The Lysergic Acid Diethylamidiotic Joe Biden & Sarah Palin VP Presidential Debate thread in the 2 zero zero 8 (2008 party over oops)

countdown opening was lol

― joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, October 2, 2008 5:01 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is he really calling this a KO in favor of biden???? loool

ugh my democrat mom thought "she looked beautiful and spoke good"

heh heh heh - The drill drill dril; comment even had Palin smirking!

i don't think i'm really equipped to say how the ridiculous pholksy phrases will play where it counts, but i kinda suspect that people know a gimmick when they see one, especially after recent events with john mccain

is he really calling this a KO in favor of biden???? loool

not really

Vic, is there a way to explain to your Mom that most of what she said was incoherent babble? that she doesn't know what "attributed to" means, for instance?

one entire bottle of Unibrouwe Terrible

never seen this one -- is it as tasty (and as strong) as Trois Pistoles or Fin Du Monde?

"i don't think i'm really equipped to say how the ridiculous pholksy phrases will play where it counts, but i kinda suspect that people know a gimmick when they see one, especially after recent events with john mccain"

OMG gabbbeb, I so hope people see thru it for what it was - playing the the middle state audience!

watching sarah palin was the closest i've come to seeing someone vomit in public.

gabbneb can you not pick fights with people's mothers, who don't even post here

I will be interested in hearing if anyone DOES comment upon it.

they mentioned it on PBS. Honestly though it was no Muskie moment.

i think they're gonna put petraeus on the $20 bill

ugh my democrat mom thought "she looked beautiful and spoke good"

― Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:03 (7 minutes ago) Permalink

terrible

If Palin Becomes Veep [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Joe Six-Pack would have won. It will be the Joe Six-Pack election.

10/02 09:14 PM

yeah my democrat mom thought she did well too, although it seems that for most people as long as palin didn't go full retard they would call the debate for her.

what was that "shout out to the third graders" bullshit

her exact peers?

"she won by not losing"

i'm just surprised the analysts aren't focusing more on the actual debate. just on who spoke like what.

I thought she did ok when she was off script, in the segment on foreign policy, when she attacked Biden on his disagreements with Obama on Iraq. o/w she was non-responsive to questions. Biden seemed fine, killed it a couple of times, hung in there the rest of the time.

It was mostly about McCain: that was Biden's goal, and he stuck to it; and Palin seemed to have the same goal. Obama came up a lot at first, less so as the debate wen ton. Biden seemed to make a point of not responding to Palin's views, but to McCain's views, making sure the focus stayed on McCain rather than Palin.

Biden getting choked up vid is available here: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/vpdebate.videos/index.html

It got to me, at least.

me too :(

palin did well, but only in not blanking out/no embarrassing silences, etc. it was impressive enough that she was at that level of coherence, but it precluded any actual attacks; it's like last week, when obama attacked mccain and mccain attacked bush - it was only biden that got to really lay into them on the basis of records. i think the dems probably won the news cycle thing; biden looked shifty throughout, but when he'd go for the camera he was bold, spoke with gravitas, etc.

i still can't believe that she raised the 'you're pointing at the past' thing twice without getting pulled up on it/allowing venerable biden to dispatch lofty condemned-to-repeat-itself cliches. biden WIN for courting undecideds with his fluency, palin SECOND PLACE PRIZE for doing her base proud.

no women's rights questions though, despite roe/wade and biden mentioning introducing the act he wrote: disappointing.

Biden killed in all categories on MediaCurves.com

It may already have been discussed, but since I seem to be the infrequent and absentee ILXor, I pose a question to all here: I reside in CA. Even in this left leaning state I hear people that I know to be left leaning saying the following things:
1) Obama should have taken Hil as the Veep. It would have helped him to win
2) (This one irks and scares me)No matter what he says and stands for, Obama will never win this election b/c of the many votes held by the middle states; be they democ or repub they simply won't elect a black man as pres of the US b/c they're still to old skool bigots. Comments?

lol klo posted this:

FOX NEWS
Has their text message poll in Blue for Biden and Pink for Palen. For real.

1) Obama should have taken Hil as the Veep. It would have helped him to win

true indeed. Two women on the ticket would equal a big nothing

klo:

PALIN’S PROBLEM
Is she doesn’t have thorough substantive comebacks. I don’t think it will matter to people. It will matter to MSNBC. They’re not people. They’re left-wingbots

Mom: 'Admit it, you were impressed. I bet she was faking all those dumb answers to Katie Couric to soften people up for that.'

S: 'I already knew she could debate using five sets of GOPAC taking points, but if she's into wasting the time of journalists and by extension the voters in this very important election, that shows plus de ego and minus de common sense.'

THE MOST DISTURBING PART OF THAT DEBATE
May have been Biden’s veep answer. Someone get that man a pocket Constitution. The Heritage Foundation should do a drop tomorrow.

RESPECT FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS??!?!

― Savannah Smiles, Thursday, October 2, 2008 9:50 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

^^^

I know.

― Fr. Jemima Racktouey (ENBB), Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:52 PM (1 minute ago)

― kate78, Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

also, it was very satisfying to hear Biden talk about Cheny's unconstitutional expansion of the vice-presidency in exactly the tone merited, i.e. alarm. wtf @ Sarah Palin endorsing Cheney's power hunger?

can I just say that there is no letter K in Ahmenidijad? Both of them kept pronouncing it Akmedinijad. Not that anyone cares, especially since Palin kept trotting out nukular and all.

her suit and shoes were beautiful.

pronouncing Ahmed "Ackmed" is such a canonical orientalism i don't think it reads as wrong to anyone in the west.

black guy + woman ticket would have been countered by reliable, avuncular, sparring back-to-back photo-op white-guy duo, who would've romped home.

xp affirmative to women's rights. that should have been a question, it involves the two of them in such diametrically opposed ways.

not as big a deal as the fact that she never made any fucking sense or completed any of her sentences.

i meant her mispronunciation isn't as big a deal, not her utter, disgusting hypocrisy about women's rights.

hear hear and right on horseshoe! and she didn't once answer coherently (again).

Palin Tonight [Mark R. Levin]

I have been involved in and observed politics for a long time. Governor Palin is a truly unique national figure. She is down to earth, personable, and smart as hell. That's right. She has been on the national scene for a little over a month, she has been campaigning everywhere, she has had to bone up on all kinds of national issues, and she has shown class throughout. Too often too many are persuaded by the mainstream media's opinion and react to that. This should be another lesson in that regard. As for some of her populist views, she cannot openly campaign against the positions of her presidential running mate. She is the bright light in this campaign from my perspective.

I don't remember the particular question but the most egregious case of not answering the question had to be where the question was about bankrupcy reform and she said "my answer is no" and then starting talking about oil? wtf?

yeah but she actually said "and since that was such a short answer, let me adress energy..."

I'd love to be able to get away with that during an exam.

"I don't know anything about the life of Peter, but let me tell you about the life of Jesus..."

lol:

K-Lo

An e-mail: "She failed to answer many of the questions. If a man gave this performance he would have been cruicified."

I think any curve grade — and I don't really think you had to grade on a curve to say she won — is granted because she is new to this, not because she's a chick.

CNN & CBS beg to differ: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/2/23101/4268/952/618411

MSM BIAS

stop lying about my record, Mr. Que

Don't know if anybody already mentioned this in the thread, but did she really equate Iran, North Korea and CUBA?

Well she equatored Akman, Kim Jong and the Castro Brothers, yes.

pronouncing Ahmed "Ackmed" is such a canonical orientalism

Pardon, the proper term is "Asian."