesus.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/12/entertainment/sarah-silverman-blackface-scli-intl/index.html

I think this is a ridiculous overreaction to a great sketch that was a top-to-bottom condemnation of racism and blackface

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 12 August 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

She did a huuuuuuge mea culpa for thatvepisode on her current show (I Love You America) last year, which was interesting

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link

What's the word for when someone apologizes for something they shouldn't need to?

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

I was sure Chris Cuomo would figure into this thread revive.

Simon H., Tuesday, 13 August 2019 02:24 (four years ago) link

Absolutely essential story: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/09/this-land-was-our-land/594742/

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 10:42 (four years ago) link

This cosmic balance sheet underpins the national conversation—ever more robust—about reparations for black Americans. In that conversation, given momentum in part by the publication of Ta-Nehisi Coates’s “The Case for Reparations” in this magazine in 2014, I hear echoes of Mississippi. I hear echoes of Hamer, the Scotts, Henry Woodard Sr., and others who petitioned the federal government to hold itself accountable for a history of extraction that has extended well beyond enslavement. But that conversation too easily becomes technical. How do we quantify discrimination? How do we define who was discriminated against? How do we repay those people according to what has been defined and quantified? The idea of reparations sometimes seems like a problem of economic rightsizing—something for the quants and wonks to work out.

Economics is, of course, a major consideration. According to the researchers Francis and Hamilton, “The dispossession of black agricultural land resulted in the loss of hundreds of billions of dollars of black wealth. We must emphasize this estimate is conservative … Depending on multiplier effects, rates of returns, and other factors, it could reach into the trillions.” The large wealth gap between white and black families today exists in part because of this historic loss.

But money does not define every dimension of land theft. Were it not for dispossession, Mississippi today might well be a majority-black state, with a radically different political destiny. Imagine the difference in our national politics if the center of gravity of black electoral strength had remained in the South after the Voting Rights Act was passed.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link

I was sure Chris Cuomo would figure into this thread revive.

I just watched that clip and loooooooooooooooool

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 11:29 (four years ago) link

straight outta that sopranos episode

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 August 2019 12:01 (four years ago) link

I've never heard of "I'll ruin your shit" before

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 12:03 (four years ago) link

I'm simultaneously like "what ridiculous nonsense" and "RUIN HIS SHIT, CHRIS; STRAIGHT UP MURDER HIM"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

How to solve racism in 'Murica forever:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/aug/15/white-professor-investigated-quoting-james-baldwin-use-of-n-word-laurie-sheck

pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

Sheck told Inside Higher Education that a white student had objected to her language. According to Sheck, she questioned the student about her objection, who said she had been told by a previous professor that white people should never use the term. At the end of term, the student gave a presentation about racism at the New School.

comedy descending notes played on a muted trumpet

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

or trombone rather

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

That Justin Trudeau is out of control.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 06:49 (four years ago) link

Ugh indeed.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 08:34 (four years ago) link

they really should add on to that lonely slave heritage statue that was an auction block: "the Tayloe family traded slaves here, probably still would if they could" and just let the lawsuits roll

mh, Thursday, 26 September 2019 04:00 (four years ago) link

that case SLAPPs

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 26 September 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

otm

mh, Thursday, 26 September 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

in all the right places

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 26 September 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

you guys, this story is like a series of racist nesting dolls

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/us/carson-king-aaron-calvin-des-moines-register-trnd/index.html

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 27 September 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

I have been actively trying to ignore it, as it gets dumber with every update.
This is the best coverage imo: https://deadspin.com/is-beer-money-sign-man-sorry-for-old-racist-tweets-1838457224

mh, Friday, 27 September 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

ha

I can't wait for the editor's old racist tweets to resurface

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 27 September 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

It's a Gannett paper, so the salary is crap and the majority of the staff is probably below age 25. I give it.. a day or two at most

mh, Friday, 27 September 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

I can't spare the brain cells to investigate the entire timeline of this but at least one of the racist tweeters involved was 16 at the time? Do I understand that correctly?

Gotta say I'm glad there was no social med when I was 16 to catalog the things I firmly believed at the time bc the evangelical church told me to. o_____O

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 27 September 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

Not saying 16 yos shouldn't be held accountable, just saying I'm grateful to be old.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 27 September 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link

Yeah I mean, I think this largely played out correctly? Dude raised money, shit was brought up from his past, he gave what I thought was a legit apology, the corporate sponsor did the predictable corporate sponsor thing, the hospital is still getting money, everything is good and golden.

Where it gets funny is when the reporter's shit pops up

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 27 September 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

I feel dumber every moment I hear about this story, and never need to hear coworkers talk about it again, but here we go

1. Guy holds up stupid sign with his venmo address asking for beer money for busch light at state's largest college football event
2. Fans send him ridiculous amount of money
3. He vows to send money to a children's hospital, beer company says they'll match it and send him a bunch of beer. Dumb ploy makes good for everyone, ok so far
4. Local paper reporter decides to check out guy before publishing another article, finds idiot racist teenage tweets
5. Paper reaches out to guy saying they found this, deciding what to do with it
6. Guy preemptively tells everyone he was an idiot teen, is no longer idiot teen
7. Paper writes round-up on all that has happened, tries to make clear they were preempted
7a. College football fans go nuts trying to figure out how to cancel their nonexistent newspaper subscriptions
8. Beer company still going to donate money, not going to give guy free beer
8a. Some fans with poor reading comprehension think beer company is not giving money to hospital, vow to never drink their beer again
9. Reporter who initially found racist tweets investigated by roving mob of online college football fans, racist tweets found
9a. Fans attempt to destroy reporter in addition to paper, salt earth

I have not worked from the office today and have heard nothing more

mh, Friday, 27 September 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

xp yeah, everything resolved relatively ok, other than the college football fans who are trying to figure out where to aim the torches and pitchforks still roaming around. apparently the reporter is fired now?

the governor was/is proclaiming a state day after the beer donation guy, but I'm unsure whether it was before or after the racist tweet debacle. I'm assuming after, because the governor is an idiot

mh, Friday, 27 September 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/from-the-editor/2019/09/26/carson-king-tweet-editor-response-investigation-iowa-childrens-hospital-donations/3780741002/

I'm hoping this dies, but I'm also wondering if the beer guy's going to be outed as the son of a racist cop

mh, Friday, 27 September 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

you get a milkshake duck! and you get a milkshake duck! everybody gets a milkshake duck!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 27 September 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

everybody IS a milkshake duck inside a larger, slightly more racist milkshake duck

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 27 September 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

it's completely wild to me that companies, like newspapers, let reporters use their existing twitter accounts (and get them verified) when they become reporters

and also amazing that people would want their twitter presence, including all existing tweets, linked to their employer in that way

mh, Friday, 27 September 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

I KNOW RIGHT

I say absolutely NOTHING about my job on Twitter and am prepared to nuke the entire account if I ever become famous and I haven't really said all that much that's controversial

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 27 September 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

xxp to djp, see now THAT i would truth bomb!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 27 September 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

lol this reminds me of my friend who is very good at many things but was very naive about social profile in the past. his idea was that he has no real regrets portraying any part of his life to the world, nbd

so he was a little confused when a friend asked him to remove pictures of her at a party at his place, or at least remove her name, but came around to it. the final nail in the coffin was probably when he absent-mindedly posted a picture of his new drivers license because the picture was funny, and forgot to obscure details. you've heard of identity theft? that's how you get identity theft.

I did say naive, right? going to stick with that out of kindness

mh, Friday, 27 September 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link

looooooooool

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 27 September 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

The longevity of these accounts is fascinating. There have been enough times where I dive into someone's Facebook photos and then scamper right back out as soon as the sixth-grade church camp photos appear.

Not saying I'm without a little guilt: Beeps has already gotten on to me after she found kid photos of her on my Instagram. But Beeps! I said, that account is locked and private!

Good thing she hasn't found this place yet.

Anyway. Good thing this is an Iowa newspaper. Otherwise, we'd be waiting on "This just in... Newspaper endorsed Dred Scott decision..."

pplains, Saturday, 28 September 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2016/08/half-of-wisconsins-black-neighborhoods-are-jails/495152/

Sharing this info on the Young, Gifted, and Black Coalition’s blog, Blank explains that he used the Racial Dot Map to identify where predominantly black neighborhoods—defined as “a certain area where the majority of residents are African Americans”—are located throughout the state. There are 56 of them, 31 of which are either jails or prisons. There are 15 cities where the only black neighborhood is a jail. The city of Winnebago claims it has an African-American population of more than 19 percent, but most, if not all, of that black population is located among one of four correctional facilities there. It’s perhaps no wonder that Wisconsin perennially comes up as the worst place for African Americans to live in the country.

old but, man

j., Saturday, 23 November 2019 03:26 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

oh god

brad pitt jamaican king pic.twitter.com/dnOf9fw0f2

— florence niggh (@ohfIux) December 8, 2019

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 9 December 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link

lol wtf is that from

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 9 December 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

meet joe black, whose title was apparently more literal than i realised at the time of its realise

a synthesis of Trotskyism and Ufology (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 9 December 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link


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