I Just Wanted To Take Another Look At You - the 2018 ILX Film Poll Results Thread

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4. Zama
w/d: Lucrecia Martel
AR 2017 digital
462 points, 15 votes, 3 #1s

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link

Placed at #36 in 2017, with 56 points and 3 votes.

Zama is often inscrutable but beguilingly so.

- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 25 July 2018

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link

thanks to my pal who asked me to go see this with him, what a picture. He deserved everything he got tbh

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link

"¿Quieres vivir?"

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link

12 on my ballot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjwfunNyBZ0

devvvine, Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link

woulda been my #1 or 2 if I'd voted

Simon H., Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link

Marvelous.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:38 (four years ago) link

such a great scene, with the llama and those descending electronic tones that seem to occur at the moments of greatest dread

Dan S, Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link

Lucrecia Martel deserves more writing.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link

the film had a lot of striking elements

Dan S, Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link

Martel thread ftr: the films of Lucrecia Martel, most recently "The Headless Woman"

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link

the story did meander, although I thought that deepened its kafkaesque quality

Dan S, Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:51 (four years ago) link

seems to be a theme of her films, things spiraling out of the characters' control

Dan S, Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:53 (four years ago) link

there were animals or animal sounds in almost every scene, including the llama and especially the horse on the beach who turned slowly around and looked directly at the camera just before the most shocking scene

Dan S, Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link

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3. 버닝 [Burning]
d: Lee Chang-dong w: Oh Jung-mi, Lee Chang-dong b: Haruki Murakami
KR 2018 digital
492 points, 18 votes, 1 #1

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link

I don't think it's out of the question that during the pivotal "I burn greenhouses" scene, that Ben is a urban trust fund guy who thinks it's funny to mess with a guy he thinks is a country rube.

― intheblanks, Friday, December 14, 2018

intheblanks, you did notice there was a litter box filled with cat shit, right?

― Frederik B, Friday, December 14, 2018

Fred, go to lunch

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link

arguing about Burning <<<<<<<<< Bernie

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 June 2019 23:59 (four years ago) link

i kinda wish this film was messier, it all feels so composed and symmetrical in a way that worked against the 'mystery'. anyway liked it, voted for it

devvvine, Friday, 28 June 2019 00:00 (four years ago) link

Missed all of the presumable top 3, not really on purpose though.

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:03 (four years ago) link

in your defence, the tsai ming-liang vr film was easy to miss

devvvine, Friday, 28 June 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link

loved this. thought the two other films of his I've seen were also really great: Secret Sunshine and Poetry

Dan S, Friday, 28 June 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link

Poetry is the better film.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link

I had Burning pegged to win it all, tbh.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link

now who's predicting

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:13 (four years ago) link

Good film; my first by Lee, so time to catch up.

Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link

Debate's starting soon. Hurry!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link

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2. 万引き家族 [Shoplifters]
w/d: Kore-eda Hirokazu
JP 2018 35mm
520 points, 18 votes

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link

this was quite good again - I just like what Kore-eda does. There was a lot more around sex and intimacy than usual for him with all the elements in previous films (getting by in an affluent society, or the unusual arrangements of family) in a light touch manner that brings people over.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, November 28, 2018

Hirokazu Kore-Eda Thread

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link

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1. First Reformed
w/d: Paul Schrader
US 2017 digital 2.8K
556 points, 18 votes, 4 #1s

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link

Is Amanda Seyfried in any movies where her boyfriend isn't a fuck-up?

― Philip Nunez, Sunday, July 1, 2018

Paul Schrader's 'slow' transcendental drama FIRST REFORMED w/ Ethan Hawke

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:32 (four years ago) link

Cheers to all voters, posters, and lurkers here and through the year. Ballot exhibitionists, please use the separate thread: BALLOTS: Endgame - ILM 2018 film poll ballot depository in order to keep this one searchable.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link

deserved congrats to weird uncle schrader

shoplifters soared whenever ando was on screen, performance of the year

thanks for running the poll sic!!!

devvvine, Friday, 28 June 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link

Thank you sic!

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link

Wow -- best one-two in a film poll here.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link

I remember liking zama, but it’s been two years and I don’t remember anything about it now

k3vin k., Friday, 28 June 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link

You saw it in 2017?1

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:48 (four years ago) link

I did too

Simon H., Friday, 28 June 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link

xp I thought on the surface it was about the bureaucratic layers, dead-ends, degradation and shame that Diego de Zama experiences in his attempts to get reposted away from Paraguay, which in the end turns into literal bodily degradation. Feels obv like there was a lot more going on on a deeper level

there were also a lot of strange seemingly random events: the people in a secret room crowded around a sanadora who is smoking a cigar and performing a healing ritual, the scene in the crypt where lyme is being dropped over the dead body of el oriental, the voiceover moment of the assistant to the Gobernador, while fondling what he thinks are the dried up ears of Vicuña Porto which were supposedly cut off before his execution (viewing this scene the second time through I could better see its portentous quality), the ghost hotel that Diego de Zama stays at on the outskirts of the town

Dan S, Friday, 28 June 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link

You saw it in 2017?1

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it played at NYFF

k3vin k., Friday, 28 June 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link

fuckin snobs

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:55 (four years ago) link

the most compelling theme of the movie to me was the depiction of banal oppression (as opposed to histrionic, crushing oppression) of life under colonial rule

Simon H., Friday, 28 June 2019 00:59 (four years ago) link

Top 4 feels right.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 28 June 2019 01:02 (four years ago) link

Good poll, sic, thanks for running it. Been too busy to comment much but I enjoyed the rollout.

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Friday, 28 June 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link

xxp I loved Daniel Giménez Cacho's performance in this, he was so consistently self-possessed

Dan S, Friday, 28 June 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link

also Lola Dueñas (Luciana) was mesmerizing as the gossipy noblewoman who teases and frustrates him

Dan S, Friday, 28 June 2019 01:08 (four years ago) link

re: Shoplifters, I think Sakura Andô is great in this but I also love Lily Franky and Kirin Kiki

feels in retrospect that the crucial scene in it is when Shota confronts Osamu over breaking their moral code

Dan S, Friday, 28 June 2019 01:25 (four years ago) link

I liked First Reformed a lot, voted for it, but also had a hard time with it, is was so cold and sad. I had to watch the last few scenes over again for the events of it to really sink in, was the ending supposed to represent reality or a dying man's fantasy?

I will revisit the whole thing again at some point but it was heartbreaking to watch

Dan S, Friday, 28 June 2019 01:49 (four years ago) link

THANK YOU SIC!

flappy bird, Friday, 28 June 2019 01:51 (four years ago) link

imo "cold" is not a pejorative

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2019 02:02 (four years ago) link

no I agree, but i grew up in a strict, religious germanic family and "cold" in that sense is an element that I react to

Dan S, Friday, 28 June 2019 02:10 (four years ago) link


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